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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:35

Ok we are one of those annoying families - apologies in advance ! We have on average 4 cars at our property and a 2 car driveway. We live fairly rural although would be classed as a town to people local to the area, live on 70s style housing estate.

The BIG town is 25 miles away (secondary school, hospital (with a&e) multiple supermarkets etc. Everywhere inbetween is village/small town (eg primary school, maybe a co-op) the largest supermarket supports about 10 villages and would be a 20 min average drive for those villages. Public transport is terrible it takes 1.15 mins (going through every village) to get to the BIG town and the first bus is 7:25am. Last bus LEAVES the big town at 4:15pm. Nearest train station is at the BiG town so train isn’t an option. So naturally we all require cars and naturally everyone learns to drive when their 17 as public transport is just terrible. So we all need a car for work, teenager needs a car for her apprenticeship, her boyfriend again has a car and requires one for his apprenticeship and whilst doesn’t live with us is often there. I cannot feasibly see how we could reduce our car usage sharing isn’t an option due to different working hours and locations.

Surely a good proportion of the UK is in this boat. I think if you have always been suburban or cities its very difficult to guage how poor public transport is out of these areas.

My teenager isn’t going to be moving out anytime soon and it will only get worse when my younger two start to drive.

CloakedInGucci · 20/02/2026 11:34

Mapletree1985 · 20/02/2026 11:28

Most people could easily get rid of their car and replace it with an electric bike for daily use. They could then hire a car when they actually need one for a long journey.

Can I get two kids on the electric bike? Plus my husband if we go out on the weekend?

MyOpalCat · 20/02/2026 11:34

A lot of the parking issues down our 1950s estate street are from people who don't live down the street - they live on duel carriage way road with no drives or are poping to shops which have some parking at but clearly not enough.

We've also had people be funny as we don't drive but previous onwers converted front garden to a drive way - they often assume cars on street must be ours or twice had someone who moved to a house with no drive demand to park on ours with vauge offer of payment. IL have same down the victorian terrace street - non drivers but people assume cars out front must be theris - lights left on or parking to far over pavement - FIl has to explain car could be anyone down long street or someone streets away or poping to shops but not his car.

My Dmum rural 70s estate has long drives and garages - half the street parks on the road and always have no idea why - but parking gotten very bad since church was allowed to build a new bigger hall with no parking - all the nearby streets get blocked up with cars any time any event is held at the new hall - even stops busses getting down the street.

Public transport costs keep going up and up and house prices near jobs tend to be more - I think restricting car ownership would just make things even harder for many and not solve as many issues as expected - and our household doesn't drive or own even one car.

Glaspeated · 20/02/2026 11:34

Bottom line is that there are far too many cars and were parking on streets and driveways that weren’t meant for this volume of vehicles and/or multiple car owners at the same address.

I live on a street of 1930s semis. All of them have driveways for at least one vehicle. However, some households have three cars and a van, so they spill onto the streets, or front gardens are concreted over. Luckily it’s a conservation area, so the latter is pretty limited but it totally ruins the street scape in some areas.

A friend lives on a new build estate with even less parking than us - they’ve built the houses in such way that discourages on street parking but people do it anyway, and it looks horrendous.

Its difficult to know what the solution is.

Lifestooshort71 · 20/02/2026 11:34

We could advocate for smaller cars for city dwellers?

littlemousebigcheese · 20/02/2026 11:33

I feel guilty for this because we have two adults but four cars. We park mostly on the drive, sometimes in the garage but my husband currently has his main car parked in a visitor bay which I don’t think is fair as we’re contributing to extra cars having to park on the road. We live in a quiet cul de sac and have a big drive so usually we are parked there and don’t need extra space. I don’t know what solution long term is tbh as I’ve noticed a huge increase in cars parked on the side of the road, some days it takes ages to drive anywhere as I’m having to weave in and out of parked cars and traffic has increased massively.

ManyATrueWord · 20/02/2026 11:32

Making it so you can only park where you own property will definitely benefit only the wealthy.

