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Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

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busymomtoone · 19/02/2026 21:55

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

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Clarabell77 · 23/02/2026 21:18

Broken because he got caught. Ffs.

scottishgirl69 · 23/02/2026 21:17

LizzieW1969 · 23/02/2026 21:15

Yes, he has been arrested now. The worst possible timing for Starmer, with an important by-election this week.

Who cares about Starmer? Hes as dodgy as they come. Only cares about himself.

LizzieW1969 · 23/02/2026 21:15

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 21:00

I think he has been now.

Yes, he has been arrested now. The worst possible timing for Starmer, with an important by-election this week.

Womaninhouse17 · 23/02/2026 21:00

Betterbelieveit · 23/02/2026 14:35

I feel sorry for him because he is a human being, just as I feel sorry for the Epstein victims.

I am confused that Mandelson (sp) hasn't been arrested, and yet his story came out first.

I think he has been now.

Betterbelieveit · 23/02/2026 14:35

I feel sorry for him because he is a human being, just as I feel sorry for the Epstein victims.

I am confused that Mandelson (sp) hasn't been arrested, and yet his story came out first.

Elisirdamour · 23/02/2026 14:25

anxiousmum1998 · 23/02/2026 08:46

Unfortunately there is evidence in the Epstein files

There is evidence of Andrew sexually abusing children in the Epstein’s files? Are you sure? Why isn’t this being reported by the media?

simpsonthecat · 23/02/2026 11:30

Skybunnee · 23/02/2026 10:51

I’m annoyed he is the only fall guy -the girls must have tsken the money rather than seeking nustice

I think you need to put your mind to reading some court papers perhaps because that is not true.

Skybunnee · 23/02/2026 10:51

I’m annoyed he is the only fall guy -the girls must have tsken the money rather than seeking nustice

1dayatatime · 23/02/2026 10:26

anxiousmum1998 · 23/02/2026 08:46

Unfortunately there is evidence in the Epstein files

It seems highly likely (otherwise why was she paid off with hush money) that Andrew had sex with Virginia Guthrie when she was aged 17 and he was aged 41. This was a criminal offence in the US at the time where the age of consent was 18 and she was classed as a child.

There is no evidence in the files that Andrew had sex with anyone else under the age of 18 or 16, unless you would like to provide links as evidence.

LizzieW1969 · 23/02/2026 10:20

If AMW really isn’t guilty of any wrongdoing, as he insists, why won’t he give evidence to Congress? He could reveal the names of those powerful men who are currently still walking free in the US.

No empathy for the victims. Whether he’s guilty of SA of the underage victims of Epstein, he clearly doesn’t care about them at all. It’s all about him.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 23/02/2026 09:06

Good grief, no! He's an unbelievably privileged grown adult who is fully responsible for everything he's done. I'll save my compassion for his victims. As an aside, I've noticed a flood of blue-tick accounts on twitter trying to defend him there too.

anxiousmum1998 · 23/02/2026 08:46

Elisirdamour · 22/02/2026 11:16

Did Andrew abuse children? I know he had sex with trafficked women, but children? Where is the evidence of this?

Unfortunately there is evidence in the Epstein files

Elisirdamour · 23/02/2026 08:33

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2026 08:18

Information coming out of the Epstein files describes youngsters of both sexes - some as young as 14 - being trafficked. In Florida in 2008, Epstein was convicted of procuring a minor for prostitution and soliciting. When he died in prison in 2019, he was awaiting trial on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors.

Regardless of whether he had sex with minors, if Andrew had sex with girls who were trafficked then he himself is guilty of trafficking. That’s the law - and according to the king himself, no-one is above it.

Yes, Andrew is almost certainly guilty of having sex with trafficked women - but that is not the same as saying he sexually abused children.

Shadeflower · 23/02/2026 08:26

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2026 08:21

Reports in the news over the weekend of former prime minister Gordon Brown passing information to various police forces, suggesting that AMW used military air bases to facilitate Epstein’s private jet, and appropriated military aircraft to meet Epstein. All at the tax payers expense. If it’s true, the entitlement is off the scale.

I like Gordon Brown, and better late than never, I suppose, but I don't understand why he didn't do this at the time. If anyone could have, he could, surely?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2026 08:21

Reports in the news over the weekend of former prime minister Gordon Brown passing information to various police forces, suggesting that AMW used military air bases to facilitate Epstein’s private jet, and appropriated military aircraft to meet Epstein. All at the tax payers expense. If it’s true, the entitlement is off the scale.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2026 08:18

Elisirdamour · 22/02/2026 11:16

Did Andrew abuse children? I know he had sex with trafficked women, but children? Where is the evidence of this?

Information coming out of the Epstein files describes youngsters of both sexes - some as young as 14 - being trafficked. In Florida in 2008, Epstein was convicted of procuring a minor for prostitution and soliciting. When he died in prison in 2019, he was awaiting trial on federal charges of sex trafficking of minors.

Regardless of whether he had sex with minors, if Andrew had sex with girls who were trafficked then he himself is guilty of trafficking. That’s the law - and according to the king himself, no-one is above it.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2026 08:07

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 22/02/2026 20:30

Wrt his being the Queen's favourite child, isn't it often the case that the supposed favourite child position is given to the child the mother is most worried about?

Well judging by what’s happening now, she had reason didn’t she ? If the favouritism including indulging his outrageous sense of entitlement then they’re all responsible.

The RF have effectively hung Andrew out to dry and backed away from him. I understand that that is to protect their reputation but you have to wonder to what extent they knew about the stuff that’s being uncovered now.

simpsonthecat · 22/02/2026 20:35

Absolutely not with my siblings. Quite the.opposite in fact!

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 22/02/2026 20:30

Wrt his being the Queen's favourite child, isn't it often the case that the supposed favourite child position is given to the child the mother is most worried about?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/02/2026 20:24

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Friendlygingercat · 22/02/2026 13:25

I dont have any strong feelings about him. Most people in his position accused of a serious crime would be genuinely worried about their future. Yes he is going to be a social pariah. However he is not going to find himself homeless and having to use a food bank. His brother the king will always provide for him, if only in a minimal way. Most people who break the law suffer huge material loss.

Thindog · 22/02/2026 12:44

The flag waving, bowing and genuflecting proles who toady around the royals have given them the impression that being royal is equivalent to being a god.
The proles upheld and enabled the system that created the monster.

AInightingale · 22/02/2026 11:32

I do feel that the outrage rings a bit hollow when you consider the countless men - the 'ordinary' sons, husbands, boyfriends - who use prostitutes, at home and abroad, the stag dos where men pick up sex workers, the sex tourism in Germany, Amsterdam, the far east, red light districts here, the calls in the UK for the legalisation of brothels. Many of those women and girls will have been trafficked, are abuse victims, are addicts funding their habits. There's a widespread culture of male sexual entitlement and exploitation that doesn't begin and end with a monstrous sex ring run by a billionaire financier for the benefit of his rich famous friends. So I would never excuse or feel any pity for Andrew, but I do see his behaviour as part of a larger pattern.

Elisirdamour · 22/02/2026 11:16

anxiousmum1998 · 21/02/2026 23:00

Not in the slightest .The man is a sick ,twisted individual who deserves every thing he gets .I feel sorry the children he abused not him

Did Andrew abuse children? I know he had sex with trafficked women, but children? Where is the evidence of this?

OneBlueFinch · 22/02/2026 08:01

She was a girl when she was abused by him and others.