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To think it’s incredibly sad that there’s still such a huge stigma against mental health issues?

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Theboredpanda · 16/02/2026 16:42

TW: mention of suicidal thoughts

I suffer from depression but it comes in waves of around 3 days to 2 weeks. In-between I’m completely normal, happy, positive, full of energy. I can be fine for months on end, 7-8 months even. But if something triggers me at the wrong time, it can have a catastrophic effect on my MH. My world comes crashing down around me, I can’t stop crying, sometimes can’t get out of bed, often feel suicidal, can’t bring myself to talk to anyone. I’ve been on meds for years which have helped enormously in that these episodes are far less frequent, but they still happen. I have to take time off work occasionally and ask my co-parent if he can have the kids for extra days. My HR dept is aware but none of my colleagues are and I don’t discuss it with friends or family either. They know I suffer from it but no one likes to talk about it. It actually makes me want to scream sometimes. If I’ve had to take time off work I’ll have to come back with a pre-prepared lie for my colleagues about how I had an awful stomach bug because that’s socially acceptable to talk about. (It’s rare I take time off work so physical illness is believable). Some of my friends at work would feel more comfortable talking about the consistency of my made-up diarrhoea than they would about depression. I have to lie to family about why I don’t answer their calls for days too. Usually another lie about being so ill with food poisoning I was bed bound. Because if I told them the truth I’d just get awkward mumbling. I used to tell my kids’ dad the truth as he knows I suffer from depression. However, I’ve had to start lying to him too or he refuses to have the kids, as it’s “not a good enough reason” apparently. It’s very rare I ask him to keep the kids for an extra day or two because of my depression (maybe twice a year) and it’s only because I don’t want them to see me like this. When I used to tell him the truth he’d refuse, telling me to “pull myself together”. If I pushed it he’d start saying “well maybe you shouldn’t have them at all” and threaten to go to court for full custody, saying I was a danger to them (I’m not and never have been). He only did this so I’d back down and take them, which was extremely difficult and meant I’d have to pretend I was physically ill to them too. I’m not trying to sound like a victim, I’m just so unbelievably sick of the way people with MH problems, especially those who do everything in their power to help themselves and try very hard not to be a burden on others, are treated. It’s such BS that the stigma against it no longer exists, which some people seem to believe. We’ve barely moved on at all. People just don’t know how to talk about it. It’s either met with pity, awkwardness or disbelief (eg. People thinking you’re being dramatic or you just need to pull yourself together or “we all get depressed” attitudes 🙄). AIBU to feel so angry & resentful about this? To think we all need to try harder to break down this stigma?

OP posts:
Str0ganoff · 19/02/2026 15:50

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 19/02/2026 14:24

At what point do you take responsibilty for yourself. The NHS does not have infinate resources

Asking and responding to help is taking responsibility. What else do you expect people
who have battled and tried to overcome trauma, EDs, clinical depression, OCD….etc to do?

Not treating MH when it needs to be treated costs the NHS a massive amount more. Mental illness doesn’t go away, it gets worse if not treated properly. Patients end up in uber expensive hospitals when they don’t need to, our prisons fill up, people get hurt and die.

Youmustwakeup · 19/02/2026 15:40

Theboredpanda · 16/02/2026 22:40

I’d just like people not to be so awkward and scared of mentioning it. I’d like people’s reactions to reflect how widespread it is, rather than some shameful secret that we all pretend doesn’t exist. When asked why I was off work by a friend, I’d like to not feel panic setting in and having to come up with a lie. For example, if I was off work with food poisoning and came back, there would be no shame in admitting I had food poisoning (I’m talking about with colleagues I’m friends with). I could say something like “it was a rough few days, I couldn’t keep anything down, it was hell” etc. I’d like to be able to say “I got really depressed, I couldn’t even get out of bed or brush my teeth. It was hell” and for people to have the same sympathetic reaction they would if I had food poisoning. But also to say something like “glad you’re better now” like they would with a physical illness, and not assume it means I’m damaged/weak/crazy. But just the thought of saying those things out loud to people would immediately make me feel like they saw me as weak/pitied me/assumed I was still depressed (yes, for me it does infrequently recur, but many people only have 2 or 3 depressive episodes in a lifetime). It would feel way too personal and incredibly awkward to admit those things though. And that is sad because so many people have been in the same boat

That sounds ideal. But at what cost to the person mentioning it? I had multiple negative consequences to doing so (not just being managed out; my car insurance was immediately withdrawn and I have to pay MUCH higher premiums. Due the rest of my life I have to declare that I have been refused car insurance).