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 11:31

TheKittenswithMittens · 20/02/2026 10:52

There are always threads here about cost of living debt etc. Nobody suggests get rid of the car. It must cost at least 300 quid a month to own a car, and that's before you put petrol in it.

I think you need to show your numbers!!!

I bought my car 8 years ago for 5k.

Im not getting rid of my car and when that one's done I'll get a replacement.

StrawberrySquash · 20/02/2026 11:30

It's partly a result of societal changes. Yes, there are too many cars on the road, and yes people sometimes drive them when they could use public transport. But we have two car households because women work and even in places with public transport, often getting to work a dropping kids off only works time-wise with a car.

Similarly kids living at home for longer means more adults in the house means more cars.

Someone said are cars too cheap - maybe? But do we want to restrict them only to the rich? Huge numbers of less well off people would just have their life not function without their car. And if we want less car use then we have to build the infrastructure to support it. I'm probably 15 minute cities in that services near me; great. But what are we doing to enable that? Instead we send kids to schools further and further away and then build bus gates.

Signed a London, non car owner.

UnhappyHobbit · 20/02/2026 11:30

My next door neighbour has 4 cars. We have a driveway that forms part of a private carpark area. They were forever trying to park all 4 cars obstructing our access in and out. I had to involve the management company to resolve the issue and now they park on the road begrudgingly.
I agree parking is an issue and if you had to pay for on street parking for example, would it encourage people to reduce their cars or would it cause further issues for people like me who gets stuck and obstructed with little anyone can really do as it’s “private property”

waterbobble · 20/02/2026 11:29

the rise of cars as a "hobby

This is outdated, you need storage for this, younger generations don’t tend to have it!

Lifestooshort71 · 20/02/2026 11:29

Nofeckingway · 20/02/2026 10:36

It's universal. Any city with streets built with terraced properties, semi detached , were all built before car ownership was common . And certainly before multiple car households existed. To limit the amount of cars a family can have would be unrealistic and impossible to monitor .
Maybe the model where there used to be lockup garages on the grounds of flats should come back .
Otherwise when deciding to live in a street with only off street parking facilities you need to factor in this issue.

We have lock-up garages for our block of flats but, built in the 60s, unless you have an original mini or similar, you can't get a car parked in them.

Mapletree1985 · 20/02/2026 11:28

Most people could easily get rid of their car and replace it with an electric bike for daily use. They could then hire a car when they actually need one for a long journey.

waterbobble · 20/02/2026 11:28

Generally,
you cannot legally purchase and register a standard car in Japan without proving you have a dedicated off-street parking space,

Isn’t this just anything that disadvantages young people & young families though? Off street parking tends to come with a bigger house and tends to be more expensive.

Why should 2 younger people living in a flat and both driving for work have to pay more vs an older retired couple who drive for leisure?

Goldfsh · 20/02/2026 11:27

Lifestyles have changed a lot too. Our garage was built in the 1960s but is v small for a modern car - and now just holds our recycling bins and recycling! I'd rather put the bins in the garage and the car on the road than the other way around.

SpringsOnTheWay · 20/02/2026 11:27

the rise of cars as a "hobby"

this has actually declined over the years. Interest in cars has subsided and fewer 17 year olds are learning or have an interest in learning. Classic car ownership is starting to subside as well. With having somewhere to keep them being a driver of that.

Baggingarea · 20/02/2026 11:27

I live in a town very not equipped for today's world - narrow streets and it's all street parking. Huge tailbacks if there's any roadworks.

Meanwhile a short bus ride into town is hampered because they have ONE bus an hour. Sometimes they dont show up or are too full. In a busy residential area full of families.

I feel like there should be some sort of responsibility for there to be car free transport if parking is such an issue. But as op said, these types of changes are so unpopular.

And before anyone tells me I should walk... I can't!

nOlives · 20/02/2026 11:25

The joke is those advocating for, and giving planning permission for housing without parking. It is not a funny joke.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 20/02/2026 11:23

Try living in a village with one bus per hour, nothing after 18.00 & no service on Sundays & BHs.
And also cancelled services if the driver is sick.

