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So what’s happening with the epstein files?

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Newsenmum · 16/02/2026 20:41

What’s actually going to happen? These files are everywhere. They are all over social media. My algorithm is horrifying. More and more every day.

But what’s actually being done? I don’t see any action, protest, nothing.

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MyTrivia · 17/02/2026 21:00

HoskinsChoice · 17/02/2026 20:22

How do you know it's true? Seems odd that you know it's true but the police don't have enough evidence to charge anyone.

The police didn’t do anything about Jimmy Savile even though they knew what he was doing. Epstein was similar to him.

There are, and always have been a lot of different people covering up for each other.

Some of the photographs and videos in the files are horrific. I would prefer not to think the worst if I could choose but there is too much evidence for it to be anything other than the worst.

HoskinsChoice · 17/02/2026 20:22

MyTrivia · 17/02/2026 07:26

Some of it is true. I used to wish it was fake news.

How do you know it's true? Seems odd that you know it's true but the police don't have enough evidence to charge anyone.

HoskinsChoice · 17/02/2026 20:19

Firefly1987 · 17/02/2026 00:37

What? I thought it was illegal in the UK...

Nope. It's not illegal to pay for sex and it's not illegal to be paid for sex.

Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 11:54

Serpentstooth · 17/02/2026 07:31

They do it because they can. That's it. They believe their money and connections give them licence to do whatsoever they choose with no consequences. And so it proves.

Yes but not everybody would do those things because they can. It sickens a majority of people including men. Fathers. Many, many fathers are sickened by it.

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Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 11:53

Cosmication · 17/02/2026 07:23

There's a lot of fake news circulating on social media apparently. I've heard several references here to the idea that they abused or murdered babies and children but I haven't read anything to suggest that that's actually true? Not saying that trafficking, grooming and paying for sex isn't bad enough.

there have been emails

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lljkk · 17/02/2026 08:11

1...the old narrative was that Epstein had a large "client" list, people (all men?) who also sexually abused young females. I've read a lot about how the victims have a long list of specific named men who abused them but they are too afraid to name (no idea if a single word of that sentence is true). The FBI has repeatedly over many years said that there is no evidence to support narrative 1.

2.... the new narrative is that Epstein had "enablers" : people who knew or should have known about his crimes, and didn't challenge/try to stop him. Again, long list of named individuals the victims say they are too afraid to name. All you need to do to be called an enabler is have had a friendly relationship with JE, especially if you're also a wealthy male.

3... As part of the narrative 2, people are being persecuted for being friends with JE before and after he became a convicted criminal. A lot of the potential names in this group are basically now in public domain, because of the big document releases.

4... n UK, people are being investigated for actually passing unauthorised govt. information to Epstein.

Many people are still convinced narrative 1. is true, OP too, I guess.

I wonder if mafioso typos orchestrated JE's apparent suicide. If they were powerful enough to do that, what other awful crimes have they covered up? Revelations about how JE got so rich and if organised crime had a part in his death, those things would be actual news.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 17/02/2026 07:36

There are states in the US that run brothels. It’s not illegal to pay for sex. In the UK it’s illegal to live off immoral earnings (pimp) and it’s illegal to solicit for sex.

Serpentstooth · 17/02/2026 07:31

Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 07:19

Can we at least find the root cause of why people do this. It’s so unbearable.

They do it because they can. That's it. They believe their money and connections give them licence to do whatsoever they choose with no consequences. And so it proves.

MyTrivia · 17/02/2026 07:26

Cosmication · 17/02/2026 07:23

There's a lot of fake news circulating on social media apparently. I've heard several references here to the idea that they abused or murdered babies and children but I haven't read anything to suggest that that's actually true? Not saying that trafficking, grooming and paying for sex isn't bad enough.

Some of it is true. I used to wish it was fake news.

PurpleAxe · 17/02/2026 07:26

Rich, powerful men abuse women and children.

Nothing ever changes, and nothing will be done.

Because the rich powerful men are the rich and powerful ones who could do something

They might make a few sacrifices to satisfy the mob.

But otherwise, everything will just roll on.

MyTrivia · 17/02/2026 07:25

I’ve said this before but it seems that David Icke was right about some of these things. Namely that there are influential people who kill innocent others as a sacrifice so that they have a prosperous year. Hoi polloi is encouraged to be secular so that this stuff seems far fetched. Even if it’s nonsensical (which it is) that is what they believe. Someone was saying on another thread that Icke is a holocaust denier so he must be wrong about everything but sadly it doesn’t work like that.

