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Shedding123 · 17/02/2026 21:27

Apologies for the dear Deirdre style title. Sat in shock on couch and just need a quick unbiased metaphorical talking to here.
DH and I been struggling for a long time now, stress of 2 kids one with physical disability and one with mental health challenges. Anger has been simmering in him for a while, he’s made digs about putting the kids first, not meeting his needs (we no longer share a room as I’m in with our dd who is on oxygen overnight and I can’t sleep unless I’m next to her, this is one of many many many examples).
we’ve been bumbling along essentially as flatmates under the same roof and I guess I thought once things more stable with the kids things might improve. Anyway it all kicked off tonight and I’m utterly devastated. We are away for half term in a placr
dear to our hearts and he’s been so moody for the last few days. Tonight the kids were squabbling and I eventually
had enough trying to deal with it solo so went into the room he’s been in all evening reading and asked if he was planning on coming to help me at all. Passive aggressiveness never good, I know. He lost it, stormed through, swore at the kids, my daughter told him it’s not nice to swear and he just started ranting on about how she’s too much like me, rude, how dare I be so rude to him, how dare I blame everything on him, I asked him calmly to stop in front of the kids and said this needs to be an adult
conversation between us and he laughed and said no chance, it’s good for the kids to hear how manipulative I am. It was horrendous. Our daughter was crying, our son was just stuck begging it to stop. He then calmly put the kettle on and handed me a cup of tea and told me to be grateful and is now reading in the other room again. I have no idea how a divorce would work, he is 68 so has said in spiteful moments he will retire if I leave him so he won’t pay anything, I earn low as am a carer for our daughter, I literally cannot imagine how we could run 2 houses. But there is no coming back from tonight is there? I know he will blame it all on me to the children but this feels so abusive towards them too having had to sit through that😭

OP posts:
2026Y · 18/02/2026 14:18

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:16

I remember him saying early on that 0% drinks are a slippery slope in recovery. He drinks around 3-4 a night and this does worry me.

Non-alcoholic wine is for non-alcoholics, is the phrase often used in recovery.

Im not sure how much it matters to your relationship but I’d want to know in terms of the kids future care if he’s drinking. I’d take a sneaky sip of his drink every now and then if I was you…

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:16

Pikachu150 · 18/02/2026 14:14

The acting like nothing has happened the next day really reminds me of my ex secret drinking alcoholic husband. He probably doesn't really remember what he said. You mentioned that he's drinking 0% wine and that makes me suspicious too. My ex used to have a 0% bottle out on display so I would think that was in the glass but actually he was drinking alcoholic wine.

I remember him saying early on that 0% drinks are a slippery slope in recovery. He drinks around 3-4 a night and this does worry me.

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Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:15

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 12:22

So he has no point of view at all ? He just has to put up with the home situation as OP sees fit to handle it - which is prioritising the children above everything else, even when elements of that are her own choice rather than a necessity. Not buying it. I haven’t seen a single thing in any of OP’s posts indicating that she’s even thought about the effects of the situation on her DH. The fact is that he’s now an old man trying to grapple with having two significantly disabled young children.

At 41 OP can’t possibly know how it feels to be 68 and if he’s tried to talk to her previously about his feelings and been dismissed, as I suspect is the case, simply from OP’s attitude in her posts, then it was always going to be the case that the resentment would boil over and there would be a huge melt down.

I’m not saying he was right to behave the way he did, but it’s understandable and trying to exonerate OP from whatever part she’s played in his outburst - some of which is clearly indicated in her posts - by saying that he’s reacted as he has purely because he’s a man, is ridiculous and misandrist. If a man posted as OP has here, he’d be handed his arse for allowing his wife to get to the point where she had to have a meltdown to get his attention.

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Actually yes. I do think he has to accept he is second place when our children have high medical and support needs. I’m sure he is tired. But we talked about this pre- kids and he was adamant he would pull his socks up and parent despite age. I’d be a lot less child focused if he came home earlier, cared less about mess, helped bond with the kids more and be less angry. I think then there would or Could have been more intimacy from me.

