So what do we think will happen to Andrew, could he actually go to prison?

My point was that pp pointed out something that has been pointed out several times on the thread, including by me only last night!

But also, as pp says, this is still an emerging story.

There have been further allegations of AMW having sex with a trafficked woman, which are being investigated. I don’t know if this is pre or post law change.
ETA I’ve just seen it allegedly occurred in 2010, so post the law change.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clymxxlm3xzo

What have I missed? I thought having sex with trafficked women was not illegal at the time Andrew had sex with VG (allegedly)?

Haven't multiple posters explained to you he is being investigated for sex trafficking? That is a sexual crime.

Years ago I read that he was considering using Arthur for when he became king, since Charles doesn't have a great history

I think Andrew is self-important, dim and entitled. Because of those traits he could be manipulated and his strings were pulled by JE, who we know was a master manipulator. I don't believe he's a suicide or flight risk. I doubt very much he has any interest in anyone else unless they are a means of making money, getting his rocks off or bolstering his ego.

I was interested and somewhat bemused to read of the government exploration of possible legislation to remove the individual from the line of succession.

It would be seemingly only a symbolic gesture as he is never going to be in a position to succeed to the throne. It does absolutely convey a message to him about how disgraced he is and how far he has fallen though.

I have no doubt that he is a particularly unpleasant sleazebag with no moral character whatsoever. I think its important that the police investigate the serious allegations against him related to his role as a trade envoy and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law and if convicted he must go to prison.

Its also a possibility that the police will also investigate allegations against him of human sex trafficking and prosecute for that as well. Nobody can be above the law. There are other people out there in positions of power who are just as culpable as he is and they also need to be exposed and prosecuted as well.

I do think he is at risk to his own safety whilst on bail either from harming himself or from someone in power who will want to silence him against the possibility of him singing like a canary.

He will be closely watched I think. Either that or he is a flight risk but I would imagine that the authorities have removed his passport to prevent this.

I would actually be ok with this happening actually, if she would reveal all about Epstein and the other powerful men involved with him. She has already served jail time at least.

It sits uneasy with me that the only one who’s done jail time is a woman anyway. (Not that she didn’t deserve to be.)

Point taken. Yes, a charge of treason would be very appropriate. Which Edward VIII should have been charged with (it carried the death penalty in those days).

It would be easier to charge Mandelson with Misconduct in Public Office.

She has said she will tell all for her freedom and immunity from prosecution

I hoe he goes to prison for betraying confidential / secret stuff to Epstein, who had strong links apparently to the UK's enemies such as Russia and China and other countries, as well as for the awful sexual stuff, if it's proven to have happened.

This culpable fool has lived off UK taxpayers' money all his life and should have been brought up to think of the UK's best interests, not puffing up his bloated ego and betraying the people who he both depended on and despised.

I think that misconduct in a public office is hard to prove and there will be doubts about whether or not he was in a public office.

On the other hand, treason might fit the circumstances

Prison would be a nightmare for the prison estate.

But the Misconduct in Public Office might achieve that. It’s much more likely to achieve that than any sexual offences charge anyway. It can carry a heavy sentence too, if he were to be convicted. (Assuming they can find a way for him to have a fair trial in this country.)

Although the investigation into flights into Stansted Airport might yet lead to a trafficking charge.

No, he won’t go to prison. It’s doubtful the sex allegations could even get to Court. 🤷‍♀️.

She doesn’t want to end up dead like Epstein?

Naming the powerful men would be massively dangerous for her, and unless she can direct law enforcement to clear proof it may not achieve anything.

Silence is her only chance of surviving her sentence and leaving prison. It’s not like she’s suddenly going to care more about the victims than herself so she’s not going to say a word to make her life more difficult or dangerous.

Exactly this.

Andrew Lownie (biographer who wrote Entitled) has said he believes AMW is a flight risk and will scarper to Bahrain or one of the other Gulf states. I wouldn’t bet against that happening pretty quickly now.

I totally agree. Charles should not go to the USA. Trump is up to his neck in the Epstein files and Charles should have nothing to do with it.

I'm sorry but I don't agree. Nothing is more important than national security - he could have passed on any type of top secret information which could have left our country vulnerable to attack.

You haven't read the full thread, clearly. Or even the posts from yesterday!😄

I agree that his victims are more important than misconduct in public office. It’s an insult quite honestly, but let’s hope this arrest leads to some form of justice for them. I say that because really, nothing will truly be enough for all they suffered. I really can’t see him going to prison - at most house arrest (hope I’m wrong). It’s quite clear that the King is not going to protect him In the way their mother had all these years - good. However, he was still born Royal. The family may wash their hands of him publicly and maybe even privately, but he has connections. Many were involved. One of the many things we can probably take away from this is that there is so much corruption. So, I can’t imagine he’s likely to experience the consequences like any other person.

He hasn’t committed any sexual offences.
Trafficking wasn’t a crime until 2003 so even if she was brought over against her will no such crime existed then (1998/1999) so Prince Andrew is still not guilty of any sexual crimes.

Don't be ridiculous. Anyone on here does not know him and is entitled to an opinion.

This could be an Al Capone moment. They may not be able to prove the sex offences, although they know he's guilty, so they get him on something else. The sharing information in a public office still could carry a life sentence. Look at O J Simpson. Could not get him for the murder of his wife, but got him for a completely different offence. I feel they will get him, it will take a while, but they will get him on something.

He will have a top notch, fabulously expensive legal team paid for by Charles aka the British taxpayer and likely get off as a result.