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To end my marriage tomorrow

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Shedding123 · 17/02/2026 21:27

Apologies for the dear Deirdre style title. Sat in shock on couch and just need a quick unbiased metaphorical talking to here.
DH and I been struggling for a long time now, stress of 2 kids one with physical disability and one with mental health challenges. Anger has been simmering in him for a while, he’s made digs about putting the kids first, not meeting his needs (we no longer share a room as I’m in with our dd who is on oxygen overnight and I can’t sleep unless I’m next to her, this is one of many many many examples).
we’ve been bumbling along essentially as flatmates under the same roof and I guess I thought once things more stable with the kids things might improve. Anyway it all kicked off tonight and I’m utterly devastated. We are away for half term in a placr
dear to our hearts and he’s been so moody for the last few days. Tonight the kids were squabbling and I eventually
had enough trying to deal with it solo so went into the room he’s been in all evening reading and asked if he was planning on coming to help me at all. Passive aggressiveness never good, I know. He lost it, stormed through, swore at the kids, my daughter told him it’s not nice to swear and he just started ranting on about how she’s too much like me, rude, how dare I be so rude to him, how dare I blame everything on him, I asked him calmly to stop in front of the kids and said this needs to be an adult
conversation between us and he laughed and said no chance, it’s good for the kids to hear how manipulative I am. It was horrendous. Our daughter was crying, our son was just stuck begging it to stop. He then calmly put the kettle on and handed me a cup of tea and told me to be grateful and is now reading in the other room again. I have no idea how a divorce would work, he is 68 so has said in spiteful moments he will retire if I leave him so he won’t pay anything, I earn low as am a carer for our daughter, I literally cannot imagine how we could run 2 houses. But there is no coming back from tonight is there? I know he will blame it all on me to the children but this feels so abusive towards them too having had to sit through that😭

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CalmAzureMaker · 18/02/2026 21:25

Don’t worry about the children too much, kids bounce, they really do. Especially if their family is generally happy and steady.

It must feel impossible sometimes with all the additional needs. You both must feel mad with all the stress.

Do you still love each other? Is he genuinely sorry to you and the children?

marriage isn’t all hearts and flowers and instagram shots all the time.It’s sometimes bloody hard work.
It’s good for children to learn that too.

though I get it’s crap that you’ve had this huge row on holiday… just a bad holiday, though , we all have those, even though people don’t talk about them.

it doesn’t have to portend anything else unless you need it too.

ThiagoJones · 18/02/2026 21:23

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:27

He’s 68 years of age. 4 times is more than some people have to get up for a newborn at less than half his age. He also has to go to work the next day.
They could still be intimate & then split up.

I feel for both OP & DH in what feels like an impossibly difficult situation.

Yes I’m aware of that. I also have a disabled child who still wakes multiple times a night, and has done for 8 years. I know how hard that is, and the OP is taking on that burden all by herself. I’m not surprised she doesn’t feel up to a quick shag before she starts her night shift of caring, alongside her day job.
Yes it’s hard. Yes he’s old. It’s also his child, and you have to step up for the children you chose to have.

loislovesstewie · 18/02/2026 21:22

68 is old. I'm that age and truthfully, I can't do things as fast or as long as I did 5 or 10 years ago. When I was younger I looked at men that age and thought ' God you are slow, what's wrong with you'. Well, it creeps up on you. You find you can't do the same things. Socializing, having a hobby isn't the same as working. I know I couldn't look after kids full time anymore. FWIW I have 2 adult children living with me, they both have disabilities. It's knackering despite the fact that they are adults.
I'm not making excuses for him, just stating that 68 is, actually, old.

sharkstale · 18/02/2026 21:21

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 21:04

But you said in one of your posts you think he is more tired in the last while & the kids demand a lot, but by the sounds of things he doesn’t do a huge amount with them anyway. So would he be able to cope with getting up in the night?

I think your blind spot almost about his age really isn’t helping. At your age you can’t understand what it feels like to be 27 years older.

Maybe and it’s just my theory obviously if you approached it with an understanding that he might have less ability to cope it might help you feel less frustrated.

