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“Everybody thought the EU was about people coming into the country … no-one told of us the benefits”.

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MrsMurphyIWish · 18/02/2026 07:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2136jnjx1o

And the response to this very now deprived community is to vote Reform.

“Brexit has removed a key source of funding, which the area desperately needs. County Durham received £154m of EU funding between 2014 and 2020, about £22m a year. Since the UK left the European Union, it receives about half that amount, £12m annually, under the UK Shared Prosperity Fund.”

The story is sad (and typical of deprived areas - I know, I live in one). Towns feeling forgotten and never recovering from closed industry but why can they not see history will repeat itself?

A row of red-brick houses with almost every window and door boarded up

Inside Horden, the County Durham town failed by politics

In Horden, County Durham, Westminster slogans have long been left unmet as the population has plummeted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2136jnjx1o

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CaptainMyCaptain · 18/02/2026 09:28

Imdunfer · 18/02/2026 09:26

The signs were everywhere.

Even the farm up the road that had a grant to put in a café had the signs it was EU funded.

It was a mandatory requirement of receiving funding from the EU.

There are plenty of those signs where I live in the UK. A former mining area.

Imdunfer · 18/02/2026 09:27

SerendipityJane · 18/02/2026 09:24

But what has happened to the £72 billion we have not paid out in EU contributions?

Looks at the £500 billion we have lost in GDP ....

Looks at the fact we were performing better economically than the big EU countries until recently.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/02/2026 09:27

DeftWasp · 18/02/2026 09:24

So, you honestly believe that manufacturing and selling goods is akin to slavery? That's a very odd point of view.

So a company still doing well in the UK is Numatic, who make Henry Vacuum Cleaners in Somerset. Another in the area OP is talking about is Ebac, who make Washing Machines

Are you honestly suggesting that an activity such as making vacuum cleaners in Somerset, or Washing Machines in County Durham, in 2026, by two companies established in the mid 20th century has anything remotely to do with Slavery?

It's an insane theory. So slavery happened but has been illegal for a very long time do we just abandon all industry now?

Imdunfer · 18/02/2026 09:26

Chicaontour · 18/02/2026 09:12

I live in Ireland and we would see signs "Road funded by EU etc" but i never saw aimilar signs in the UK. Not that they werent funded just that the EU assistance wasnt publicised.

Brexit made rich men richer and the poor poorer. Thats not to say that there arent problems in Europe.

The signs were everywhere.

Even the farm up the road that had a grant to put in a café had the signs it was EU funded.

It was a mandatory requirement of receiving funding from the EU.

TopPocketFind · 18/02/2026 09:25

Winter2020 · 18/02/2026 08:21

Yes and the politicians betrayed the people by allowing more immigration than ever, and I'm not talking about the difficult to tackle boats but the completely in our control rubber stamping visas. So now a lot of people are still looking for someone to control our borders.

Yes we haven't seen the benefits of Brexit because the politicians made sure of that by ignoring the will of the people.

The will of the people was not ignored,

Brexit happened, the UK left the EU,

that was exactly what people voted for.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 18/02/2026 09:24

Cucumberino · 18/02/2026 09:13

Were the community fully informed of the advantages of the EU or were they ignored as nasty illiterate bigots?

Alternatively, were the community fully informed of the advantages of the EU or did they ignore that information because they were taken in by the fear-mongering of those who used immigration as a wedge issue to push their agenda? If so, why was immigration such a powerful tool in influencing these voters?

DeftWasp · 18/02/2026 09:24

SerendipityJane · 18/02/2026 09:04

Depends what you are comparing.

The are spelled differently, I grant you that.

So, you honestly believe that manufacturing and selling goods is akin to slavery? That's a very odd point of view.

So a company still doing well in the UK is Numatic, who make Henry Vacuum Cleaners in Somerset. Another in the area OP is talking about is Ebac, who make Washing Machines

Are you honestly suggesting that an activity such as making vacuum cleaners in Somerset, or Washing Machines in County Durham, in 2026, by two companies established in the mid 20th century has anything remotely to do with Slavery?

SerendipityJane · 18/02/2026 09:24

But what has happened to the £72 billion we have not paid out in EU contributions?

Looks at the £500 billion we have lost in GDP ....

Katiesaidthat · 18/02/2026 09:23

Chicaontour · 18/02/2026 09:12

I live in Ireland and we would see signs "Road funded by EU etc" but i never saw aimilar signs in the UK. Not that they werent funded just that the EU assistance wasnt publicised.

Brexit made rich men richer and the poor poorer. Thats not to say that there arent problems in Europe.

My aunt lives in the South East, I don´t remember seeing signs there. I stayed at Wallsend near Newcastle during my Erasmus year and the place was chock a block with signs saying this [insert project] is funded by the European regional development fund. My landlady was telling us that there is no way the council could pay for these projects alone. Also, I think it was a sports centre, was funded by Sting, who´s from Wallsend. I wonder how they are doing now.

Brefugee · 18/02/2026 09:22

I am not a fan of Brexit. Quite the opposite.

But. We did warn everyone. We were dismissed as Project Fear.

It is now 7 years on and it is way past time to start rebuilding. And yes, the whole Covid thing got in the way, but that was a perfect opportunity for the UK government to test its robustness, and make plans for afterwards.

The regions are always ignored by government, it doesn't matter who is in power. You need better MPs to represent those constituencies.

But also. Brexit has a kind of rat-tail of unexpected/unintended/unanticipated consequences that just keep adding to the issues. A lot of relatively low-level things (paperwork, passports to get in the country etc etc) that are mounting up because they are being drip-fed into everyone's consciousness.

Add in Trump's USA, and it is time the UK started making serious overtures to Europe to work together to make the region stronger. Economically as well as socially. Not to mention defensively.

