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Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

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busymomtoone · 19/02/2026 21:55

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

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scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:46

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:45

I expect it was because he had sex with her when she was 17. I’ve already said I knew that. What has it got to do with my last post, to which you were replying?

Sorry what - why are you picking me out on here? I don't appreciate it

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:45

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 09:00

Why was that woman paid off?

I expect it was because he had sex with her when she was 17. I’ve already said I knew that. What has it got to do with my last post, to which you were replying?

AInightingale · 21/02/2026 14:56

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2026 10:07

This is quite the move. When was the last time this happened?

Happened in 1936 when Edward VIII abdicated, in case he and Wallis had children - they would have had a claim to the throne ahead of the late Queen, presumably.
The only other one I can think of is the 'Old Pretender' who was James II's son - James being deposed and his descendants denied succession rights because the Protestant monarchs William and Mary took over at that point. Which is why the UK ended up with a line of German kings.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2026 14:47

WineBeforeWhine · 20/02/2026 21:27

I don’t feel sorry for him, but I do think people ought to lay off the bullying because we don’t want an unhappy outcome. You can only push someone so far.

Who the fuck is bullying him? Reports from his police protection team make it very clear that Andrew was an entitled bully to anyone that he felt was beneath him. No-one complained to the Queen as they knew that he was her favourite and she wouldn't care about his horrible behaviour.

Obviously that pales into insignificance in light of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged abuse of trafficked girls and the sharing of classified and confidential information with Epstein which sounds like treason to me.

Discoated · 21/02/2026 14:38

BeanQuisine · 21/02/2026 11:41

He would have cheered up once he got home and stuffed himself with birthday cake and gin.

"Those coppers think they're better than me," he would have mumbled, shovelling in another slice, "but they have to shine their own shoes!"

"Shine their own fucking shoes, can you imagine?" And he would have sprayed cake everywhere while bursting into weird laughter, and raising his middle finger at an imaginary "copper".

🤔😆

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2026 14:36

HawkinsLabsColdwarEra · 20/02/2026 14:32

fair points, but it would certainly be lots less $$ from tourism etc overall , that is indisputable

France gets more tourists to their royal palaces and they beheaded their Royal Family during the French revolution. It's a myth that the Royal Family brings in more tourist revenue.

AcquadiP · 21/02/2026 14:32

No. The image of him leaving the police station is of a man in deep shock because he has spent his entire spoilt, arrogant, entitled life believing he was untouchable.

ThatCyanCat · 21/02/2026 14:05

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:17

If they cut Andrew off presumably the ones below him go as well?

I don't think it necessarily would remove his daughters from the line. They still have their princess titles (they were bestowed by Letters Patent, so not dependent on his being a prince. Fergie's courtesy title did rest on his title of duke, so she lost it and is no longer a duchess).

everypageisempty · 21/02/2026 14:00

simpsonthecat · 20/02/2026 14:08

There is so much wrong with every paragraph of your post that I honestly do not know where to begin.
It's the usual stuff by Royalists and a lot of massaging of actual facts.

Agree, it's royal PR that is founded on rubbish.

Plenty of countries do just find tourism wise based on a 'past' monarchy...

MissAdvantage · 21/02/2026 13:41

I know one of his ex protection officers. The things I heard! This is a deeply unpleasant man - a horrible temper and terrible attitude . Spoke to people with contempt and like shit

and that’s before we get to anything criminal

Rumpoleoftheballet · 21/02/2026 13:38

Strngerthings · 19/02/2026 23:23

but andrew was never convicted of it, so therefore he is not

Nor was Jimmy Saville so in your world, do the same rules apply to him?

LizzieW1969 · 21/02/2026 11:55

BoxingHare · 21/02/2026 11:11

Not enough people would vote for him for a start.

In an ideal world, former PMs would be barred from applying.

A presidency shouldn't be seen as the "next step" for power hungry people.

Or any politicians at all. Imagine if we ended up with President Farage.

BeanQuisine · 21/02/2026 11:41

He would have cheered up once he got home and stuffed himself with birthday cake and gin.

"Those coppers think they're better than me," he would have mumbled, shovelling in another slice, "but they have to shine their own shoes!"

"Shine their own fucking shoes, can you imagine?" And he would have sprayed cake everywhere while bursting into weird laughter, and raising his middle finger at an imaginary "copper".

BoxingHare · 21/02/2026 11:11

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:15

I have genuinely turned republican over this, and I've been monarchist all my life. I'm fed up of being one of the little people.

Just kick them all out and elect Tony Blair instead and be done with it :)
(You know he'd put his hat in the ring..)

Not enough people would vote for him for a start.

In an ideal world, former PMs would be barred from applying.

A presidency shouldn't be seen as the "next step" for power hungry people.

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:17

If they cut Andrew off presumably the ones below him go as well?

Pedallleur · 21/02/2026 10:17

Article in The Guardian today in which it says that Charles tried to stop the Trade Envoy role as it was 'a disaster waiting to happen'
PhD??? Maybe Doctor of Privilege.

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:17

In much the same way as Matt Hancock (the affair bit) stopped me seeing the best in politicians. I felt a bit sorry for him during covid as I thought he was hard working / genuine. (he's just a bit younger than me).

I'm not going to spend the rest of my live being as naive an gullible.

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:15

I have genuinely turned republican over this, and I've been monarchist all my life. I'm fed up of being one of the little people.

Just kick them all out and elect Tony Blair instead and be done with it :)
(You know he'd put his hat in the ring..)

Notonthestairs · 21/02/2026 10:13

Discoated · 21/02/2026 10:04

The butterfly comments are ridiculous.

Government considers removing Andrew from royal line of succession. This should be a priority now.

They won’t introduce legislation to remove Andrew from the line of succession until the police investigation (and any court case) is concluded. I imagine that is months/years away.

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2026 10:07

Discoated · 21/02/2026 10:04

The butterfly comments are ridiculous.

Government considers removing Andrew from royal line of succession. This should be a priority now.

This is quite the move. When was the last time this happened?

Discoated · 21/02/2026 10:04

Pepperlee · 21/02/2026 09:52

My eyes aren't the best but I can see the hands.

The butterfly comments are ridiculous.

Government considers removing Andrew from royal line of succession. This should be a priority now.

Pepperlee · 21/02/2026 09:52

Notmenothere · 21/02/2026 09:00

There are no butterflies attached. Those are the child’s hands.

My eyes aren't the best but I can see the hands.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/02/2026 09:51

BunfightBetty · 20/02/2026 21:47

Yes, this.

Andrew deserves this, by the sound of it, but why is it that the only two high profile people being investigated are British?

Why aren't the Americans investigating their people? Trump etc seem to be feeling immune.

They're being investigated for offences committed in British law/things that are contrary to the interests of the UK. And in the course of those investigations, the searches of paperwork, emails, call logs and the like may reveal other information and evidence that could expand the range of people.

A way of looking at it would be that they've provided two handy weak spots - first Mandelson and then, possibly through something in his investigation, they've found things that made it feasible to arrest AMW and do the same.

Once it leaps over to Chinese interests, then the bit people are talking about - the sexual behaviour, foul though it is - will fall by the wayside due to the implications for national security.

FourCheese · 21/02/2026 09:45

Discoated · 21/02/2026 09:44

Anything involving the BRF generates huge global media interest. See also, Diana, Harry, Meghan.

I know.