So no, I'm not throwing myself under that particular bus.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 19/02/2026 14:24

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 20:18

Treat them! The same as they do with the variety of physical conditions they encounter. Anybody who presents at A&E after trying to kill themselves needs help- end of.

“Shit life syndrome ” is so dismissive- these are people who will be struggling with trauma, undiagnosed/ untreated ND etc

At what point do you take responsibilty for yourself. The NHS does not have infinate resources

Theboredpanda · 16/02/2026 22:40

dairydebris · 16/02/2026 17:36

How would you prefer things to be, OP? How would no stigma about mental health look?

I’d just like people not to be so awkward and scared of mentioning it. I’d like people’s reactions to reflect how widespread it is, rather than some shameful secret that we all pretend doesn’t exist. When asked why I was off work by a friend, I’d like to not feel panic setting in and having to come up with a lie. For example, if I was off work with food poisoning and came back, there would be no shame in admitting I had food poisoning (I’m talking about with colleagues I’m friends with). I could say something like “it was a rough few days, I couldn’t keep anything down, it was hell” etc. I’d like to be able to say “I got really depressed, I couldn’t even get out of bed or brush my teeth. It was hell” and for people to have the same sympathetic reaction they would if I had food poisoning. But also to say something like “glad you’re better now” like they would with a physical illness, and not assume it means I’m damaged/weak/crazy. But just the thought of saying those things out loud to people would immediately make me feel like they saw me as weak/pitied me/assumed I was still depressed (yes, for me it does infrequently recur, but many people only have 2 or 3 depressive episodes in a lifetime). It would feel way too personal and incredibly awkward to admit those things though. And that is sad because so many people have been in the same boat

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 16/02/2026 22:39

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 20:18

Treat them! The same as they do with the variety of physical conditions they encounter. Anybody who presents at A&E after trying to kill themselves needs help- end of.

“Shit life syndrome ” is so dismissive- these are people who will be struggling with trauma, undiagnosed/ untreated ND etc

If someone is suicidal because they are in a lot of debt (an example), then what is the NHS meant to do?

XenoBitch · 16/02/2026 22:35

Youmustwakeup · 16/02/2026 20:31

Picking up on a point someone else made... some conditions are catered for in the public eye - mild anxiety and depression for instance. The kind of thing MIND likes to exhort ourselves to reach out to people with their nauseating "Time to Talk" campaign.

But psychosis isn't palatable. People living with schizophrenia are thought dangerous (not supported by the evidence base). Telling your workplace about those won't go well. (Which is why I got angry with MIND. Did that many years ago and got promptly managed out. MIND present it as a warm and fuzzy no-brainer. Cheers for that MIND).

I think a lot of these mental health campaigns are more aimed at mental wellbeing, rather than awareness and reduction of stigma of mental illnesses. I mean, we all have mental health. But yes, you are right.... the severe end of mental illness is not talked about and there very much still is a stigma about it.

TheHillIsMine · 16/02/2026 22:22

I think every time someone says there is a stigma, it just perpetuates it.

Suretobeunsure · 16/02/2026 22:21

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:35

Is it? Surely if there is need, you treat it or get informed. No other NHS provision would get away with such a weak and wishy washy outlook.

Many many other provisions already do. Thousands of people with chronic physical conditions are fobbed off by the nhs every single day. And these conditions ‘should’ be easier to treat because they’re not as broad as mental health (which is a sweeping term for hundreds of conditions). But because the nhs is chronically underfunded these people get left behind too

Youmustwakeup · 16/02/2026 20:31

Picking up on a point someone else made... some conditions are catered for in the public eye - mild anxiety and depression for instance. The kind of thing MIND likes to exhort ourselves to reach out to people with their nauseating "Time to Talk" campaign.