Alexandra2001 · 18/02/2026 09:21

Femalemachinest · 18/02/2026 07:05

Exactly. All this brexit stiff is getting a bit old now. The whole world went into decline for version reasons but people only see what they want

Cornwall used to get billions in EU funding, now it gets around 10% of that.

Sure you can blame it all on Covid and Ukraine but the bottom line is Brexit is now seen as a mistake by the majority.

But what has happened to the £72 billion we have not paid out in EU contributions?

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/02/2026 09:21

Thechaseison71 · 18/02/2026 09:01

Wonder how Ireland can have joined the EU 20 years before it was in existence

A quick Google brings up the history of Ireland in the EU and this Ireland became a member of the European Communities on New Year’s Day 1973Following General de Gaulle’s resignation on 28 April 1969, European Community enlargement again became possible for Ireland.
It used to be called the Common Market. The UK also joined the Common Market in 1973. I remember writing an essay about it in the 6th Form.

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 18/02/2026 09:19

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 18/02/2026 09:05

Think people forget that it wasn't EU "funding" individual projects for our towns and cities, it was our money in the first place, they just "directed" where spending should go.
Boris did indeed lie about where this money would/did go
I cannot believe the amount of short-sighted thickos who are going to vote Farage 😱
We're a doomed

People would believe any rubbish or lie Boris said because well he's the "lovely" Boris.

He is one of those people who can charm people into doing a variety of wrong things - like Farage, Mandelson and Trump they have the gift of the gab.

gamerchick · 18/02/2026 09:19

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 18/02/2026 07:09

Should these towns just be funded indefinitely?

What would you suggest?

StrawberrySquash · 18/02/2026 09:19

FreeWheezin · 18/02/2026 07:32

No you were fine to mention Brexit. We have a weirdly short term memory in the UK with politics, and dont seem to grasp that political decisions will affect a country for decades. The creation of the NHS is a reason boomers have a great life expectancy today, but also why we spend more on adult social care and one reason houses are not becoming available for younger generations. Decisions to only build where there is already infrastructure has created densely packed towns and cities with a severe lack of doctors, dentists and school places for children. Brexit has led to deprived communities being even worse off, and also left the UK alone and fragile during escalating global tensions which is what it was designed to do. Voting for Reform is like mixing two unknown compounds and wondering what will happen. It may be exciting for one election period, but who knows what the domino effect will be for decades to come.

Exactly! Stuff that happened in the past matters! One of the big problems affecting the area in the article is the pits closing down - more than forty years ago. And no new economic opportunities taking their place.

Katiesaidthat · 18/02/2026 09:19

Thechaseison71 · 18/02/2026 09:01

Wonder how Ireland can have joined the EU 20 years before it was in existence

The EU was the EEC before that.

Skybunnee · 18/02/2026 09:18

We shouldn’t have brexited but I don’t see the EU as some happy band -I mean Hungary is in the EU. How much have they come together to fight Russia. All with differing policies on immigration. French still getting in a state over fishing. Not that great

Cucumberino · 18/02/2026 09:17

CanIRetirePlease · 18/02/2026 09:14

Yes I recall a TV interviewer catching people on the way into a leisure/activity centre asking people about Brexit … Loads of people saying “the EU does nothing for us, it just takes our money and stops us funding the NHS”

The interviewer did the interview in front of a sign that literally said “This centre received £2m of funding from the European Regional Development Fund”

Hilarious. People select what facts fit their narrative - it’s human nature.

If they were fully informed of the benefits and chose to ignore them then they brought it on themselves.

I do think we need to highlight the truthfulness of politicians arguments more widely though. At each general election the IFS does a nice filleting of every parties manifesto pledges and calls out what’s pie in the sky (ie total bollocks) and what isn’t. This needs to be done more widely to ensure people are fully informed as to what they are voting for.

80smonster · 18/02/2026 09:17

That’s what happens when those who do not understand politics vote the country down the toilet. Sure - let’s allow hardcore racists with little income and an axe to grind - decide the UK’s fate. I still blame that dish-faced wanker Cameron, who thought voters wouldn’t be that pig shit thick. Hah! Think again Cameron.

SerendipityJane · 18/02/2026 09:16

Chicaontour · 18/02/2026 09:12

I live in Ireland and we would see signs "Road funded by EU etc" but i never saw aimilar signs in the UK. Not that they werent funded just that the EU assistance wasnt publicised.

Brexit made rich men richer and the poor poorer. Thats not to say that there arent problems in Europe.

Every job I worked in since 1996 had me working in a company that displayed EU funding or integration posters. Mainly because they had enrolled in the local authorities EU funded environmental schemes.

There is none as blind as those that won't see.

CanIRetirePlease · 18/02/2026 09:14

dudsville · 18/02/2026 07:07

I actually do recall the funding loss being discussed widely. Just saying.

Yes I recall a TV interviewer catching people on the way into a leisure/activity centre asking people about Brexit … Loads of people saying “the EU does nothing for us, it just takes our money and stops us funding the NHS”

The interviewer did the interview in front of a sign that literally said “This centre received £2m of funding from the European Regional Development Fund”

Hilarious. People select what facts fit their narrative - it’s human nature.

Cucumberino · 18/02/2026 09:13

Were the community fully informed of the advantages of the EU or were they ignored as nasty illiterate bigots?

Chicaontour · 18/02/2026 09:12

I live in Ireland and we would see signs "Road funded by EU etc" but i never saw aimilar signs in the UK. Not that they werent funded just that the EU assistance wasnt publicised.

Brexit made rich men richer and the poor poorer. Thats not to say that there arent problems in Europe.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 18/02/2026 09:10

"We've just realised we were lied to about Brexit. Let's all vote for the bloke who told us those lies!"

FFS.

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