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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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Dontcallmescarface · 22/02/2026 12:42

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 12:39

Cars are needed in London. Buses don’t turn up, you have to wait another 12 minutes

I never know if people are taking the piss when they say things like this. Like a TV programme that said the night buses in London are 'only' every 30 minutes.

Meanwhile the rest of the country would kill for a bus every 12 minutes and are thinking 'what's a night bus'.

Cars are needed in London. Buses don’t turn up, you have to wait another 12 minutes. 😂It's been 12 years since the last bus went through this village.

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 12:39

Cars are needed in London. Buses don’t turn up, you have to wait another 12 minutes

I never know if people are taking the piss when they say things like this. Like a TV programme that said the night buses in London are 'only' every 30 minutes.

Meanwhile the rest of the country would kill for a bus every 12 minutes and are thinking 'what's a night bus'.

Fridgemanageress · 22/02/2026 11:32

ignatiusjreilly · 20/02/2026 10:32

Our London council won't issue parking permits to residents of new build flats, but arguably a car isn't really needed in London. It makes sense, and I wish they would limit the number of parking permits for terraced houses too. Some of our neighbours have 3 or 4. There just isn't room!

Cars are needed in London. Buses don’t turn up, you have to wait another 12 minutes.

bus usage in London is down, and Khan keeps cutting and stopping routes in London so we have to wait longer for crowded dirty smelly buses.

When looking for this house, no parking space was a deal breaker, and let’s be honest if we have to move out of London because getting around London gets harder we will go. Two of our three children have left London as they have been able to get a better work/life balance.

Flamingojune · 22/02/2026 11:26

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 11:22

Yes that's what I mean. There's one in the city a few miles from where I live but not in the town 2 miles away that I could cycle to if there was somewhere secure to leave a bike.

It's not an excuse @Flamingojune lots of people have bikes stolen so it's something people want to avoid.

And lots of people don't. Cars get stolen too

Flamingojune · 22/02/2026 11:24

Theunamedcat · 22/02/2026 11:20

Cheaper than public transport in my area and unlike the bus it runs from my road the bus is a good 20 minute walk away goes in the wrong direction and at the wrong time how exactly am I supposed to get to work for 8.30 when the first bus is 8.30? Its not like I dont use public transport im currently on the train is just had to drive to get to the station (zero buses on a Sunday) and even if there was a bus i would have to take two to get there ridiculous situation

I was referring to supermarket deliveries

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 11:22

Sofado · 22/02/2026 10:11

Communal bike storage units? There are two on my street alone. You rent a space in one from the council.

Yes that's what I mean. There's one in the city a few miles from where I live but not in the town 2 miles away that I could cycle to if there was somewhere secure to leave a bike.

It's not an excuse @Flamingojune lots of people have bikes stolen so it's something people want to avoid.

Theunamedcat · 22/02/2026 11:20

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 18:14

Is your car free to run?

Cheaper than public transport in my area and unlike the bus it runs from my road the bus is a good 20 minute walk away goes in the wrong direction and at the wrong time how exactly am I supposed to get to work for 8.30 when the first bus is 8.30? Its not like I dont use public transport im currently on the train is just had to drive to get to the station (zero buses on a Sunday) and even if there was a bus i would have to take two to get there ridiculous situation

BeverleyBrooks · 22/02/2026 11:16

Where I live, people parking on their own drives actually increases the parking issues. The houses are narrow Victorian so the front drive can only fit one car. So when someone tarmacs their front garden, and pays for a dropped kerb, it means the road space outside their house can no longer be used by anyone else. Some sections of the road are pretty much all dropped kerb. When they are not using their drive, nobody else can use that section of road for parking on.

The only way it increases overall parking space is if they have two cars and one is on the drive and one is in front of the drive. But I don’t see that very often.

The pavement ends up being mostly sloped which is harder to walk on, and I find it quite sad that loads of front gardens have been dug up and paved over, reducing biodiversity, increasing the pressure on drainage systems, and adding to the temperature during heatwaves.

