What if it had been Charles?

Was Prince Philip not effectively forced to hand in his driving licence after an accident?

I'd be quite worried about Charles mental health or memory issues if he was caught shop lifting hes one of the richest men in the world.

I think he would feel as if he had to pay the equivalent of whatever a fine would be.

What about smaller crimes? If KC was shoplifting? Or got caught speeding?

Does he drive himself or go in normal shops?

Apparently Sovereign immunity was last tested in 1911, when King George V was accused of bigamy but then the Lord Chief Justice decided that the King could not be ordered to give evidence so it was all dropped - well King didn't have to be witness in his court even though he brought the case.

Now reading it would be the State Immunity Act 1978 that applies which does still make the monarch personally immune from criminal and civil actions.

So no he couldn't be prosecuted - rest of the family can be and have like Princess Anna - but King I think it would have to be a big crime that parliament couldn't ignore and got public opinion firmly against the monarch and they'd have to change the laws and look at our consitution and do something unexpected. Anything else I think would be quietly dealt with behind the scenes.

King Farouk the last King of Egypt before the 1952 revolution, was famously dubbed the pickpocket king due to his notorious kleptomania. He was known to steal valuables, including a pocket watch from Winston Churchill and ceremonial items from foreign dignitaries. It was a bit of a nightmare for the foreign securty services to get the items back apparently.

It was the meddling Grandmother's. Including the grandmother who made sure Charles was away for months with the Navy the moment he started to show an intrest in Camilla, who didn't actually know he had the hots for her.

Yes he dated the older sister. But that doesn't mean he knew Diana.

It was a very poor plan. Charles and Diana were failed by both families.

Princess Anne has been done for speeding. She has also been up in front of the beak for having a dangerous dog 😆

I was going to point to Glorious Revolution of 1689 but as PP mention James fled - so they could argue oh look here another better person to fill empty slot.

The act of settlement post Queen Ann - made it so parliament said who next monarch was - so have to be a legitimate decentent of Princess Sophia, Electress of Hanover (granddaughter of James I) and not catholic.

I did wonder if amending that act to remove anyone with a conviction in UK - if Andrew gets convicted of something in a UK court at certain level of crime - (I think Ann got speeding convcition and having an out of control dog )- would sort the succesion out - but once have the crown on head that is different.

I assume huge pressure to abdicate would be applied and if that didn't work parliament would have to step in and look at our consitution again. I think any consitutional power battle now would involve courts and referendum votes rather than armies and civil war as it did in 1640s.

He also said that the Dalai Lama has always lived in "sanctity and celibacy - well quite. Look what that does to catholic priests!

Nooooo. The world would surely end if Keane Reeves ended up being a bad’un

Omg the Dalai Lama!! Had no idea!! How disgusting. Who next - Keanu Reeves?!

This is a really interesting question. I wasn’t aware that the law doesn’t apply to the monarch but that makes sense - crown prosecution etc. it makes me very uncomfortable to be honest - not because I think the monarch would necessarily take advantage of this but just the message that sends. We are a society that has a person who was born into enough privilege to be literally above the law. Ethically that is so problematic. I think it’s time to start dismantling the monarchy, it doesn’t have a place in modern society.

A grown man asking a child to suck his tongue is NOT innocent or affectionate!!

I find this interesting too op.

What about smaller crimes? If KC was shoplifting? Or got caught speeding?

If you google it, it seems he is mentioned in relation to JE trying to contact him to arrange a dinner.

I take it back, its not what I remember

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65272213

I thought I remembered a lot of stuff coming out about him and small boys a few years back?

The Dalai Lama is in the Epstein files and no one seems bothered about him.

Daft nonsense.

But it wasn’t? And there are checks and balances in the system that are unsaid. Edward 8th was removed for his Nazi leanings. If Charles had committed similar to Andrew, a reason would have been found.

Yes- I was including her family in “the British establishment”. She had it coming from all directions.

The role and powers of the monarch ignites a question, for the future. A political party lets call it Re-farm iselected at a general election. The leader, let's call him Herbert Garrige and the party are reviled by many, but a clear win under due process means the leader goes to buck pal. The monarch says No.
There would be interesting hand wringing by anti monarchists, democratic followers and of course supporters of the winning party.
Wanna buy a popcorn franchise?

He’d be forced to abdicate and then would rightfully be arrested. Technically the monarch can murder someone and be immune but of course we wouldn’t allow that to happen as a society.

You have proof of this?

QE and best friend of Saville both paid hush money on behalf of him- how naive of you to think they are all not in it. On x and daily express? there are claims that QE was also client of epstein

He had gone out with her older sister though
And theu may have met only a few times as in dated
But I think they would have known each other ,her family was Aristocracy, so im sure the royal family would have had the any of the daughters in mind as Charles ,s wife
But in reality it was a very poor match as well as the very large age gap they had little in common.

Remember her family were encouraging it too. Her sister had already refused.
They met 7 times before engagement and about another 7 before the wedding. By the time she had doubts the engagement had been announced.

It was 100% a very badly matched arranged marriage. It should never have happened. Both families failed them, especially the meddling grandmother's.