I'm not excusing any of the things I've read throughout this thread (the loan for medical expenses, hiding 2k a month etc), but I have to agree with the age thing. My mum is 68 and is going bloody good for her age, but she finds one night with my dd (age 9) absolutely exhausting. She used to have her over for a weekend (Fri and Sat nights) now and then, but a while back that changed to one night sleepovers as she's too old now to do it.

Warmlight1 · 18/02/2026 21:15

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 11:53

Responsible adults within a relationship, who love and respect each other, take responsibility for each others’ behaviour if they recognise that they are even partly the cause of it. If a man posted as OP has here, he’d be handed his arse on a plate for allowing the relationship to deteriorate to the point where his partner had to have a melt down in order to get his attention. There is fault on both sides. If her husband felt listened to he wouldn’t have exploded in front of his children - that’s a last resort when the pent up anger and resentment has reached boiling point. Why does he refer to her as manipulative and rude ? Why do you think that only the woman is allowed a point of view here ?

Two things stood out for me here. The fact that OP insists on sleeping with her DD every night. As far as I can see there is no actual medical need for this - OP admits she can’t sleep unless she is next to her. She also admits that they have been co-parenting essentially as house mates. This will undoubtedly have been a factor in DH’s outburst. It sounds to me as though he has tried to approach this in the past and has been stonewalled because OP is entirely focused on the children, to the exclusion of all else. And that isn’t a healthy foundation for any marriage either.

"If her husband felt listened to he wouldn’t have exploded in front of his children - that’s a last resort when the pent up"
I do not think this follows. Plenty people explode and it's not because of the people they've exploded at.

Holycowhowmuch · 18/02/2026 21:10

To divorce you have to have a financial settlement statement taking into account needs and allocating assets a mediation service is used by some solicitors. The mediation person sorts and allocates to the same rules as the judge. Proof of monies pensions savings et are required. Money removed isnt taken into account so proof now before solicitor may safeguard yourself.

Holycowhowmuch · 18/02/2026 21:10

To divorce you have to have a financial settlement statement taking into account needs and allocating assets a mediation service is used by some solicitors. The mediation person sorts and allocates to the same rules as the judge. Proof of monies pensions savings et are required. Money removed isnt taken into account so proof now before solicitor may safeguard yourself.

missspent · 18/02/2026 21:07

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 19:18

For those with addiction knowledge/experience- is work addiction a likely move on addiction after a period of sobriety from alcohol? And now the 3-4 bottles on non alcoholic wine each night? I only highlight that as I so clearly remember him telling me years ago that non -alcoholic drinks are not allowed in AA fellowship

That is a lot of non alcoholic wine. There is a small amount of booze n most of them (like 0.5%) so it feels like he’s trying to get some buzz from them by having so much. Are you sure that they are definitely 0% and he’s not filling them with alcohol on the way home?

The reason that they are not recommended in recovery is that they are a slippery slope back to booze. They give you the taste and have some alcohol in them so it is only a skip and a jump back to the normal stuff

ThisOldThang · 18/02/2026 21:05

LaurieFairyCake · 18/02/2026 21:03

its a good thing he’s addicted to work, that means he won’t retire when you leave

and if he does you will get child support through his pension. Flowers

Somebody else posted up thread that Child Maintenance is only £3.50 if the person is retired.

Jacopo · 18/02/2026 21:05

Some great advice here OP. Please see a solicitor asap before doing anything, and be mindful of the advice upthread about ensuring that he cannot take his lump sum out of the equation. You need legal help to protect your children’s future. Good luck.

MiserableMrsMopp · 18/02/2026 21:04

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:55

I don’t think it’s ancient, no! He’s fit and well and enjoys work, hobbies, socialising, he just doesn’t seem exhausted, in fact he mostly complains of feeling bored at home. and I think if you choose to have kids you have to dig deep when it gets hard / tiring / not what you thought 9 years on no matter what age.

Given that UK life expectancy for men is 79, he's definitely old.

I mean, I get that he was horrible. But he's an old man. I think you need to adjust your expectations if you plan to stay married. Personally, it sounds to me as if you'd both be better off alone.

