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To think that it IS inconsistent to judge men who buy sex but not women who sell it (excluding women who are trafficked/traumatised/acting from financial necessity)?

244 replies

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 02:22

The thread today where the OP claimed to have been an escort had quite a few posters saying that they don't judge women who sell sex, only men who buy it.

Now, I think that most women selling sex are trafficked and/or doing so from financial necessity and/or suffering from sexual trauma.

So I don't judge them. But I do judge the minority of women, who DO exist, who sell sex when they have other viable options, are financially OK, often educated etc. Ditto men. They are all contributing willingly to an industry which devalues sex, intimacy and the human body.

It does seem inconsistent to exempt women (and men) who sell sex completely from judgement. Denying that women can willingly prop up harmful industries isn't feminist.

AIBU?

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Amiacoolorwarmcolour · 20/02/2026 04:40

The vast majority of prostituted women have been raped as children.
I cannot remember the study but I think it was over 95% had been victims of SA.
So no, I blame the men.

stickydough · 20/02/2026 04:35

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:13

I see what you mean, but otoh Bonnie Blue seems to be doing exactly what she wants. Do you thunk she's doing it out of 'sexual vulnerability '?

I do agree partly re women's vulnerability but otoh that doesn't mean they have no choice ever. Clearly Bonnie Blue does.

Men being dogs doesn't force Bonnie Blue & her ilk to sell sex, does it? This feels almost...infantilising? I know you don't mean it that way & I agree re vulnerability but otoh women like Bonnie Blue have agency, they aren't being forced to sell sex to satisfy gross men. (Of course that is not the majority, as I've said)

I do think Bonnie Blue is ‘doing it out of sexual vulnerability’, yes. I’d be amazed if she had no history of sexual or emotional trauma.

Of course she has a choice, but there’s choice and there’s choice. Adults make all kinds of dysfunctional choices due to the difficulties they have experienced in their life. I don’t believe any secure, emotionally healthy woman sells sex and we shouldn’t as a society enable this form of self harm and dress it up as choice. Just like we shouldn’t dress up making the choice due to being poor.

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:31

Doingtheboxerbeat · 20/02/2026 03:37

It's not what you want to hear, but something about it feels unequal but I can't articulate why.
It's like with that Bonnie Blue nonsense, I couldn't help but judge the men who participated in it just a little 🤏more than I judged her - I'm sorry, it's just the way I feel.

I see what you mean...I certainly instinctively judge someone buying sex more, even though I don't think choosing to sell is good either (though I know most don't have a choice).

Otoh how would you feel if Bonnie Blue were a man? Would you feel different? That they were less vulnerable? I suppose women's physical vulnerability is an angle here too.

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Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:25

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 04:17

Is this thread about the men who willingly choose to buy sex? Or the victims who provide it because they need to make money?

You think both should be judged equally @Carla786? Hmm You’re wrong!

MOST women who sell sex do NOT have a choice.

I am NOT disputing that.

But a minority are different.

That post I quoted : 'I have no regrets - I travelled the world when young, own my house and have funded further studies for my current career. So it has been life changing in many ways'

  • that doesn't sound like someone providing it because they have to make money. It sounds like someone at uni making a decision to do that to improve their future life. The majority of people who want to do further studies, travel etc do not sell sex- there IS a choice.
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Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:22

Disturbia81 · 20/02/2026 03:42

This.
If men didn’t objectify women as they do, or weren’t sexual dogs, women wouldn’t sell it. Men and women will never been equal in terms of sexual vulnerability.

It's notable that there's a long and sad history of (some) gay men exploiting men selling sex. There's a much smaller amount of women who have paid for sex from men, or lesbians who've paid for sex from women, though all those things have & do exist to some extent.

Maybe it's not only about men objectifying women due to misogyny (although that is a big part of it), but male sexuality tending to be more objectifying no matter who it's directed at?

Either way it's very sad...

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TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 04:17

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:09

I know that! Many, maybe most, men who sell sex are trafficked too, or do it out of poverty. I'm not talking about the majority.

I'll link to the thread I meant. If you read the OP's post, she seems to be an example of someone who freely chose it, and doesn't seem bothered by the damage. I have come across other examples. Eg. She says she knew many of the clients were married and doesn't seem very bothered by that.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5492966-to-tell-friend-her-new-partner-was-a-former-client-of-mine?page=2&reply=150628349

Is this thread about the men who willingly choose to buy sex? Or the victims who provide it because they need to make money?

You think both should be judged equally @Carla786? Hmm You’re wrong!

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:15

Crushed23 · 20/02/2026 04:10

So you’re asking is the woman who willingly becomes a sex worker to pay university fees, fund holidays and buy designer clothes (that’s the impression I got from that poster) morally equivalent to the man who pays for sex?

Interesting question, never really thought about it. 🧐

I don't think morally equivalent...this might be me being inconsistent but I think buying someone's sexual services (whatever the sexes involved) is worse intrinsically, but it's hard to articulate..

