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To ask that my nephews don’t come

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Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 18:58

My niece is going through the usual hardships that many teenagers go through at high school. So for her birthday I decided to organise a girls only afternoon tea, and I invited my mum, sister, and niece to come along with my own two daughters and my son (because I’m on mat leave with him).

However, it’s caused a major argument with my sister (whose daughter I planned the event to celebrate). She is annoyed that I didn’t include my two nephews in the invite. I said for my niece, I thought it would be nice to make it girls only and not have her brothers there now she’s older. Now my sister is saying that she’s not going to come and therefore won’t bring my niece either, unless I include my nephews. She also used as an argument that my 6 month old will be there and he’s a boy. Not sure this is of relevance but I’m paying for the event.

should I include my nephews or stand my groundy daughters are still young but I always intentionally do some special things for just them and me and plan to continue that so I didn’t think I would offend anyone by planning this.

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Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 20:02

@SweeetFannyAdams ngl, I think this is projecting now.

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thepariscrimefiles · 16/02/2026 20:02

SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 19:48

Of course I treat people, don't be so snotty.

But this is her daughter's 18th birthday. You took it upon yourself to plan this girls outing without consulting her at all.

Considering they have a strained relationship, why did you choose to plan it and then tell her?

I know you claimed 'baby brain' but was that the real reason?

Edited

Lol at you accusing OP of being snotty! Your responses to OP are the epitome of snottiness and finger wagging. OP has been very polite to you.

Randomchat · 16/02/2026 20:02

You've planned a family event without 2 of your family. That's odd.

It would have been different if you'd gone for an event with you, your sister and your niece. That would have been a sort of grown-up adult or young adult afternoon tea and that would have been fine.

But you've muddied the waters by bringing your 3 young kids along. That changes the tone of the whole event and makes your nephews look left out.

I think you've made a mistake here op.

It's like a class party, either invite everyone or half the class. Don't leave just a couple of kids out. That's mean.

Fwiw my teenage sons would love an afternoon tea with all the mini cakes and whatnot.

SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 20:01

Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 19:57

@Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep thank YOU. We are on the same wavelength!!

Everyone thinking that there something more going on between me and my sister is also laughable. I’m 14 years younger than her. She’s her own person. I didn’t even need her consent or to invite her too. She really doesn’t care either way. I speak to her every day so I already knew that they hadn’t planned anything. I also know my sister inside out, she NEVER plans anything. It has worked this way in our family for decades now. My family and my parents organise everything.

I also feel like at 18 my relationship with my niece can be separate to my relationship with my sister to a certain extent.

Edited

So you speak to her everyday and then it was 'Whoops baby brain' - 'forgot to mention I'd planned a girls outing for 7 people'?

Like I said, there's definitely something you're not saying.

And whatever that is, it will be part of why your sister has reacted the way she has.

Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 19:57

@Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep thank YOU. We are on the same wavelength!!

Everyone thinking that there something more going on between me and my sister is also laughable. I’m 14 years younger than her. She’s her own person. I didn’t even need her consent or to invite her too. She really doesn’t care either way. I speak to her every day so I already knew that they hadn’t planned anything. I also know my sister inside out, she NEVER plans anything. It has worked this way in our family for decades now. My family and my parents organise everything.

I also feel like at 18 my relationship with my niece can be separate to my relationship with my sister to a certain extent.

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beAsensible1 · 16/02/2026 19:56

I’d cancel it and just take her out 121 or her and one of her friends

thepariscrimefiles · 16/02/2026 19:56

What has your sister organised for your niece's birthday? I'm assuming that she'll have organised a big family event for her daughter's 18th birthday.

She sounds pretty difficult and quick to take offence. Has your niece said whether she would prefer it if her brothers were invited? If she would prefer a 'girls only' afternoon tea, that is what you should do.