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 21:04

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:55

I don’t think it’s ancient, no! He’s fit and well and enjoys work, hobbies, socialising, he just doesn’t seem exhausted, in fact he mostly complains of feeling bored at home. and I think if you choose to have kids you have to dig deep when it gets hard / tiring / not what you thought 9 years on no matter what age.

But you said in one of your posts you think he is more tired in the last while & the kids demand a lot, but by the sounds of things he doesn’t do a huge amount with them anyway. So would he be able to cope with getting up in the night?

I think your blind spot almost about his age really isn’t helping. At your age you can’t understand what it feels like to be 27 years older.

Maybe and it’s just my theory obviously if you approached it with an understanding that he might have less ability to cope it might help you feel less frustrated.

LaurieFairyCake · 18/02/2026 21:03

its a good thing he’s addicted to work, that means he won’t retire when you leave

and if he does you will get child support through his pension. Flowers

ThatCyanCat · 18/02/2026 20:59

ThisOldThang · 18/02/2026 20:52

I think you need to calm down.

I forget sometimes that blokes like this honestly don't realise how much we hear this shite and they honestly think it's original and funny, or at least incredibly cutting.

Let me guess, your dog has no nose?

berightorbehappy · 18/02/2026 20:58

I’m in AA ( 18 years ) and his behaviour goes against how people in recovery normally act ..is he still attending meetings ? He might need some people outside of the home to talk to . Has he still got a sponsor ? If he hasn’t relapsed , he’s acting like a “dry drunk” and it’s emotionally unsafe for you and your children . Who wants to be waiting around for the next inappropriate outburst ! Don’t put up with this , if he can’t show regret for how he acted then he’s in denial about the impact his behaviour is having and unless he wants to sit and talk reasonably then plan to break up. No one should put up with this anger. It will be hard but you sound like you’re made of strong stuff and you WILL cope somehow. Good luck.

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:55

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:51

Are you saying that 68 is not old? it is when you are talking about caring for two children with additional needs. Enjoying yourself with your mates isn’t comparable.

And when he said he’d step up to have kids, he may well have meant it but ten years later have found he can’t deliver.

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I don’t think it’s ancient, no! He’s fit and well and enjoys work, hobbies, socialising, he just doesn’t seem exhausted, in fact he mostly complains of feeling bored at home. and I think if you choose to have kids you have to dig deep when it gets hard / tiring / not what you thought 9 years on no matter what age.

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ThisOldThang · 18/02/2026 20:52

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 18/02/2026 18:30

Are you tired from pretzeling yourself for hours trying to defend this indefensible old creep?

This prince who deliberately created 2 children in his late 50s and early 60s with his alcohol- and age-damaged sperm, who now openly resents and despises those children, who shouts at his 9 yo disabled child to the point the child is shaking with fear, who constantly imposes his moods and lability on the whole family and makes everyone tense, who abuses his wife verbally and emotionally, who is a sex pest, who won't pay for a treatment that eases his disabled child's symptoms, who is CLEARLY hiding money and god knows what else from his wife, and who is almost certainly back to the drink.

You've come up with every reason in the book to excuse him: you've claimed his 9 yo CHILD "made" him shout because she's "manipulative"; that OP "indulges" her disabled child - who needs assistance FOUR times a night to breath FFS; that OP is prioritising her DISABLED children over him, a healthy adult man; that in fact OP is selfishly prioritising her children because "it makes her feel better, not because her daughter needs her to"; that OP must have done something to make her unstable alcoholic H threaten to retire if she divorced him; that OP was financially abusive to her H for choosing to pay for a medical treatment that makes life easier for THEIR child.

It's a marvellous example of reflexive misogynistic thinking. This shows how some people will twist themselves into knots - to the point of complete irrationality - in defense of selfish angry men who not only don't control themselves or take accountability for their behaviour but also think they are JUSTIFIED in behaving vilely.

And your misogny was also on display when you said to @ThatCyanCat, in response to her well-reasoned rebuttal of your pretzeling and trying to blame OP for this loser's behavior:

"your post is just bonkers ranting"

Are you actually capable of seeing your misogyny?

I think you need to calm down.

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:51

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:45

But he sleeps 8 hours a night, he wanted a second child and most importantly he is not tired enough to choose to work extra for free, hobby twice a week and socialise and have a hobby trip week away each year. That doesn’t SCREAM exhaustion to me.