OP posts:
Pikachu150 · 18/02/2026 14:14

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:05

Sorry i cant reply to all the posts, wish I could. Odd day here, travelled back and he just acted like NOTHING had happened. Morning kids, morning (me). Totally fine. Home now and I’ve taken out kids for fresh air post drive. DD has said once why did daddy call you a f’ing idiot? I couldn’t answer her as was worried I would start crying and not stop.
i will try and answer some questions that keep coming up-
why did I marry him?
I loved him. I fell head over heels; we met through work. He was charismatic, very clever and the kind of person everyone is drawn to. Amazing story of addiction - recovery, bad boy turned good. We shared a love of extreme sports and it just all felt wonderful. Our kids were planned and much wanted. I think he always struggled with their health issues, eg denied any problems until they were in front of him on a black and white medical report. I felt very alone at these times and took on role of primary carer.
I sleep in with DD partly for my own peace of mind and partly because her alarms go off roughly 3-4 times nightly and having to move from one bedroom to the next 4
times a night is impossible so I sleep in with her. Does he feel neglected? Yes. Did he help himself by openly showing disgust when I put on weight? No. He also chooses to stay on at work until 7/8 though could finish earlier as he finds “home boring” and says the kids only want me. He absolutely could make an effort more with them and eg cook dinner but chooses not to.
maybe I was foolish for having kids with an older man, but I lost my dear dad in his early 50’s. I don’t think young age = safety. Our dd condition is not chromosome related.
medical loan was for a therapy that helped that sadly stopped being available on the nhs 5 years ago. He don’t want to do it. I would do anything in my power to ease her symptoms.
I do put the kids first which I know will break many relationships. I also do believe he feels neglected but to me this necessitates a calm, grown conversation if he isn’t happy with family life, not losing his temper and then acting like it didn’t happen. I think it takes a special couple to parent through serious health and SEN needs and we have clearly failed.

The acting like nothing has happened the next day really reminds me of my ex secret drinking alcoholic husband. He probably doesn't really remember what he said. You mentioned that he's drinking 0% wine and that makes me suspicious too. My ex used to have a 0% bottle out on display so I would think that was in the glass but actually he was drinking alcoholic wine.

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:08

Also.
huge thanks for the very kind comments about me being a good mum. I try, and often feel I get it wrong. Medical mum stuff can feel relentlessly hard and I don’t feel I’m ever good enough as I can’t make life simple for my 2 kids. Wish I could.

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Starlight7080 · 18/02/2026 14:06

He is to old and selfish to cope with young children . Especially ones with additional needs.
This is one main reason not to marry and have kids with older men. You know they are selfish from get go. Why else do they need a relationship with much younger people. They often have left previous wife/kids after not coping with the responsibility.
He sounds awful.
You are obviously a brilliant mum who is trying her best given his lack of support.
No point staying with him. He will want to you to care for him and it sounds like you will have your hands full with your daughter.
He isnt going to change he will only get more selfish.

Shedding123 · 18/02/2026 14:05

Sorry i cant reply to all the posts, wish I could. Odd day here, travelled back and he just acted like NOTHING had happened. Morning kids, morning (me). Totally fine. Home now and I’ve taken out kids for fresh air post drive. DD has said once why did daddy call you a f’ing idiot? I couldn’t answer her as was worried I would start crying and not stop.
i will try and answer some questions that keep coming up-
why did I marry him?
I loved him. I fell head over heels; we met through work. He was charismatic, very clever and the kind of person everyone is drawn to. Amazing story of addiction - recovery, bad boy turned good. We shared a love of extreme sports and it just all felt wonderful. Our kids were planned and much wanted. I think he always struggled with their health issues, eg denied any problems until they were in front of him on a black and white medical report. I felt very alone at these times and took on role of primary carer.
I sleep in with DD partly for my own peace of mind and partly because her alarms go off roughly 3-4 times nightly and having to move from one bedroom to the next 4
times a night is impossible so I sleep in with her. Does he feel neglected? Yes. Did he help himself by openly showing disgust when I put on weight? No. He also chooses to stay on at work until 7/8 though could finish earlier as he finds “home boring” and says the kids only want me. He absolutely could make an effort more with them and eg cook dinner but chooses not to.
maybe I was foolish for having kids with an older man, but I lost my dear dad in his early 50’s. I don’t think young age = safety. Our dd condition is not chromosome related.
medical loan was for a therapy that helped that sadly stopped being available on the nhs 5 years ago. He don’t want to do it. I would do anything in my power to ease her symptoms.
I do put the kids first which I know will break many relationships. I also do believe he feels neglected but to me this necessitates a calm, grown conversation if he isn’t happy with family life, not losing his temper and then acting like it didn’t happen. I think it takes a special couple to parent through serious health and SEN needs and we have clearly failed.