I have a family friend who was semi-famous and she partied with P Diddy once. She always said the illuminati rumours were real and I tried to push it to the back of my mind.

As for what we can do about it. I just don’t know.

Cosmication · 17/02/2026 07:23

There's a lot of fake news circulating on social media apparently. I've heard several references here to the idea that they abused or murdered babies and children but I haven't read anything to suggest that that's actually true? Not saying that trafficking, grooming and paying for sex isn't bad enough.

Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 07:19

Can we at least find the root cause of why people do this. It’s so unbearable.

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Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 07:19

There must be something we can do.

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MyTrivia · 17/02/2026 07:17

I’m very upset by it all. I used to hope this stuff was conspiracy but some of the things in those files are truly sickening and JE’s vile behaviour was the tip of an ice berg.

Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 07:17

I mean it’s all over social media but nothing is actually happening with it.

Surely something needs to?

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Newsenmum · 17/02/2026 07:16

HeddaGarbled · 16/02/2026 23:57

I don’t see any action, protest, nothing

Really? Do you read newspapers?

Social media has nothing.
No I use bbc news app.

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Firefly1987 · 17/02/2026 00:37

HoskinsChoice · 17/02/2026 00:11

Interesting! Hadn't realised that. It's not illegal in the UK, I just assumed it wasn't in the US too.

What? I thought it was illegal in the UK...

Sparklybutold · 17/02/2026 00:30

Nothing will happen. Zilch. Nada. The abuse will continue elsewhere. Powerful men will always come out on top.

HeddaGarbled · 17/02/2026 00:25

Three randoms from 3 news sources today found in about 5 minutes. There’s several of these every day, plus of course the on-going protests from the US politicians.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx47k34yqxo

Guardian: Six Sarah Ferguson-linked companies to close after Epstein revelations

NYT: Tom Pritzker, Citing Epstein Connection, Steps Down as Hyatt’s Executive Chairman

I understand it’s galling that only Brits seem to be suffering any real consequences as yet, but it’s a bit daft to say that nothing is happening.

Hillary Clinton in BBC interview

Hillary Clinton accuses Trump administration of Epstein files cover-up in BBC interview

"Get the files out. They are slow-walking it," the former US secretary of state says. The White House says it has done "more for the victims than Democrats ever did".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx47k34yqxo

HoskinsChoice · 17/02/2026 00:11

Shitmonger · 17/02/2026 00:02

It is absolutely illegal to pay for sex in the US.

Interesting! Hadn't realised that. It's not illegal in the UK, I just assumed it wasn't in the US too.

Shitmonger · 17/02/2026 00:02

HoskinsChoice · 16/02/2026 23:50

Agree. It's also not illegal to pay for sex so even if there was evidence that money was exchanged, there's no legal problem there either.

The illegal bit is the trafficking and the people that led that are dead (Epstein) or in prison (Maxwell).

One of the biggest challenges they would have is that it would be very difficult to prove 'beyond reasonable doubt' that a crime was committed. Guiffre is a good example here - whilst she states she was mentally under the control of Epstein, she was physically free to walk away (which she did on 2 separate occasions, she voluntarily went back the first time). Throughout her time with Epstein, she had money, her own flat and her own car, she lived with her boyfriend and regularly saw and spoke to her family. She voluntarily went back to his house every day, got on his private jets voluntarily, travelled the world voluntarily and groomed other women voluntarily. (By 'voluntarily' I mean without physical force or threat). She walked away from Epstein with zero complications when she met her husband. Epstein/Maxwell made no attempt to stop her. (All of this is in her own book). Even though we assume she was groomed and I believe her, there is no actual evidence that would hold up in a court of law. How do you prove 'beyond reasonable doubt' that the sex she was having was against her will?

It is absolutely illegal to pay for sex in the US.

HeddaGarbled · 16/02/2026 23:57

I don’t see any action, protest, nothing

Really? Do you read newspapers?

MeghansToes · 16/02/2026 23:54

The rich and powerful have always ruled as elites. It has always been this way. Only in relatively recent history have we thought that civilisation and democracy in first world countries means something. It doesn’t. The elite are going to get away with whatever they like until the whole system is broken down, which won’t be as too many people fear disruption to their lives on the scale it needs to happen.

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