Moonnstarz · 16/02/2026 19:54

Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep · 16/02/2026 19:48

This is such an odd take on it.

the gift from auntie to niece is an afternoon tea FOR her birthday, not ON her birthday (so mum still gets to organise the actual day of birthday celebrations - so no over-stepping). OP is paying so absolutely should get to say how many guests are there and she’s not inviting ANY males (including dads/uncles and the baby is irrelevant) so she’s not just excluding the nephews. OP is being generous by including her mum and sister as well as her niece to make her niece feel special. She’s also aware the the niece needs a little extra TLC at the moment. OP has been a lovely, kind auntie and sister and hasn’t done anything wrong. She can treat the boys on their birthday if she so wishes.

OP, I’d collect your niece yourself and go with your mum. Your sister obviously has something going on in her own mind which warps her take on your gift. And I really can’t see that teenage boys would even want to go and so why she would want to force them is strange.

I think it would be a gift from the Auntie if it had just been arranged as an afternoon tea for the two of them.
The fact she invited other female relatives without asking her sister does suggest she knew it would cause conflict. It's also organising it more as an event rather than a gift.

I agree with the poster who has said make it adults only - I was surprised that the OP is taking her own young children (I presumed from the initial post they were female teenagers, not little ones).

Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep · 16/02/2026 19:53

SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 19:52

No but she doesn't have to drive a wedge into it either by playing the aunt that's more popular than the mum.

That’s your cynical take on it. I see it as a kind auntie celebrating her nieces birthday. But let’s leave it there and not derail the thread.

CaffeinatedMum · 16/02/2026 19:53

Hereforthecommentz · 16/02/2026 19:36

Just seen your update your niece is 18. Take her for a bottomless brunch instead! Enjoy.

She’s taking three under five with her as well, this is where the dynamic printable gets a bit confusing. FWIW I agree, leave your kids at home and just take your niece to a bottomless brunch or something else special.

Keroppi · 16/02/2026 19:53

Cancel it and invite your niece away on her own for a spa day or cocktail making class or away for a day doing whatever hobby she's into. Or day in London etc
Do it on a weekend so you don't bring all your kids keep it just you and her.

Sister opinion irrelevant on something like that as she's 18 and it's not a whole family thing or male/female only. And she can't control what her daughter can and can't do on a weekend just because she wants the weekends as family time only.

SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 19:52

Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep · 16/02/2026 19:50

In no way, shape or form is it the OPs job to fix the relationship between her sister and her niece.

No but she doesn't have to drive a wedge into it either by playing the aunt that's more popular than the mum.

Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep · 16/02/2026 19:50

JemimaTiggywinkles · 16/02/2026 19:32

I’m very close to my nieces but I think you’ve massively overstepped. If you know the relationship between your niece and her mum is difficult then your job is to try to help mend that relationship, not make things harder. Deliberately planning something to exclude your nephews does come across like you’re trying to prove something.

In no way, shape or form is it the OPs job to fix the relationship between her sister and her niece.

CaffeinatedMum · 16/02/2026 19:50

If it was just you and your niece I’d think it’s fine not to invite nephews, but given all their cousins and their mum is going to be there, it’s a bit odd to not invite them as it feels more like a family thing. Also a bit out of order you planned it all without actually speaking to your sister!

Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 19:50

@Tulipsriver i love that for you. I plan to continue organising things that I know my niece likes and things I know my nephews like. There is no gender stereotyping here. And just because gender stereotyping may be a thing, doesn’t mean that it’s bad when life plays out naturally into girls and boys liking things that have historically fallen into those categories.

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SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 19:49

StartingOverInMy40s · 16/02/2026 19:48

But you said your sister is funny with events and only attends if all her kids are there - you booked this knowing that?

Yes, this is one of those times where I'd love to hear the sister's take.

I suspect there's a bit more than the OP is letting on.