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LividArse · 18/02/2026 13:59

Hi OP. I was once married to an addict and I would say from the info you’ve given that he’s absolutely relapsed.

You said you missed the signs once. I also once missed it, until one day I found one vodka bottle and then found about thirty empties hidden around the house once I started looking. Even stuffed in the lining of the sofa.

Hiding away and “reading” is very likely not just reading. It doesn’t make a difference, you should leave him anyway, but I think this is probably going on under your nose.

Hugs. I’m twice divorced now and have started from scratch twice. It’s hard but it gets infinitely better.

researchers3 · 18/02/2026 13:56

Apologies if anyone else has said this but debts come out of marital pot before things are carved up.

That is a huge age gap. No wonder he is tired but absolutely no excuse to treat you and your children so horribly.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 18/02/2026 13:56

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:30

It’s not saying that at all. It’s questioning why the mother of two disabled children who spends her days working full time and looking after them, and who would be understandably exhausted by that, would choose to spend her nights doing essentially the same thing for her daughter when there is no medical need. I think anyone who can’t see that from the point of view of her DH is being obtuse. It’s not even about sex, it’s about intimacy, spending time together and allowing her DH to take care of her.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that doesn't mean an absolute right to express it though nor to have everyone else agree with it. Maybe having expressed that opinion you could have the good grace to let it lie instead of completely derailing the thread arguing ad infinitum. The OP came here for support, not to be judged, not to be challenged on past decisions and sure as hell not for people to blindly guess at what else may or may not be going on in her private life.

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2026 13:54

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:48

Show me where in any of my posts I have said this. OP says herself that the only reason she sleeps in her daughter’s room is because it makes her feel better - she can’t sleep otherwise. It isn’t a medical necessity to be in her daughters’ room every night. She has the opportunity to be with her DH at night. That’s nothing to do with ‘shagging’ and nowhere have I said that. But it’s an opportunity to spend time with each other, reconnect as a couple and take care of their relationship. The fact that OP is choosing to spend this time carrying on her role as carer is sending a message to her DH that their relationship is taking a backseat to her role as a carer, even when it doesn’t need to. I don’t know how you come back from that.

"OP prioritise your husband's sex drive over your sick child you poor excuse for a wife. You are failing in life by not facilitating him getting his leg over"

We hear you loud and clear.

Twingoo · 18/02/2026 13:53

ForEdgyHare · 18/02/2026 13:16

Yes! Absolutely this.
Once I realised that it didn’t have to be all in that day it gave me space to breathe. A friend I confided in said this to me. They also said that when I was ready then that was the time and if it takes a few months or even years then she would be there still.
Even just getting the info and making quiet lists can help you feel empowered about the next steps.

Yes I have heard in described on here as nudging along the diving board for months, standing and looking over the edge for months and then one day you either jump or walk back. Just do your research - it will inform and empower you either way.

Ninerainbows · 18/02/2026 13:51

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:48

Show me where in any of my posts I have said this. OP says herself that the only reason she sleeps in her daughter’s room is because it makes her feel better - she can’t sleep otherwise. It isn’t a medical necessity to be in her daughters’ room every night. She has the opportunity to be with her DH at night. That’s nothing to do with ‘shagging’ and nowhere have I said that. But it’s an opportunity to spend time with each other, reconnect as a couple and take care of their relationship. The fact that OP is choosing to spend this time carrying on her role as carer is sending a message to her DH that their relationship is taking a backseat to her role as a carer, even when it doesn’t need to. I don’t know how you come back from that.

Show you where you have said what? Did you mean to reply to me?

Also, funny how he only wants to "reconnect" once the OP has lost weight. Isn't he a lovely guy.

loislovesstewie · 18/02/2026 13:50

Many years ago when I was trained to work in a police control room, we were all shown a scenario and had to write a summary. Everyone gave a slightly different account, particularly when we were asked an hour later to write it again.
The point I'm making is clearly that we have 1 side of the argument here. Each person who reads it puts their own take on it, possibly based on their experience, or their level of empathy, or what particular point they have taken from the account. I realise I'm stating the obvious, and I'm not saying that the OP should stay in an unhappy marriage. Only that we have no idea really how it got to this stage or what else is happening. And I understand that goes for every question asked by an OP. Sometimes there are too many unanswered questions.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:48

Ninerainbows · 18/02/2026 13:42

It is made up. She (is it a she? Probs not) can repeat it all she wants: still not the truth.