Are you saying that 68 is not old? it is when you are talking about caring for two children with additional needs. Enjoying yourself with your mates isn’t comparable.

And when he said he’d step up to have kids, he may well have meant it but ten years later have found he can’t deliver.

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:49

Ihavesomeideas · 18/02/2026 20:46

What does he do for a living that he stays late every night ? And you say pops into work for a couple of hours on weekends? Are you sure that's where he is? You sound like an amazingly supportive Mother and I wish you happiness going forward.

i don’t want to be too outing so I’ll say vaguely nhs management. He absolutely does not need to work past his contract hours, that is a choice.
and thank you so so much for being so kind about me as a mum.

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Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:47

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:46

I know you do, I was responding to another post that said he should pitch in. And to some extent he should. But he is 68.

Id do the same btw if I had to wake up 4 times a night there’s no way I wouldn’t be in the bed beside DD.

I really feel for you. But I do wonder, abusive comments aside, if you expect more than a 68 year old can realistically give.

I'm so sorry. Trying and risking to do too many things at once!

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Ihavesomeideas · 18/02/2026 20:46

What does he do for a living that he stays late every night ? And you say pops into work for a couple of hours on weekends? Are you sure that's where he is? You sound like an amazingly supportive Mother and I wish you happiness going forward.

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:46

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:43

I’m not sure what you mean? He doesn’t get up with her, I do, and 4 walks from one room to the next across the admittedly small landing was killing me each night so at least now I just have to roll over to check and reset/ resettle. I also work full time just from home (I could earn a bit more doing my job F2F but can’t fathom that working with the amount of medical admin i am able to do working from home and count myself very lucky for that).
The idea of padding between my DD room to shag DH is just mad to me, when he isn’t very kind in these outburst moments which happen more and more frequently now, though last night was the first one he wouldn’t stop in front of the kids and brought DD into it (indeed snarled at her)

I know you do, I was responding to another post that said he should pitch in. And to some extent he should. But he is 68.

Id do the same btw if I had to wake up 4 times a night there’s no way I wouldn’t be in the bed beside DD.

I really feel for you. But I do wonder, abusive comments aside, if you expect more than a 68 year old can realistically give.

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 20:45

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:43

I’ve read almost all the OP’s posts. And as I said in the post you’ve quoted I feel for her

68 is old to have a 9 year old, in fact it’s very old to have a 9 year old. The vast majority of 68 year olds are granddads not dads. Listing famous men with huge resources adds nothing to the argument. Look at Alec Baldwin. Nannies up to his eyeballs & the man looks broken with exhaustion.

But he sleeps 8 hours a night, he wanted a second child and most importantly he is not tired enough to choose to work extra for free, hobby twice a week and socialise and have a hobby trip week away each year. That doesn’t SCREAM exhaustion to me.

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SadSisterOfAlcoholic · 18/02/2026 20:44

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 19:18

For those with addiction knowledge/experience- is work addiction a likely move on addiction after a period of sobriety from alcohol? And now the 3-4 bottles on non alcoholic wine each night? I only highlight that as I so clearly remember him telling me years ago that non -alcoholic drinks are not allowed in AA fellowship

Are you sure the non-alcoholic wine bottle still contains non-alcoholic wine? My brother would have tipped the non-alcoholic wine away and refilled with wine behind his wife’s back so he could pretend he wasn’t drinking alcohol.

the7Vabo · 18/02/2026 20:43

Ninerainbows · 18/02/2026 20:31

Did you read that the OP works too? Oh of course not, why am I even asking.

You know who else is in their 60s? Gary Lineker. Brad Pitt. Colin Firth. 68 and well enough to work 7 days a week, go on holiday alone and socialise several times a week is not an old man.

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I’ve read almost all the OP’s posts. And as I said in the post you’ve quoted I feel for her

68 is old to have a 9 year old, in fact it’s very old to have a 9 year old. The vast majority of 68 year olds are granddads not dads. Listing famous men with huge resources adds nothing to the argument. Look at Alec Baldwin. Nannies up to his eyeballs & the man looks broken with exhaustion.