ZenNudist · 16/02/2026 19:49

It was a really lovely idea and a great way to celebrate an 18th. I'd probably have left your young children at home, especially the little girls. If bf baby and his dad can't have him then of course bring your ds but it'd ruin most decent afternoon teas and I'd not be happy if my afternoon tea was ruined by a baby, thinking of other customers.

So maybe strip it back to adults only then there's no contention about children being invited.

Otherwise tell your neice you will find a different treat for you and her as a gift.

Cupofteaandagoodbookthensleep · 16/02/2026 19:48

Moonnstarz · 16/02/2026 19:27

So you think it's ok for an auntie to effectively organise a party for their niece, selecting the guest list?
I would be rather annoyed if my sibling did something like this, especially having read that there is already a difficult relationship between mum and daughter. It feels like Auntie is showing how she can get it right, proving to the niece that her mum does prefer the boys.

This is such an odd take on it.

the gift from auntie to niece is an afternoon tea FOR her birthday, not ON her birthday (so mum still gets to organise the actual day of birthday celebrations - so no over-stepping). OP is paying so absolutely should get to say how many guests are there and she’s not inviting ANY males (including dads/uncles and the baby is irrelevant) so she’s not just excluding the nephews. OP is being generous by including her mum and sister as well as her niece to make her niece feel special. She’s also aware the the niece needs a little extra TLC at the moment. OP has been a lovely, kind auntie and sister and hasn’t done anything wrong. She can treat the boys on their birthday if she so wishes.

OP, I’d collect your niece yourself and go with your mum. Your sister obviously has something going on in her own mind which warps her take on your gift. And I really can’t see that teenage boys would even want to go and so why she would want to force them is strange.

StartingOverInMy40s · 16/02/2026 19:48

But you said your sister is funny with events and only attends if all her kids are there - you booked this knowing that?

SweeetFannyAdams · 16/02/2026 19:48

Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 19:45

@SweeetFannyAdams i think we will just have to agree to disagree.

If you’re not the kind of person to treat people for special occasions then you’ll never get where I’m coming from. I’ve had a spa day planned for my birthday before and it never crossed my mind once how dare they, I could have had plans already. LOL

Of course I treat people, don't be so snotty.

But this is her daughter's 18th birthday. You took it upon yourself to plan this girls outing without consulting her at all.

Considering they have a strained relationship, why did you choose to plan it and then tell her?

I know you claimed 'baby brain' but was that the real reason?

nixon1976 · 16/02/2026 19:47

Tulipsriver · 16/02/2026 19:46

I'm torn, it's nice that you want to do something lovely for your niece's birthday, but I hate overgendering activities.

Why wouldn't boys enjoy an afternoon tea? And the male equivalents always seem to be something sporty or adrenaline fuelled... what if the girls in your family fancy go-karting or watching a rugby match?

Normalising 'girls only' and 'boy only' activities just keeps outdated gender stereotypes going and puts limits both boys and girls.

Presumably more to do with the fact that it's a special treat for her, and shouldn't have to share it with annoying siblings, of any sex

Tulipsriver · 16/02/2026 19:46

I'm torn, it's nice that you want to do something lovely for your niece's birthday, but I hate overgendering activities.

Why wouldn't boys enjoy an afternoon tea? And the male equivalents always seem to be something sporty or adrenaline fuelled... what if the girls in your family fancy go-karting or watching a rugby match?

Normalising 'girls only' and 'boy only' activities just keeps outdated gender stereotypes going and puts limits both boys and girls.

Littlebitofthis1 · 16/02/2026 19:45

@SweeetFannyAdams i think we will just have to agree to disagree.

If you’re not the kind of person to treat people for special occasions then you’ll never get where I’m coming from. I’ve had a spa day planned for my birthday before and it never crossed my mind once how dare they, I could have had plans already. LOL

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Rottedtheanemones · 16/02/2026 19:44

I think it is odd that you have planned a girly day for an 18 year old that excludes her own siblings but plan to bring your own young children along. Surely a girly afternoon tea for an 18 year old should be a more adult affair?