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To feel sad, but not guilty

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SummerFate · 19/02/2026 18:45

Bit of a strange one…

I suffered quite a bit of bullying at school, but I did have a friendship group. None of us were particularly happy at school, which I think was a big part of us sticking together. Most of us decided not to stay on for sixth form - a couple got jobs, and a couple of others went onto training courses. I decided to do my A Levels at the local college instead. Only one of us, Cathy, who was super-academic (to the point her GCSE results made the papers) stayed on.

I tried to keep in touch with all my friends, but they didn’t really make the same effort, and to be honest I think we all enjoyed having new friends. Only Cathy made a concerted effort, for which I was grateful. But it became obvious quite quickly that we didn’t have a lot in common one-on-one. Also, she got quite snooty about our other friends, and how they’d never get anywhere in life without their A Levels; I found it quite difficult.

I never fell out with Cathy, but after university I saw less and less of her. I eventually moved away and didn’t keep in touch. Anyway, I went to a school reunion recently, and was shocked to hear someone had said he’d heard Cathy had died. I only heard this second hand, so I don’t know any of the details or even if it’s definitely true. There’s certainly no trace of her on social media, but I can’t imagine she would ever have been interested in it anyway. She also has/had a very common name, so wouldn’t be easy to find online.

Obviously it’s terrible if it’s true. But onto my AIBU… I was talking to someone from school about it, and she was very shocked too. She said it was very sad news but that “you mustn’t feel guilty”. I was a bit taken aback and asked what she meant. She said “Well, I know you sort of drifted apart after uni. But you couldn’t have known this would happen.”

I honestly found it odd that she’d even thought about it in those terms. Of course I’m sad (assuming it’s true) - it’s terrible to think of someone so young dying. But guilty? I just don’t see it. Should I have made more effort to see her just in case something happened to her one day? We all die. Most of us are lucky enough not to die young, but no one escapes it. A friendship that wasn’t working wouldn’t suddenly have started working if I’d had the knowledge she wouldn’t be around forever.

So do I have anything to be guilty about?

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 20/02/2026 16:53

Why hell should you feel guilty? Friendships drift all the time, especially after a few years; it would almost be more noteable if you were still friends. And unless she had a medical condition of which you were the only doctor in the country with specialist methods for treating - why on earth would her death, sad though it is, be ANYTHING to do with you?

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 16:50

Just out of interest, can I ask why you went to a reunion when you hated school life, didn’t have many meaningful friendships and lost touch with everyone? I liked school, had a few friends, one of whom is my best friend still, and wouldn’t dream of going to a reunion. I’m just wondering why you went?

I’m back in touch with a school friend and we had an “I will if you will” discussion. We figured that if it was horrendous, we could always slope over somewhere else and get drunk 😁

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SummerFate · 20/02/2026 16:47

But why do you think all of that is relevant? You clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't have included it all, but to an observer, it seems as if it's purely a matter of an old school friend you hadn't seen in years having possibly died, possibly by suicide.

Because if I hadn’t, people would have asked “How close were you? Why did you stop seeing her? Did you fall out?” And I’ve been on Mumsnet long enough to know that, if you don’t include all the information, some posters will simply invent it - your suicide suggestion being a case in point.

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FasterMichelin · 20/02/2026 15:12

YANBU, the only thing I can think of is perhaps Cathy perceived it differently and expressed that to this person? Did you ghost her? Not respond to messages?

Just out of interest, can I ask why you went to a reunion when you hated school life, didn’t have many meaningful friendships and lost touch with everyone? I liked school, had a few friends, one of whom is my best friend still, and wouldn’t dream of going to a reunion. I’m just wondering why you went?

WhatNoRaisins · 20/02/2026 15:09

OP maybe this person did feel guilty and what she's saying is more about her than you.

lastlonelygrape · 20/02/2026 15:09

Not only would I not feel guilty, I'd be annoyed with the person who implied that maybe you should (even though she framed it as 'you mustn't'). I'd probably make it clear to her (if you haven't already) that of course you don't feel guilty. You don't owe sustained lifelong contact with everyone you're ever friendly with. Drifting is a natural part of life.

MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 15:08

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 13:22

I asked for advice, not a review from the fucking literary critic of The Times.

But why do you think all of that is relevant? You clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't have included it all, but to an observer, it seems as if it's purely a matter of an old school friend you hadn't seen in years having possibly died, possibly by suicide.