But psychosis isn't palatable. People living with schizophrenia are thought dangerous (not supported by the evidence base). Telling your workplace about those won't go well. (Which is why I got angry with MIND. Did that many years ago and got promptly managed out. MIND present it as a warm and fuzzy no-brainer. Cheers for that MIND).

EnterQueene · 16/02/2026 20:30

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 20:18

Treat them! The same as they do with the variety of physical conditions they encounter. Anybody who presents at A&E after trying to kill themselves needs help- end of.

“Shit life syndrome ” is so dismissive- these are people who will be struggling with trauma, undiagnosed/ untreated ND etc

NHS treatment can’t cure a shit life. One of my children is a community psychiatric nurse in an impoverished city and she says many of her patients are reacting appropriately to the terrible hand they have been dealt. Traumatic life experiences as children, chaotic lives, deprivation, limited opportunities. It would be more remarkable if they weren’t anxious or depressed. Medical treatment can’t solve social problems.

AnotherNaCha · 16/02/2026 20:21

Have you been investigated for PMDD?! Sounds very much like it and it’s utterly debilitating esp just before menopause

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 20:18

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 16/02/2026 20:07

🖕so many people present at A&E and it IS "shit life syndrome" they are suffering from. Mix these people, among the drug users, alcohol abusers, the mild anxiety sufferers with the clinically depressed, schizophrenics. What is our NHS to do?

Treat them! The same as they do with the variety of physical conditions they encounter. Anybody who presents at A&E after trying to kill themselves needs help- end of.

“Shit life syndrome ” is so dismissive- these are people who will be struggling with trauma, undiagnosed/ untreated ND etc

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 16/02/2026 20:07

🖕so many people present at A&E and it IS "shit life syndrome" they are suffering from. Mix these people, among the drug users, alcohol abusers, the mild anxiety sufferers with the clinically depressed, schizophrenics. What is our NHS to do?

youalright · 16/02/2026 19:42

Cliveismyhero · 16/02/2026 19:37

Must be an element of luck involved. I got it for MH issues and my assessment call was only 12 minutes.

I think it definitely depends on the assessor i went from 0 points to high rate on both at mandatory reconsideration

Cliveismyhero · 16/02/2026 19:37

youalright · 16/02/2026 19:27

This, i initially got turned down for pip straight after getting off a section 3 and I have bipolar, and bpd plus multiple serious physical health conditions

Must be an element of luck involved. I got it for MH issues and my assessment call was only 12 minutes.

Enigma54 · 16/02/2026 19:34

Lighterandbrighter · 16/02/2026 16:45

If you have a serious illness and tell colleagues it's flaring up then I can guarantee you'll also be met with awkward responses. It's a response to a serious condition, not mental health. It's the same with a cancer diagnosis.

I couldn’t agree more more this

OP, in my experience, It’s the same with cancer. I’m treatable but incurable. A majority of my colleagues have ghosted me ( some friends too!) They don’t want to know, it makes uncomfortable talk and heads end up falling to the ground in awkwardness.

I’m going through the ill health retirement process now, so it no longer matters what colleagues think. Just wanted to say that I understand OP and feel sad you are in this situation.

youalright · 16/02/2026 19:27

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:16

You will never ever get PIP just for down days. You’re lucky if you get it when accessing specialised MH services.

This, i initially got turned down for pip straight after getting off a section 3 and I have bipolar, and bpd plus multiple serious physical health conditions

Nuncheon · 16/02/2026 19:11

Theboredpanda · 16/02/2026 17:19

My family do try. When it’s been very bad in the past they were great with practical and financial support but they just don’t seem to have the emotional skills to handle it, which I don’t necessarily blame on them, I blame it on them being products of our society just like everyone else. Since I was forced to talk to them about it 6-7 years ago when it got so bad I needed practical support, I haven’t spoken to them about it since. And they’ve never asked. I think they quietly hoped it just went away (even though they know that’s not true). Them never asking about it makes me feel that they’re really uncomfortable talking about it, so I don’t mention it

I think that your own behaviour is all you can change here. Be more open and explicit about what emotional support you need. They're not psychic, and they may know absolutely nothing about MH issues. If you haven't spoken about it to them since your condition was so bad you needed practical help, they may think you're fine now, and/or that you don't want to talk about a bad period in your life that they think you would find it upsetting to remember. You're the one who knows best about this stuff, so you need to take the lead.

