XL Bully on coach

What's the problem? XL bullies have to have a muzzled so there is no danger there. She should have moved nearer to the driver if she felt that anxious and uncomfortable. Not wanting to draw attention to herself by moving is a bit of a dramatic excuse not to move as not once did you say the dogs were trying to approach her or the men were hassling her. It just sounds like another XL bully bashing thread. But I forget it's Mumsnet and everyone hates them on here. Obviously the dog was allowed on the coach otherwise the driver would not let it on and an XL bully is pretty hard to hide away for 3 and a half hours also I'm sure a coach full of people would complain to the driver about the smell of canibis if it was really that bad. In fact the driver wouldn't allow it. To be honest I think it's more concerning that you think rolling spliffs constantly for 3and a half hours is secondary to a muzzled dog that was just sitting on a coach not doing anything apart from being guilty of making your precious daughter anxious. So yeah I'd say get a grip.

Moving is not complaining, although I think it would be fine for DD to speak with the driver. If the driver feels unsafe, which is bot unreasonable, he can quietly summon the police.

Exactly!

Also the fact that the driver allowed them to even board with a large dog that’s not actually allowed just proves that he himself was too afraid to do or say anything to them!

Op the best thing is to both email and call and ask what the policy is. No one should feel afraid like that and the driver should have had the confidence to stop them boarding.

He should have been confident to call the police if necessary.

I also completely understand her issue of moving or staying put.

Awful.

The bus company may not even be aware of this sort of thing.so.by raising it you will help them to define what they do.

Weird thread. The clearly entitled poster who thought the role of a parent of adults was to provide a car. People who suggest you should complain to the driver about a pile of stoned men with a dangerous dog, when they are still aboard the same transport. Yeah right, very safe and sensible!

I agree that anyone afraid to change seats shouldn’t travel alone.

But it doesn’t matter if the dog was muzzled. It wasn’t allowed on the bus, and passengers are entitled to expect that the rules around animal travel be enforced.

I would have moved and complained. She's learning

I can't understand not being willing to move seats. On long journeys people move seats all the time. How many other passengers were on this coach, were there virtually no spare seats?

I gather the dog did precisely nothing unpleasant other than exist. Was it muzzled, btw?

If it was late I quite understand she might not get a reply but I had cause to complain about an Arriva bus driver (rude,left people at stop-last bus of the day on a rural service, dangerous driving) and I got a reply to my tweet very quickly. Your poor dd. BTP should cover coaches and buses too.

Some of us are merely suggesting the girl should have moved.

If the driver was at all worried, he should have phoned the police.

I can't believe how many people are blaming a 17yo for acting "wrong" when she was terrified. FWIW she probably did exactly the right thing.

If a quiet word from the driver would have been enough to remove the men, then chances are that no one was in any danger. But if the men were actually dangerous, then that sort of intervention by an unsupported driver could 100% have triggered an awful situation.

The coach company needs better policies and training to help avoid and handle these situations.

Her age and gender are totally irrelevant. We're talking about pit bull dogs being in public when the DDA came in in 1991. Pits should not fucking exist in the UK. DEFRA majorly fucked up by ever letting them through Heathrow. How did that happen? Oh, because they are the most useless gov department known to tax payers. I worked there, it was like living in the 1950s. Put down all pitbulls right now. There is no reason not to. Unless you're a soppy cunt who thinks their right to life trumps humans. In which case, fuck you.

I’ve found national express do not stand for any nonsense but their rivals do not seem to enforce rules as much. Had vaping on the megabus a couple of years ago and people drinking on the flixbus last month whereas a few weeks ago the national express driver stopped the bus because someone opened a can of beer, must have multiple cameras. I suggest in the future she uses national express and pays the extra to reserve a seat near the driver

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You can’t possibly know that. They might not have noticed or cared. Or they might have noticed and become aggressive.

You can’t even sometimes cross the road avoiding dogs without getting a filthy look by the owner.

Owners of mutant dogs are not known for their social skills.
I had one facing me it was sat up on a seat
I moved and went upstairs on the bus but not before I was called an arsehole for moving.
This coming from the two junkies counting out their £180 drug money repeatedly after call to dealer.

So many deletions but yes this. Yanbu op.

I’ve been on trains where passengers are vaping, I hate it, but what can you do. A group of them v lone person.

She was already feeling scared.

Even if the stoned men didn't notice, the dog might have noticed sudden movement on a bus full of people sitting still.

I'm surprised no other coach passengers complained about the weed smoking, let alone the XL bully on board. I was on an ordinary single decker bus recently, and a man lit up a cigarette. The next minute, the bus had pulled over and two police officers came aboard and arrested the smoker. Coach and bus drivers are able to contact the police for assistance if they don't want to confront possibly violent and aggressive passengers on their own.