Are you now more likely to vote for REFORM (the party)

@Moonshadowmoon well it won't be in their manifesto, will it! But here you go, as an examplehttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/13/reform-matt-goodwin-fertility-comments-outcry-handmaids-tale

Well the Green believes exactly that through open borders.

@Moonshadowmoonlove, Reform are full of men that think that way about women, just because they are not brown skinned men don’t be fooled.

@GeneralPeteryou got me there! But you'll never convince me that a failed tory politician like Jenrick could restore order to our economy. As someone who is good with numbers, do you think Brexit (the brainchild of Farage) has been good for our economy and businesses? And why would Reform need to spend millions on a waste consultant if they know how to save money?

No not at all. I don’t trust any of them really but NF in particular. I was very pro remain in the EU and so his views do not align with mine.

Me too. And years ago, well before Reform existed, I did once vote for the Monster Raving Loony, because I was so fed up with the uselessness of the main parties - but I would never NOT vote.

Gender roles in the uk in the 50s obviously werent great but still miles better than modern Afghanistan.
Where does it say they want men to have dominance over women (not being argumentative I genuinely am interested to see this)

@Moonshadowmoon Reform want to get rid of equality legislation that would see gender roles go back to the 50s. They also think women should be having more children. They want white men to have dominance over womenm

You’re talking to someone that did become a mother at 16 🤷🏼‍♀️ not that I think everyone should live their life like me but this is far different to in Afghanistan where child marriage at age 12 is normal, wife beating is legal and women cannot see male doctors or become doctors themselves.

Think about how your life would be if you were a woman in Afghanistan, still think it’s a good idea to let millions of men who think that way move here?

How much were these huge cuts to social care and children’s services? £75k?

Nottinghamshire council budget: £668m. Planned cost cuts across the full budget £44m.

In that context, £75k on flags may be unnecessary but it’s much closer to my cinema ticket analogy than your one of going on a family cruise instead of lunches for a year.

It’s 0.011% of the budget of 0.2% of the cuts amount.

@Moonshadowmoon🤣🤣 and yet you are voting for a party that the white males in it wants to tell all young women to get on and reproduce. You can’t see the irony in what you are actually saying!

You didn't even answer the question!! And you are calling random ppl on the internet thick??

Reform are not prefect but their whole gimmick is to cut down immigration in a way labour and Tory failed to do.
In Afghanistan women can be beaten by their husbands, can’t study, can’t become doctors and also cant see male doctors so they basically get no medical care.
Thousands of men from Afghanistan and similar countries have moved here under labour and Tory, any intelligent educated woman would at least want to try something new rather than let the status quo continue

I wouldn’t vote for them ever.

It’s strange how the vast majority of people (online and in RL) say they would never vote Reform.

And, yet, Reform seem to be leading in every poll everywhere. 🤷‍♀️

As someone with three children and concerned about the record levels of immigration over the years this could put me off but long term safety of my children has to be prioritised.
Afghanistan has just legalised wife beating and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea to let thousands of men from places like that move here is an idiot

@GeneralPeterin that same county they are planning on making huge cuts to social care and childrens services.

Your cinema analogy is wild by the way. That is a small luxury. I would compare it more to a poor family saying sod it, let's book a cruise instead of paying for lunches for the next year.

Because competent people can have different priorities.

Many councils have spent a lot of money on identity-branding things like flags, rainbow crossings, etc. I don’t think incompetence is the right word for that: it’s a different set of political priorities driven from a different world view.

It’s like: if a family that’s short of cash spends money on taking the children to the cinema, is that “incompetent” parenting? Cinema isn’t a ‘basic’.

Maybe they are incompetent parents but knowing they bought cinema tickets isn’t enough to convict them. Especially if other similarly-situated parents are doing the same and don’t get called incompetent for it.

I'd rather choose thick than deliberately rude

@GeneralPeterhow is spending £75000 on flags NOT about incompetence when Reform are always banging on about how strapped for cash the country is? If you don't have money for the basics and are making cuts because of it, don't spend it on things that arent needed.

Absolutely not. I can’t understand why anyone would vote for them unless they are just filled with hatred for anyone who isn’t white. Their beliefs and policies would be awful and harmful for our country.

Though actually your examples aren’t really of incompetence but of different priorities. I don’t really want £75k spent on flags any more than I wanted millions spent on different flags by other parties. But mainly I want us to stop rearranging deckchairs and focus on fixing the fundamental broken growth engine. Then we can debate how to distribute the prosperity and what colour to paint it.

Yes that’s one of my major worries about Reform. There are some bits of policy I like, but I doubt they will be able to deliver competent government. At central level more concerning to me than local.

I’m pretty close to being a single-issue voter on economic growth at this point. I was very hopeful that Starmer would do it but they have been dismal.

@GeneralPeter as you're more likely to vote Reform becausr of a more 'sensible' looking repackaged Tory, I'll just hit you with some real time nuggets from local councils. In Notts they recently spent £75000 on flags. In Leics they have spent millions on a waste consultant. The policy on the 2 child benefit cap will apparently mean they are offering cheaper pints rather than saving lots of money. Cheaper pints vs food/clothing/heating for kids. Please don't be swayed by this rubbish.

@MikeRafoneare you a bit thick? The Tories!