It is NOT a one-off. He has spitefully spoken about retiring in the event of divorce so OP doesn't get any money!

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Show me where in any of my posts I have said this. OP says herself that the only reason she sleeps in her daughter’s room is because it makes her feel better - she can’t sleep otherwise. It isn’t a medical necessity to be in her daughters’ room every night. She has the opportunity to be with her DH at night. That’s nothing to do with ‘shagging’ and nowhere have I said that. But it’s an opportunity to spend time with each other, reconnect as a couple and take care of their relationship. The fact that OP is choosing to spend this time carrying on her role as carer is sending a message to her DH that their relationship is taking a backseat to her role as a carer, even when it doesn’t need to. I don’t know how you come back from that.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/02/2026 13:48

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:42

I’m entitled to my opinion and have explained my reasons. I’m not victim blaming in any way at all - they are a partnership and both bear responsibility for the way in which the relationship is headed, but the theme here seems to be blaming DH for everything simply because he’s a man, regardless of the part OP has potentially played in forcing his outburst. That’s what’s nuts.

Your 'opinions' are based on stuff you've made up - like him wanting to 'take care' of his wife, when he's said that he's going to retire if she divorces him so he won't have to pay her anything. Hardly the words of a caring husband. As for 'forcing' his outburst - oh, give over, suggesting he help out with his own children is hardly holding a gun to his head. But knock yourself out, defend this prince among men all you like. You must have your own reasons for identifying with him so strongly, I'm sure.

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2026 13:47

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:42

I’m entitled to my opinion and have explained my reasons. I’m not victim blaming in any way at all - they are a partnership and both bear responsibility for the way in which the relationship is headed, but the theme here seems to be blaming DH for everything simply because he’s a man, regardless of the part OP has potentially played in forcing his outburst. That’s what’s nuts.

The OP wants to end the relationship. She is responsible enough to make this decision without having to first 'work on the marriage' or appease an abusive male.

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2026 13:46

Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/02/2026 13:37

Christ, are you actually the OP's husband? The extent to which you're excusing the man and victim-blaming his wife is nuts.

Quite.

Nothing more needs to be said.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:42

Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/02/2026 13:37

Christ, are you actually the OP's husband? The extent to which you're excusing the man and victim-blaming his wife is nuts.

I’m entitled to my opinion and have explained my reasons. I’m not victim blaming in any way at all - they are a partnership and both bear responsibility for the way in which the relationship is headed, but the theme here seems to be blaming DH for everything simply because he’s a man, regardless of the part OP has potentially played in forcing his outburst. That’s what’s nuts.

Ninerainbows · 18/02/2026 13:42

Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/02/2026 13:10

Christ. No, that's just your specific take on the situation, which you've largely made up.

Thinking the OP should be shagging her husband instead of sleeping in the same room as her disabled daughter who needs oxygen at night because his needs trump hers actually blows my mind.

It is made up. She (is it a she? Probs not) can repeat it all she wants: still not the truth.

It is NOT a one-off. He has spitefully spoken about retiring in the event of divorce so OP doesn't get any money!

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:39

WearyAuldWumman · 18/02/2026 13:35

Except he's choosing to stay at work until 7 and he's choosing to go out and do thing on his own. Family life is secondary to him.

Others have mentioned the age difference. I agonised over getting married to my late husband because of our age gap—not as much as that between the OP and her DH, but still in excess of 20 yrs.

The only problem that didn't arise was having an older father for my children—I miscarried. DH was fit and healthy until he wasn't. He needed a triple bypass at 71 and had a stroke at 75. I lost him just over 6 yrs later. (Posters who have said that the OP won't have her husband around for much longer might well be wrong, though I have a relative through marriage who was left with a 9 yr old when her 69 yr old partner died of a hear attack.)

My husband was loving and I miss him every day, but being a carer was far from easy—especially since I was working full time and also had my parents to look after for many years.

Why am I saying this? An acquaintince was in an unhappy marriage. She was on the point of leaving when her husband had a stroke. She felt trapped into staying for years until she finally made arrangements which allowed her to leave.