MsGreying · 20/02/2026 11:19

A house on my street (A mid terrace with no drive, but a garage accessible from the back, and additional parking as the previous owners paved the back so it could be used as such)
have 3 taxi cars parked up on and off all day. Which is why they're never going to put a car away as it's behind a gate and a bit of a PITA.

So they take up more room on the front, which means when I go to drop anything off at this house I have to park elsewhere and walk further. Fine if I'm not carrying too much shopping but a proper PITA.

The report comes after a government poll suggested 76% of people think that for the sake of the environment, everyone should reduce their driving. BBC Article
I imagine everyone thinks it should be someone else who stops driving.
I don't want to order a taxi to fetch me to take shopping to relatives houses and then mine. What should I do? Take two journeys to take shopping separately?

And then the roads would just be filled with taxis parked up waiting for them to be booked....

If we're serious about reducing the number of car journeys we take, we have to have a fully functioning healthy public transport system to start and then accept that many journeys will be done in a car. Maybe just not our car.

Aerial view of housing estate

New UK housing 'dominated by roads'

Roads are dominating new housing developments, a report says, despite more people wanting to drive less.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51179688

Shittyyear2025 · 20/02/2026 11:19

Yanbu op.

My house has 4 cars (one a classic that sits on the drive undercover most of the year) but I have a drive that fits all 4. We tend to have one on the street usually, but the other two just get shuffled about when the other needs to get out.

In my small street we have a 2-car-driveway house that has a 3rd, GIANT long wheel base van that parks mostly on the drive with their car out front. We have a 3 car household with only space for 1 car on the drive, a 3 car household with 2 driveway spaces yet ALWAYS parks in the turning circle.

A friend has just moved into a new build estate. Barely enough space on the drive for one car, few garages, it's already mental with both adults usually having cars. These are mostly young families, god knows what chaos there will be in 10 years when their kids start driving.

I don't know what the solution is.

BerryTwister · 20/02/2026 11:18

It’s not just the number of cars, it’s the size of the cars too. These days, a family of 4, who would quite happily fit in a standard Ford Focus 10 years ago, now need a vehicle the size of a tank for their weekly trip to Sainsbury’s. It blows my mind how normal people, with normal numbers of kids/animals, who don’t live on farms and just do short city journeys, can’t cope with a normal car.

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:17

Japan is a similar island with large population - so they came up with this

Generally,
you cannot legally purchase and register a standard car in Japan without proving you have a dedicated off-street parking space, known as a shakoshōmei(garage certificate). This law (since 1962) requires proof that a parking spot exists within 2 km of your residence.
Here are the key details regarding this requirement:

  • The Law: A "Proof of Parking Space Certificate" (Shakoshōmei) is mandatory to register the car in your name.
  • Location Constraints: The parking space must be within 2 kilometers of your residence.
  • Size Restrictions: The vehicle must fit perfectly within the designated parking space.
  • Small Cars (Kei Cars): In some rural areas, small kei cars (yellow license plates) may not require a shakoshōmei at the time of purchase, but you must still report the parking location to the police afterward.
  • Exceptions: You cannot easily purchase or drive a car without this documentation, as dealers will not deliver plates without it.

Before you continue to Google Search

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ContentedAlpaca · 20/02/2026 11:15

HessianSack · 20/02/2026 10:56

Yes, I often wonder why more people don’t park in their driveways! Often so they don’t block each other in I think but that comes down to laziness. Or they don’t have the driving skills, as you say. But I don’t think the government will ever implement the measures you suggest, unfortunately.

We're in a 20mph street that people fly down at excess speed. This is a factor for me in not driving on or reversing on to my drive.

There are some very antisocial people and I don't have the energy after a long day to either deal with someone slamming into my car or getting cross with me because I've slowed them up by a few seconds. That sort of altercation outside my own home would make me feel quite vulnerable.

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