So what do we think will happen to Andrew, could he actually go to prison?

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King Charles I in 1647. He was beheaded. Look up the English Civil War.

If think both are as important as each other; the sex stuff that he hasn’t been arrested for and the misbehaviour in public office.

I wish this morning’s events meant that this is the beginning of other people being arrested but, apart from maybe Mandelson, I think it’s unlikely sadly.

Sex abuse stuff is always very difficult to prove. Depressing.

This. Andrew is just a performative scapegoat and one of many MANY powerful men involved. He’s just the fall guy for everyone else that of course no action will be taken against. It’s bread and circuses anyway. He won’t be going to prison.

Ive answered my own question - AI tells me this

The following are 10 notable or significant figures (officials and public servants) prosecuted for this offence in recent years:

• Nathan Gill (2025): The former leader of Reform UK in Wales and MEP was sentenced to 10.5 years in prison after admitting to taking bribes for pro-Russia interviews.
• Peter Ball (2015): The former Bishop of Lewes was sentenced to 32 months for indecent assault and misconduct in public office after abusing his authority to manipulate young men.
• Jeffrey Cook (2024): A Business Manager at the Ministry of Defence was sentenced to 30 months for receiving commission payments at the expense of the public purse.
• Deniz Jaffer & Jamie Lewis (2021): These Metropolitan Police officers were sentenced to 2 years and 9 months each for taking and sharing photos of the bodies of murder victims Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry.
• Matthew Longmate (2024): A former police officer whose initial suspended sentence was overturned by the Court of Appeal to 11 months of immediate imprisonment for sexual activity with a woman while on duty.
• Julian Maynard (2022): A Greater Manchester Police officer sentenced to 8 months in prison for forming inappropriate relationships with two women who had reported crimes.
• Graham Evans (2024): A prison support worker at HMP Hewell received a 9-month suspended sentence for failing to carry out welfare checks on a high-risk prisoner and falsifying records.
• James Stewart (2015): A secondary school headteacher sentenced to 5 years for defrauding his school of £100,000 to fund a "lavish lifestyle".
• Janice McAleese (2018): The CEO of a Northern Ireland public body received a two-year suspended sentence for making unauthorised payments to a company she was linked to.
• Ryan Collins (2021): A police digital forensics expert sentenced to 3 years for stealing thousands of sensitive crime scene images from police databases

Poor old King Charles

He’s being tried for giving state secrets to Epstein which carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.
I think he may be thrown under the bus and the trafficking charges are harder to prove. A lot of the women were Russian and have signed NDA’s for past settlements.

It will be very interesting if it does go to trial. Would a jury trial even be possible? How would it be possible to find an unbiased jury?

I would love it if he could be put on trial, and convicted, obviously, as that’s what should happen. But I wouldn’t want him to be able to wriggle out of it on the basis of a fair trial not being possible.

I think he will go to prison.
The royal family will not object to that happening because they know if they do it will cost them dear.
Charles statement has made it clear Andrew is on his own ….. good.
I hope they throw away the key.

Who was the last one?

Yeah, totally agree. But with any luck and a fair wind this might, just might be the beginning of the end of that whole parasitical family.

I sincerely hope that he will end up in prison. But I'm not entirely sure how it would work. Presumably, it wouldn't be safe to just bang him up in an ordinary prison alongside other prisoners, but it wouldn't be justice if he was given his own wing with better facilities.

I don't really care it they take him down for misconduct in a public office rather than sex offences. The latter would be much harder to prove, while the former could still result in a hefty sentence.

I would like to believe that it could happen. And to some extent, I think the rest of the monarchy might need it to happen as they will all be tainted if he is allowed to escape justice.

Of course, he might choose to end things himself before getting to the point of imprisonment.

I expect we will see Mandelson arrested next, and rightly so. He and Andrew both deserve to go down.

What I want to know is when there is going to be some accountability for the perpetrators in the US.

He’ll disappear off to a foreign country with no extradition.

My money's on house arrest, because it costs less than a private wing of a prison. The last Royal arrest was 350 years ago. The monarchy has cast Andrew adrift, paving the way yo him doing yime like any other citizen who betrays his country. The public will further lose confidence in the police and judicial system if he doesn't receive the same treatment as any other person guilty of misconduct in public office.

Certainly possible, but not very likely in my view.

Who were the last 10 people to be convicted of the same offence (bear in mind he has not been charged yet) and what was the type of scenario and what was their sentence?

Be interesting to compare.

Is it a criminal offence to have sex with trafficked women?

Yes, it is.

Is there evidence that he knew they were trafficked if do

Doesn't need to be according to the legislation.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/53A

Is it a race to the bottom?

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Do you think Virginia was there of her own free will?

It's not a competition. Abuse is abuse and all of it is abhorrent.

I haven't heard that there's any evidence of him SA underage girls?
Is it a criminal offence to have sex with trafficked women? Is there evidence that he knew they were trafficked if do?

Exactly, this is what I said to a colleague earlier; he'd have to have his own private wing in the prison, with his own set of staff etc - so not even remotely cost effective/in the public's interest

Yes he's a disgusting human being, but he won't do prison time, unless it's a house-arrest style arrangement

Can’t help comparing that pic of a smiling young woman with his arm around her to a 12 year old girl on a stinking mattress in Rotherham.

Be mindful anything you say online could end up prejudicing proceedings if any take place. Will report this thread.

They couldn’t keep him safe in prison. And whatever you think about him, the government/DoJ has a duty of care towards anyone in custody.

Whether he’s convicted or not, a trial would be excoriating