Similarly with your colleagues, rather than inventing physical ailments to cover your MH sick leave.

I think the problem is that your ex's profoundly unpleasant response to you being honest with him has made you afraid everyone else is equally prejudiced and ignorant. They probably aren't, but you won't know until you let people know how they can support you. Which I get involves being brave and letting yourself be vulnerable, but I think it's better than fulminating about having to cover it up.

Sidebeforeself · 16/02/2026 19:04

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:45

🤷‍♀️Maybe you’re not explaining yourself that well or maybe you just don’t like my answers.

Or maybe you just like arguing your point despite the fact that it’s nothing to do with the point I’m making

Cliveismyhero · 16/02/2026 19:03

Makemineacosmo · 16/02/2026 18:59

I've just recently gone on antidepressants. The impact of my colleague being off since last March, with her mental health, has caused me so much stress. I love(d) my job, but I'm not sure how much longer I can hack it if she remains off. I have every sympathy for her, but it doesn't lessen the effect it has on others.

Good point and no one can know whether you are suffering more than her. You might have a higher threshold before going off sick than she has.

Makemineacosmo · 16/02/2026 18:59

Pricelessadvice · 16/02/2026 18:40

Honestly? Because I think you’d be suprised how many people are on antidepressants and dealing with mental health issues themselves.

I've just recently gone on antidepressants. The impact of my colleague being off since last March, with her mental health, has caused me so much stress. I love(d) my job, but I'm not sure how much longer I can hack it if she remains off. I have every sympathy for her, but it doesn't lessen the effect it has on others.

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:56

ComtesseDeSpair · 16/02/2026 18:44

I think it’s less stigma and more that the NHS struggles where a large proportion of the mild to moderate mental health problems patients present with are ultimately “shit life syndrome” and the NHS can’t tackle that alone. Counselling can help, by giving people the tools and confidence to address their problems; but it can’t cure a dysfunctional marriage or money worries or general sadness because somebody thought their life would be different; and a lot of NHS counsellors aren’t specialists in relationship therapy or trauma therapy, and aren’t geared up to provide the sort of long-term and intensive treatment; and investment in services isn’t there for a counsellor to say “I can’t help you with these problems” and refer in to services who can.

But very specific MH problems- trauma, EDs, OCD etc are massively under catered/ under funded too.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 16/02/2026 18:55

ComtesseDeSpair · 16/02/2026 18:44

I think it’s less stigma and more that the NHS struggles where a large proportion of the mild to moderate mental health problems patients present with are ultimately “shit life syndrome” and the NHS can’t tackle that alone. Counselling can help, by giving people the tools and confidence to address their problems; but it can’t cure a dysfunctional marriage or money worries or general sadness because somebody thought their life would be different; and a lot of NHS counsellors aren’t specialists in relationship therapy or trauma therapy, and aren’t geared up to provide the sort of long-term and intensive treatment; and investment in services isn’t there for a counsellor to say “I can’t help you with these problems” and refer in to services who can.

I absolutely agree. Tbh, mental conditions are hard to treat. You can’t fix many of them.

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:45

Sidebeforeself · 16/02/2026 18:43

I give up

🤷‍♀️Maybe you’re not explaining yourself that well or maybe you just don’t like my answers.

ComtesseDeSpair · 16/02/2026 18:44

Str0ganoff · 16/02/2026 18:41

Yes, which MH continuously gets less of- because of stigma.

I think it’s less stigma and more that the NHS struggles where a large proportion of the mild to moderate mental health problems patients present with are ultimately “shit life syndrome” and the NHS can’t tackle that alone. Counselling can help, by giving people the tools and confidence to address their problems; but it can’t cure a dysfunctional marriage or money worries or general sadness because somebody thought their life would be different; and a lot of NHS counsellors aren’t specialists in relationship therapy or trauma therapy, and aren’t geared up to provide the sort of long-term and intensive treatment; and investment in services isn’t there for a counsellor to say “I can’t help you with these problems” and refer in to services who can.

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