AIBU to chuckle at the thought that Epstein was nothing but a blackmailer .......

He wasn't just a blackmailer, he sexually abused vulnerable women, including ones underage. I wouldn't be surprised if the cameras were there for his own gratification more than blackmail.

Epstein was a very rich crook (read up on his career) who got lucky and used his power to abuse women and girls. Then used rich & famous people to cover his tracks the same way Saville used charities. Some caught onto what he was & backed off, cutting ties. Andrew was way too thick & entitled to read the room & indulged in abusing women thinking Epstein would protect him & was untouchable.

The arrogance of men is just breathtaking…

There is absolutely nothing remotely amusing about Epstein and chuckling about such an evil man is the epitome of poor taste.

Based on what?

I can’t help thinking that the sentiment of this thread has been derailed by the word “chuckle”

I am not reading about events and literally having a giggle, or doing a big belly laugh, or chortling, or snorting, or silently sniggering and shaking my shoulders.

But I do think the Epstein blackmail angle is a fascinating twist and see the irony / satisfaction in how this may bring down some of the abusers now. And as they are brought to justice (hopefully) I expect to feel “pleased”.

I think what sits uncomfortable for me is the fact these men were abusers. So chuckling about them getting their comeuppance feels wrong.

Let's say, instead of being abusers, they instead were conned by Epstein or financially fucked over by him, then I could understand chuckling about them panicking and getting thier comeuppance. I would probably join in.

There is just something about the fact that women and girls were seriously abused and hurt, makes this difficult to chuckle or find it funny.

What men? Only amw that I can see

@plentyofsunshineI don’t think these men have any morals or scruples and I don’t think they will ever care about the victims.

But they care about power and reputation and influence- and if that is eroded and they are publicly shamed as a result of the Epstein files it will be very pleasing to watch.

What I'm finding fascinating and repellent is the almost sexual hold he seemed to have over heterosexual men. All these gushing emails declaring their love and devotion. It's very very odd.

It's like those Mob films you see where the lesser mobsters are falling over themselves to be seen as the most devoted, the most sycophantic to the psycho chief mobster, on a bigger scale. Am I thinking of the "funny guy" scene from Goodfellas?

Agreed!

If it was just blackmail, then why are the files mostly redacted and not released in full?

Horrible take this thread.

No there’s nothing remotely amusing about any of this.

Can't find anything to chuckle about it i'm honest.

I think the ridiculous debate is coming from posters saying that any comments about the men are misguided because all the focus should be on the victims.

Obviously the victims are at the heart of this.

But what on earth is wrong with speculating about how much the abusers must be panicking now, and enjoying the prospect of them finally starting to get their comeuppance?

My mate Paul says…

I think it's possible to find an irony in evil men getting their comeuppance while simultaenously being horrified at their crimes and wishing justice for their survivors.

Otherwise, why do we laugh at The Producers? Those Hitler Downfall Youtube video spoofs? The Death of Stalin?

It doesn't mean dismissing their crimes. It's humilating them, which those evil men would really hate. Crushing their egos.

The photos from the files ? Fbi and department of justice released them.

Well certainly the ones that live in the USA won't be feeling any fear at all. They can be pretty certain they will never be prosecuted and probably pretty secure that their names won't even be revealed.

Guilt and remorse doesn't feature in the lives of the super rich.

We are supposed to be focusing on the victims. But yet you and OP are deflecting this focusing on to a ridiculous debate about how the perpetrators are feeling.

I am reminded of G Greer's line - women have no idea how much men hate them.

It's like E gifted us a peak behind the curtain. Why is it those men never once stopped to think what they were doing? It's so awful! They are so awful.

I kinda get what op is getting at and it would be interesting to hear from an expert in male behaviour on what on earth was going on in their heads.

If I've read your post correctly, I think what you're saying is: you're chuckling about the men, like AMW, who thought they were important, brilliant men, but we're actually being hoodwinked by Epstein.
I.e. these men are, in reality, stupid, gullible idiots who were scammed

Is that what you mean?

If so, no it's not funny or something to chuckle about.
The real victims are the women and girls and what these men did to them is not funny.

FGS the op isn’t making light of the situation in general.

I agree with you OP.

How gratifying it is to see that these vile men who thought they were part of some elite club and could do anything ……. were actually just part of Epstein’s bigger plan.

I don’t know if these sort of people will ever feel guilt or remorse but I hope they are feeling fear right now, and embarrassment that they were so stupid as to trust Epstein.

I get what you mean
they may have been better of not killing him then most likely none of this would have got out
they probably thought that by him being dead they were all safe

he is basically fucking all of them from beyond the grave

that you could even find levity in this situation.....😩 🤦