To think Queen Elizabeth's legacy is going to be seriously harmed by this?

People don't mention that as part of her settlement she got him to apologise to her for for the frankly, slut shaming behaviour of AMW's lawyers. Presumably because that was all they had. I suspect if it had gone to trial, it would also have come out that he was using RPO's inappropriately, despite what the Met said.

Yeah, I don’t believe she was a naive little old lady, she was the Queen of England for 70 years.

Mother defends son, more news at 12.

It’s not exactly a new phenomenon that mums protect/enable their badly behaving sons. The fact he was an entitled twat that seems to be universally disliked including by his own staff speaks volumes.

According to her closest friend (lady Anson) she knew what he was like and just wouldn’t listen. She just closed the subject down.

And, apparently, she paid at least part of the money to VG.

She colluded - as simple as that.

@Blossomtoes
How did you expect her to ‘hold out for justice’?! With the entire weight of the legal system of the royal family against her?! The lies, the smears, the corruption- she stood no chance.

Yes

Yes I did which was why I expected her to hold out for justice and not accept money.

You what now? The D of E is described on the official website as a full time working member of the RF. Well, someone's gotta do now Andy and Harry are off the scene. I'm guessing he just gets on with it. 🤷‍♀️

I thought much less of her when she allowed herself to be bought off.

Did you really? Do you even think of how much she suffered and endured during the years of trying to bring AMW to account?

That isn’t the point. If he’s subject to the law for one crime, he’s equally subject to it for others. In any event Giuffre’s was a civil case. I thought much less of her when she allowed herself to be bought off.

It’s always a risk with a royal family that one will turn out to be a seriously flawed individual. Prince Andrew was for long time the spare (Princess Anne unfortunately didn’t count).

He's being quizzed about passing sensitive info and possibly Govt .documents his sexual impropriety doest come into it unfortunately .

Problem is, I think people are slowly starting to realise that the whole monarchy is laughable. They’re finally questioning why we allow people to born into power and wealth when their blood is the same as ours. Why are we looking up to people who are the same as us? It’s alright saying they work hard, so does the rest of the country and they don’t get the same luxuries. If she did pay that £12 million to bail out her favourite boy Andy then her legacy should be harmed. How vile

Good. She was a very rich old lady who had delusions of grandeur fed by sycophants.

She’s making stuff up.

She didn't seem confused to me. And why do you say Philip went dotty? He always said rude stuff & age exacerbated that but I didn't notice cognitive decline particularly.

Clearly not in light of subsequent events.

VG was probably better taking the money getting a result against the Establishment would be akin to pissing in the wind.

The money was paid in 2022 when QE was still alive and every single news report credits her with it. She might have been old but she wasn’t dotty enough to need anyone else to “control the purse strings”. I’d have a lot more sympathy for Giuffre if she’d turned the money down and fought the court case.

The point is, the insitution thought that paying VG off would get them out of this trouble. Which tells you everything you need to know. They’ve been burying incriminating evidence for centuries: it’s how they’ve survived (amongst other means). The real question is what else they’ve buried that hasn’t come to light. Hints are all there in the public domain.

None of them come out good in any of this.
12 million was damage limitation cash🤮

She didn’t personally authorise the payment. It came from the “royal family” which Charles was in control of by then.

I saw a confused old woman not understanding why Andrew was being excluded whenever there was a video of the family attending church or some ceremony. Her financial assets were being abused by her own children to try and cover up Andrew’s crimes. We all know Phillip had gone dotty before the millenium.

She didn’t pay the £12m.
The “royal family” did.
By then, Charles was controlling the purse strings for both QEII and PP

The Queen must have known what the RF were paying 12m for.

Apparently 7/8m was from QE, 2/3m from Philip and the rest from the wider family. Oh they all knew.

Lets pay up guys, must keep the massive billion pound show on the road!

Arseholes the lot of them.

Andrew is exactly what their like produce when he's not reigned in and thankfully with media coverage today, more lack of deference, he's been investigated. Lets hope it's just the start of investigating the whole murky lot of them.

It's like people think a US-based lawyer just saunters up to the Queen's private secretary and says 'I have a client with a story about your kid and that'll be a very public 12m pls'

They know what they paid for.

I do wonder what she may have known but she's not here to answer that, so just focus on holding the man himself accountable. I very much doubt she knew how far it went. Maybe just saw him as a party boy.