I think the answers to reduce car use:
better public transport, better cycle parking for people who don’t have gardens (there’s a public cycle storage unit on most streets round here) and better cycling infrastructure.

Dolphinnoises · 22/02/2026 10:19

We have shit public transport, is the over-riding problem. I live in a village with one (late or unreasonably early) bus an hour, the last at 4.45. Of course all people with a job have their own cars. There are new housing developments planned with no proper parking. When questioned the developers say it will encourage people to use public transport. Of which there is none, but that’s not turn developer’s problem, and it meets national guidelines for getting cars off the road.

OonaStubbs · 22/02/2026 10:12

All on-street parking should be permit controlled with every space dedicated to a specific house. Non-car owners could sell their space back to the council who would then be able to lease them to any other resident of the street for a fee.

Sofado · 22/02/2026 10:11

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 08:58

Yes it can but for it to be viable it also needs to be safe and for there to be proper secure storage at the destination.

In many locations at least one of these doesn't apply.

And a person needs to be able to secure their bike securely at home, again not always possible.

Communal bike storage units? There are two on my street alone. You rent a space in one from the council.

Flamingojune · 22/02/2026 09:33

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 08:58

Yes it can but for it to be viable it also needs to be safe and for there to be proper secure storage at the destination.

In many locations at least one of these doesn't apply.

And a person needs to be able to secure their bike securely at home, again not always possible.

If you dont want to cycle, you will always find reasons not to, but bike storage is a very weak one given how many people keep their bikes outside.

Ereerenownow · 22/02/2026 09:28

suburburban · 21/02/2026 23:30

Yes this shouldn’t be allowed

No it shouldn't be allowed. He has 2 sons who will be driving soon and they have already said they will be getting a car and a work van each which they intend to park in or around our estate. Our lovely little area has become their personal industrial estate. They already encourage their mates to park their souped up cars near our homes as its deemed safe, so all day we are also plagued by their cars revving up and this awful deep rumbling when they are sitting letting their engines tick over. They are a nightmare and they don't give a shit.

Whyherewego · 22/02/2026 09:06

rainylake · 20/02/2026 10:36

Where I live the system is basically what you want. You can’t park on the street without a resident’s permit, and you can’t have more than 1 car registered per adult. So a house with 2 adults - maximum 2 cars. And a total cap per household of 3 cars however many adults live there.

This is the solution. Have permit parking and restrictions on the permits. People will definitely use drives then !

Bjorkdidit · 22/02/2026 08:58

Flamingojune · 20/02/2026 22:48

Cycling can be the fastest way

Yes it can but for it to be viable it also needs to be safe and for there to be proper secure storage at the destination.

In many locations at least one of these doesn't apply.

And a person needs to be able to secure their bike securely at home, again not always possible.

Sofado · 22/02/2026 08:48

What is annoying is that councils are allowing planning permission for housing developments with very little off street parking per household.

That seems ok to me. And there should be residents parking for the street.

PinkElephants356 · 22/02/2026 07:46

What is annoying is that councils are allowing planning permission for housing developments with very little off street parking per household.

We lived on a new build street before and the parking was a nightmare. Several times our bins weren’t collected because cars were blocking access for the refuse vehicle. One time I phoned the council to ask them to come back later to collect the bins, they initially refused but I listed various new estates where they have allowed planning where there is inadequate parking and thus are creating this car littering problem and they came later to collect the bins.

Now we live on an older street with driveways but you still have people with lots of cars because of grown up children. There are houses that have recently converted garages but have extra cars parked on the road, which seems illogical to me.

MikeRafone · 22/02/2026 06:21

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:25

That's a strawman. I have not said that suggesting car ownership can be a hassle is being an activist. I agree that car ownership can be a hassle. Most people will - yet the vast majority of households still prefer ownership with its hassles to the hassles they have without a car of their own.

If you want to develop solutions that stand a chance of actually working, you need to engage with what is being said, not take things out of context so you can pretend your solution will work.