The OP needs to decided what—if anything—she's getting out of her marriage.

With regard to dementia, I guess that's a possibility: both heart trouble and mini-strokes can give arise to this kind of angry behaviour.

From OP’s posts this is recent behaviour, so it’s possible it’s because he’s overwhelmed by his home life, so is choosing to distract himself. Not saying it’s right by any means, but if he has his own concerns - could be health wise or age related - and feels as though he’s not being listened to then maybe he’s dealing with that in his own way.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 18/02/2026 13:37

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:36

He’s paying his way, so whether he’s being financially abusive depends on what he’s doing with the money he’s putting away. He didn’t agree to the money OP wanted to spend on addressing her child’s condition so OP took out a substantial loan. Whether or he was reasonable or that OP should have taken out a loan without his agreement is impossible to say without more detail as to why it was needed. I agree he was verbally abusive, but as I said, it sounds as though he is OP’s last consideration and if he’s tried to talk to her before and been ignored or dismissed then it’s hardly surprising it’s got to this point.

I’m not saying that OP is wrong to feel as she does, but it’s clear, at least to me, that she’s kind of checked out of the relationship herself because her focus is entirely on her children, even when it doesn’t need to be. That leaves little room for a relationship with her DH, or he with her.

Christ, are you actually the OP's husband? The extent to which you're excusing the man and victim-blaming his wife is nuts.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:36

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2026 13:26

It sounds like he is potentially financially abusive and certainly has been verbally abusive...

He’s paying his way, so whether he’s being financially abusive depends on what he’s doing with the money he’s putting away. He didn’t agree to the money OP wanted to spend on addressing her child’s condition so OP took out a substantial loan. Whether or he was reasonable or that OP should have taken out a loan without his agreement is impossible to say without more detail as to why it was needed. I agree he was verbally abusive, but as I said, it sounds as though he is OP’s last consideration and if he’s tried to talk to her before and been ignored or dismissed then it’s hardly surprising it’s got to this point.

I’m not saying that OP is wrong to feel as she does, but it’s clear, at least to me, that she’s kind of checked out of the relationship herself because her focus is entirely on her children, even when it doesn’t need to be. That leaves little room for a relationship with her DH, or he with her.

WearyAuldWumman · 18/02/2026 13:35

QuirkyHorse · 18/02/2026 06:53

Could he have the onset of dementia, that can present as anger?

68 with two young kids and he's still working. No wonder he is tired and grumpy!
If ever there was an advert for not marrying someone a generation older, this is it.
Life doesn't sound great for any of you ☹️

Except he's choosing to stay at work until 7 and he's choosing to go out and do thing on his own. Family life is secondary to him.

Others have mentioned the age difference. I agonised over getting married to my late husband because of our age gap—not as much as that between the OP and her DH, but still in excess of 20 yrs.

The only problem that didn't arise was having an older father for my children—I miscarried. DH was fit and healthy until he wasn't. He needed a triple bypass at 71 and had a stroke at 75. I lost him just over 6 yrs later. (Posters who have said that the OP won't have her husband around for much longer might well be wrong, though I have a relative through marriage who was left with a 9 yr old when her 69 yr old partner died of a hear attack.)

My husband was loving and I miss him every day, but being a carer was far from easy—especially since I was working full time and also had my parents to look after for many years.

Why am I saying this? An acquaintince was in an unhappy marriage. She was on the point of leaving when her husband had a stroke. She felt trapped into staying for years until she finally made arrangements which allowed her to leave.

The OP needs to decided what—if anything—she's getting out of her marriage.

With regard to dementia, I guess that's a possibility: both heart trouble and mini-strokes can give arise to this kind of angry behaviour.

ThiagoJones · 18/02/2026 13:32

DotAndCarryOne2 · 18/02/2026 13:30

It’s not saying that at all. It’s questioning why the mother of two disabled children who spends her days working full time and looking after them, and who would be understandably exhausted by that, would choose to spend her nights doing essentially the same thing for her daughter when there is no medical need. I think anyone who can’t see that from the point of view of her DH is being obtuse. It’s not even about sex, it’s about intimacy, spending time together and allowing her DH to take care of her.

Where has he said that he wants to ‘take care of her’? It sounds more like he wants her to take care of him, to me.