Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

I honestly don’t. He doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong and he still has the arrogance to think he won’t be held accountable. I don’t think he looked upset in the picture last night, I think he looked outraged.

Good point.

Everything he valued (money, title, status) has been taken from him. He deserves that tenfold. But I don't want him to harm himself and I suspect that's where it will end up.

It speaks well of you that you can find some compassion for someone who is mostly the architect of his own fall

@Freya1542 personally I don't feel sorry for him at all but people can feel two and more things simultaneously. We are not ai robots just yet.

Genuine question OP - when you look at his victims do you feel the same?

He's never had to do well in school, work hard, hold down a job, earn money, buy a house, buy food. All he had to do was not be a pedo. Life asked nothing of him, and he couldn't even manage that

Nope

The same way that all arrests of people in the public eye are quickly reported, I guess. The swarm of unmarked police cars arriving at his residence will have been a pretty big clue. The police haven’t named him.

I have a feeling that he won't be here this time next year and I don't think the press and social media will stop the hounding of him until he's 6 feet under. Just waiting for all the TikTok detectives to come out now.

Apparently they confiscated his guns because they were worried that he might hurt himself. Anne and Edward didn't want the King to do what he did either and were said to be very worried about his mental state.

He's not been arrested for sex trafficking but for giving Epstein top secret information. Two very different things.

He doesn't appear to have any redeeming features. No, I don't feel sorry for him in the slightest.

My compassion is reserved for his and Epstein's victims.(Yes, I know that's not what he's been arrested for, although we as taxpayers are also his victims in a much lesser way than the trafficked girls).

I wouldn't wish him harm but that's not the same as feeling sorry for a situation entirely of his own greedy, entitled making - whether or not he's charged with criminal offences.

I agree too. The jury will also be deciding his guilt or otherwise of sexual offences not of misconduct in public office.

They offer quite a lot of protection most of the time, I think.

No. Hopefully others will realise position, wealth, sex and power won't protect you if you abuse others, especially the vulnerable.

I also believe society has a case to answer for not believing victims, turning away and especially the powerful - including government and upper class - for covering up abuse, buying or bullying silence, instead of calling it out.

He hasn’t been arrested for crimes against women and children though, he’s been arrested for misconduct in a public office.

People feeling sorry for him and excusing his behaviour is part of the problem, I am sure if he wasn't in a rich boys club with his mother making excuses for him he would of had his downfall a lot earlier in life

It’s not an odd take though, is it? His daughters are going to be going through a rollercoaster of emotions. Just because a family member does a horrific thing, it doesn’t mean you’re still not going to have certain feelings for them. That’s called being human. Plus it’s not just him mentioned is it? It’s their mother too.

Nope. Not one iota.

If it were a different crime then maybe.

But I will never feel sorry for anyone who gets caught for willingly hurting women or children. And definitely if some of this stuff in the files is true. I feel like he’s got off lightly to be back home.

God no. Not even a little bit.

You feel sorry for an alleged child rapist? Do you have sympathy with all children abusers, or just the really rich privileged ones?

I agree, the police are not allowed to name victims until they are charged so how did the story break?

Fuck off, show me where I minimised what Andrew has done, go on. I said I didn’t feel sorry for him. Mumsnet is full of idiots than scan read and then pile on.

No

Have you read Epstein files at all? What a wierdo feeling sorry for him

I don’t agree with this PP’s reasoning at all about SA not being so bad if it isn’t rough. It isn’t like that at all. But I do agree that it won’t have been specifically Andrew who drove her to suicide. He was one of many.

It was her father who destroyed her life from very early on, and then he allowed her to be abused by many other men. This is what my F did to me. I’m not angry with the other men (although it made me angry when one of them was investigated and not charged), it’s my F who I blame for it all.

Because that isn’t primarily about the SA, it’s about the betrayal by the person who is supposed to protect you.

None of this is saying that the other men aren’t despicable, btw. They deserve everything they get. It’s sickening for me that yet more child abusers are getting away with their evil crimes.

FFS are you illiterate? I was referring to them both having a shared sense of privilege with no consequences, NOT the crime. I even referred to Crack on twisting what I said.

I also said I had absolutely no sense of pity for him.

Weirdo.