It was you with the strawman argument, not me 🤣
Calling the other poster an activist as they suggested car ownership a hassle

I was pointing out car ownership is a hassle

then you admit you agree 🤦‍♀️

User3857377 · 22/02/2026 00:31

I agree with you, but I have never had a house with a drive 😂. My house is on a very narrow road of Victorian terraces, pavement parking on both sides necessary, Billy big balls lives opposite us and sells used cars so often has several parked around, and next door to him is an HMO, which TBF, I think only has one car owner currently. My youngests school is surrounded by 1960's houses with drives, lots of pensioners who deliberately park their cars and leave them outside the house at school pick up time because they are just incensed about the school traffic. One guy always comes out and asks me to move so he can get into his boot if I park close to his, to avoid his drive. Once he's got his pretend item out the boot I drive it back close. I think a good system would be one parking permit per person who pays council tax.

OTOH, the shops close to my house that I drive past on the way home, never have parking spaces outside. The nearby roads are all permit passes only because it's next to a football stadium. This means I very rarely use these local shops and businesses. If it didn't have permit parking at all times, it would help local businesses. So I do think my biggest annoyance is people not using their drive.

fetchacloth · 22/02/2026 00:16

I live about a mile away from a town centre with a large town square which contains a shopping precinct and some coffee bars etc.
The council has just passed planning permission to redevelop the square which will remove some of the shops and build approximately 1600 high rise apartments in their place. There will be no parking provision for these apartments, indeed a nearby multi storey car park is being demolished to make room for these new buildings.
The parking in the town is very restricted, double yellow lines everywhere together with other payable car parks around the town centre , so I'm left wondering where these people think they are going to park their vehicles really. People aren't going to move into the middle of an affluent town centre with no allocated parking provision surely. Time will tell but I predict chaos.

ladyinka · 22/02/2026 00:11

Completely agree with you. But a lot of these issues can be resolved by a properly working, reliable & efficient public transport. This would remove the ‘need’ to own multiple cars in the first place.

This exists in most of developed European countries but unfortunately not in the UK. As it currently stands, our bus services are non-existent (bar a few largest cities), train services are prohibitively expensive and urban cycling routes insufficient.

Long time ago I lived in Switzerland and relied on ‘general abonente’ to get around like most people there. It’s essentially an annual season ticket covering ALL public transport across the ENTIRE country, including busses, trains, trams, mountain funiculars and boats crossing their lakes - pretty much from Davos to Geneva. The cost was a fraction of the prize I now have to spend on my 35mile commute from Kent to London… that’s absolutely bonkers!

TiggersTheOnlyOne · 21/02/2026 23:56

My estate was built just after the war when very few houses had cars. There is nowhere near enough parking for the numbr of cars. People park on the grass verges and double park and it makes the estate look a mess but there is no other option. It doesn’t help when people have vans which take up additional space along side cars. People get so possessive over the bit of road by their house and have been known to smear windscreens with grease to stop people parking there. I live on a corner as the road in front of my house is a traffic calming chicane and the road to the side it too narrow to park on as it would stop emergency service vehicles being able to get through and I am repeatedly shouted at for parking in front of other people’s houses but there is no choice. Something needs to be done but I don’t know what.

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:45

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 18:57

So owning a car is diverse now?

Is your reading comprehension truly that shit or is this just a desperate attempt to try and pretend I've said something ridiculous because you haven't got a relevant response?

In any case - No. That's not what I said.

PickAChew · 21/02/2026 23:41

Winewolfhywls · 20/02/2026 10:35

In the past people kept cars inside garages too, making it easier to store two cars. Many people have now converted garages into rooms, gyms, or downstairs bathrooms.

In our street there are loads of people who just don't park on their empty drives, it's infuriating

Our house has a garage in the back garden but the driveway was obviously built in the 60s so you might get a vintage mini in it. We might be able to get our car up to it if we made our house 2' narrower 😂

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:35

BasilPersil · 21/02/2026 20:11

Concreting over front gardens is also awful for urban flood management.

True, but you don't have to concrete. There are porous drive way materials. I know some councils push this quite heavily and make it harder to put in a non-porous one.

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