The only peculiar thing here is that the person who told you appeared to feel that she needed to reassure you that you shouldn't feel 'guilty'. Was that person quite strange during your school days? Because it's a deeply weird thing to say.

Gcn · 20/02/2026 15:06

I would have been thrown by that comment too, and would have asked why they thought I would feel guilty about her death?

A few friends from school/uni have sadly died, and whilst I might regret not keeping in touch I certainly don't carry any guilt for their death.

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 15:02

Empress13 · 20/02/2026 13:38

Is there more to this OP? Did she take her own life due to you bullying her etc which is the only thing I can think of. If not then you have nothing to feel guilty about

We were both bullied; we didn’t do the bullying.

I don’t know how she died, or even that it’s definitely true. I was just a bit thrown by the “You shouldn’t feel guilty” comment. Anyway, it seems like most people agree I shouldn’t!

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Silverbirchleaf · 20/02/2026 14:54

Empress13 · 20/02/2026 13:38

Is there more to this OP? Did she take her own life due to you bullying her etc which is the only thing I can think of. If not then you have nothing to feel guilty about

I think op was one of her friends, not a bully.

Empress13 · 20/02/2026 13:38

Is there more to this OP? Did she take her own life due to you bullying her etc which is the only thing I can think of. If not then you have nothing to feel guilty about

TheCriticalThinker · 20/02/2026 13:35

You didn't ask for advice in what to do, you asked if your friend was being unreasonable in saying what she said. To be able to answer that, that requires a critique of your post.

I think the consensus is that what she said makes no sense - unless there's something you're not telling us?

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 13:22

I asked for advice, not a review from the fucking literary critic of The Times.

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TheCriticalThinker · 20/02/2026 09:51

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 08:38

Forgive me - I hadn’t realised people were planning to critique my post 🙄

That's literally what you asked people to do

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 08:38

MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 00:28

But the basic scenario is ‘An old school friend I hadn’t seen in many years died’. It’s not clear what the bullying and not staying on for A levels or her degree had to do with anything, unless you actually do think it was your job to save the life of someone you’d barely seen since your schooldays and latterly didn’t much like?

Forgive me - I hadn’t realised people were planning to critique my post 🙄

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MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 00:28

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 00:16

Who knew detail was a bad thing?

But the basic scenario is ‘An old school friend I hadn’t seen in many years died’. It’s not clear what the bullying and not staying on for A levels or her degree had to do with anything, unless you actually do think it was your job to save the life of someone you’d barely seen since your schooldays and latterly didn’t much like?

Glaspeated · 20/02/2026 00:19

There isn’t anything to feel guilty about. Friendships sometimes drift, non-acrimoniously. Nothing to see here.

SummerFate · 20/02/2026 00:16

Nickyknackered · 19/02/2026 18:54

Gosh there was a lot of additional detail in there!

No guilt needed.

Who knew detail was a bad thing?

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BeagleSkunk · 19/02/2026 20:04

Could she have been depressed and suicidal? And the comment was a very bad attempt at trying to reassure you about any guilt you might feel about not staying in touch? Rather than suggest that you should feel guilty?

igglu · 19/02/2026 20:02

Sorry, accidentally pressed yabu 😫

YourGreenCat · 19/02/2026 19:54

She must have felt guilty for whatever reason, it has nothing to do with you. Of course you don't feel guilty everytime you grow apart.

If you are in a class of 30 kids, imagine how many people you meet and grow apart after 6 years (x 30) of Primary schools and 4 or 5 years of secondary (again x 30 people in the class)

It's insane 😂

LlynTegid · 19/02/2026 19:34

Someone who you had lost touch with has sadly died at a young age. No way should you feel guilty, much as you may regret not having spoken to her.

Silverbirchleaf · 19/02/2026 19:27

No, you have nothing to feel guilty about. Friendships drift, that’s a fact of life. You’ve done nothing wrong (and if she wanted to keep in touch, she could have made more effort!).

TheCriticalThinker · 19/02/2026 19:26

Am very confused as to why anyone would think you have anything to feel guilty about?

Someone you once knew may have died - provided the death had nothing to do with you, I don't get what there is to feel guilty about?

WhatNoRaisins · 19/02/2026 19:21

You've nothing to feel guilty about. As someone who was also bullied at school I don't think it's unusual to not want to be around people from a difficult time in your life and want to move on. It doesn't mean that you blame these people though, just some people find it better for their mental health.

In any case it doesn't sound like this friendship would have worked if you don't get on that well and don't live near each other, you need at least one of those things.