Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

i simply don’t care. What about the victims? There will be countless others he raped not just Virginia Guiffre. He was complicit in a paedofile sex ring - he deserves everything coming his way.

Well, I thought we were supposed to have moved on from the very worst days of trial by media sensationalism. I thought the BBC and co were slow mindful of people’s mental health yet here they are practically baying for him to top himself, saying what’s left for him while showing that ghastly pic of him? Honestly, they are vilifying him more than they did mass murderer Axel Rudakubana. No mention of not prejudicing upcoming trials either. I think the whole country has lost its mind this week.

Hmmmm….no.

It raises a lot of questions about entitlement, the status of the royal family and abuse of privilege.

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I second that.

The ball looks like a boob. Andrew is rolling a ball that looks like a boob to a toddler. Whoever the child is, it’s completely inappropriate. What kind of person gives a ball like that to a toddler?

I have to say, I find the mental leaps being made here to deflect and minimise the situation staggering.

I don’t feel sorry for him as such.

I do agree with your point that he’s had to wait a hell of a long time to be told no in his life, and that must be quite the come down.

The whole thing makes me think a hell of a lot less of the late Queen. She spoiled him until the very end.

It raises a lot of questions about entitlement, the status of the royal family and abuse of privilege.

He was let away with awful awful behaviour for years - greedy, grabby, entitled and that’s before you get onto the darker stuff.

And that stuff about money and dodgy dealings was in the papers years ago, and nobody did anything.

His daughters should not have titles. They should disappear from public life as should his ex although she could probably be charged too.

It’s just awful.

Im also surprised that William was seen with him publicly as recently as 2023. I thought William was going to be the clean future of the monarchy.

I am not speculating anything but others are claiming these pictures show Andrew giving his nephew James a ballon or whatever. The photo as such are uncomfortable, not something I'd like stored on my hard drive and not best pleased to have clicd on it at all.

However it loo highly unlikely that Andrew is an innocent lamb🐑
Time will tell.

What... I feel sorry for poor Virginia Giuffre. Fuck Andrew. He should be locked up.

Yea it could be perfectly innocent

This is pure speculation, unless you were there. I'm not defending him but the doj and the media seem to be absolutely obsessed and very selective on what the print

Are you saying Andrew MBW gave his nephew this adult boob toy to play with? That's even more creepy.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/2011-show-then-duke-york-1060668335.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

Well it does look like a breast, and fuck knows what that picture is in the background. Looks like an adult with a child in underwear, dunno, can't quite make it out (or may be perfectly innocent).

I just had a passing thought, it’s possible that Andrew MBW, frustrated by his demotion and the loss of titles and income, may have approached Trump indirectly, potentially signalling that he possessed information about Trump and Epstein. This, in turn, could have prompted Trump to provide information regarding A MBW to the British authorities.

No, I have only read what has been reported in the main UK news sites.The men whose vile comments I have read are disgusting, despicable, loathsome, whatever you want to say about them. But I’m not clear - are you saying Andrew has been proven to have been involved in the loathsome conversations? I knew he was involved in sex with a 17-year-old, and begging for money, and now it seems he was giving away state secrets. As you seem to be an expert, is there something else from or about Andrew revealed in the files?

No.

Probably a good thing, take a step back.

Thank you so much. It’s been a long road.

Yes, we want all these abusers to face justice. I thought Trump’s response was very telling. No empathy towards the victims and he really did sound like he was gloating about Andrew’s arrest.

because the police are being forced into a trial because the general public won’t accept anything else

The police don’t decide whether to charge or not.

Those aren’t felt butterflies. They’re the child’s hands.

Here are the pictures

First is of the ball with what looks like felt butterflies stuck to it

2nd is what looks like the ball having been rolled back to Andrew but is now what looks like a balloon

Who bought the ball, who manufactured it, they are widely available to buy online.

It doesn’t actually say the photo was taken in 2011.

It says about 2011 so could be 2009. This boy does look like Edwards DS when he was about the age of the child in the photo

If you look at all the pictures you can see the ball has felt stuck to it in one picture then there is a picture that is made to look like it is being rolled back to Andrew but the ball is no longer there and it changes to a balloon.

I think the whole article is rubbish and has taken what was an innocent set of pictures and altered them to fit the narrative.

No.

Agreed. I have always been supportive of the royal family, especially the Walses and especially Catherine, princess of Wales.

However, while I don't think the monarchy will be dismantled any time soon or ever, it's all leaving a bad impression now. Murky system enabling abuse and exploitation. High lack of transparency and accountability. I'm no longer keen.

I've never been keen on the Sussexes but they must be thanking their lucky stars not to be associated with any of this.