Otoh I think choosing to sell sex to get luxuries is a bad & harmful decision for the reasons I outlined in OP...

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Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:13

Disturbia81 · 20/02/2026 03:42

This.
If men didn’t objectify women as they do, or weren’t sexual dogs, women wouldn’t sell it. Men and women will never been equal in terms of sexual vulnerability.

I see what you mean, but otoh Bonnie Blue seems to be doing exactly what she wants. Do you thunk she's doing it out of 'sexual vulnerability '?

I do agree partly re women's vulnerability but otoh that doesn't mean they have no choice ever. Clearly Bonnie Blue does.

Men being dogs doesn't force Bonnie Blue & her ilk to sell sex, does it? This feels almost...infantilising? I know you don't mean it that way & I agree re vulnerability but otoh women like Bonnie Blue have agency, they aren't being forced to sell sex to satisfy gross men. (Of course that is not the majority, as I've said)

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Crushed23 · 20/02/2026 04:10

So you’re asking is the woman who willingly becomes a sex worker to pay university fees, fund holidays and buy designer clothes (that’s the impression I got from that poster) morally equivalent to the man who pays for sex?

Interesting question, never really thought about it. 🧐

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:09

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 03:53

Every man who buys sex makes that choice.
Most women and girls "providing" sexual services to men, don't have a choice.SadAngry

I know that! Many, maybe most, men who sell sex are trafficked too, or do it out of poverty. I'm not talking about the majority.

I'll link to the thread I meant. If you read the OP's post, she seems to be an example of someone who freely chose it, and doesn't seem bothered by the damage. I have come across other examples. Eg. She says she knew many of the clients were married and doesn't seem very bothered by that.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5492966-to-tell-friend-her-new-partner-was-a-former-client-of-mine?page=2&reply=150628349

Page 2 | To tell friend her new partner was a former client of mine? | Mumsnet

Name changed for obvious reasons. I previously worked as an escort, something I started during Uni and continued part time until two years ago when I...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5492966-to-tell-friend-her-new-partner-was-a-former-client-of-mine?page=2&reply=150628349

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Carla786 · 20/02/2026 04:05

SocksAndTheCity · 20/02/2026 03:45

Yes, please do. Or do you think that other people's reasons for having sex should all be the same as yours, and also that women should not be allowed to (legally) earn a living in any way they choose?

What other jobs should other women be prohibited from doing just because you disapprove of them and would not do them yourself?

I don't approve of men choosing to sell sex either.

I don't think women or men should be banned from selling it though, I support the Nordic Model.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 03:53

Every man who buys sex makes that choice.
Most women and girls "providing" sexual services to men, don't have a choice.SadAngry

SocksAndTheCity · 20/02/2026 03:45

Random321 · 20/02/2026 03:37

Can you explain what you mean about devaluing sex or moreso why sex should be valued so highly? Sex can just be sex.

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Yes, please do. Or do you think that other people's reasons for having sex should all be the same as yours, and also that women should not be allowed to (legally) earn a living in any way they choose?

What other jobs should other women be prohibited from doing just because you disapprove of them and would not do them yourself?

Disturbia81 · 20/02/2026 03:42

Doingtheboxerbeat · 20/02/2026 03:37

It's not what you want to hear, but something about it feels unequal but I can't articulate why.
It's like with that Bonnie Blue nonsense, I couldn't help but judge the men who participated in it just a little 🤏more than I judged her - I'm sorry, it's just the way I feel.

This.
If men didn’t objectify women as they do, or weren’t sexual dogs, women wouldn’t sell it. Men and women will never been equal in terms of sexual vulnerability.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/02/2026 03:42

Pallisers · 20/02/2026 02:25

Well if you exclude women who are trafficked, traumatised, or doing it out of financial necessity there will be few enough women left to judge.

This.^^

YABU @Carla786.
Really, really Unreasonable.Hmm

Random321 · 20/02/2026 03:37

Can you explain what you mean about devaluing sex or moreso why sex should be valued so highly? Sex can just be sex.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 20/02/2026 03:37

It's not what you want to hear, but something about it feels unequal but I can't articulate why.
It's like with that Bonnie Blue nonsense, I couldn't help but judge the men who participated in it just a little 🤏more than I judged her - I'm sorry, it's just the way I feel.

Carla786 · 20/02/2026 02:39

Pallisers · 20/02/2026 02:25

Well if you exclude women who are trafficked, traumatised, or doing it out of financial necessity there will be few enough women left to judge.

True. But they do exist.

To give that thread as an example, the OP said she had been a Domme (which I think often tends to not involve much physical contact). She said she used it to fund travel, a house & a second degree. It didn't sound like she had to do it out of poverty or coercion.
Several pps defended her choice by saying no woman in the sex industry really chooses it and so they can't be blamed for participating in the system, and that the men are bad so they're entitled to take their money.

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Pallisers · 20/02/2026 02:25

Well if you exclude women who are trafficked, traumatised, or doing it out of financial necessity there will be few enough women left to judge.