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Why are the 'But Palestine...' posters not very interested in Iran

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DifferentNameForQuestion · 16/02/2026 15:40

Was reading another thread and soneone made this point.

Is it because Hamas is funded by Iran and is the de facto government of Gaza?

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Frequency · 17/02/2026 09:30

Their actions are equally abhorrent. Yes, I find the mass killing of innocent civilians abhorrent, no matter who is doing the killing, who the victims are, or what the "justification" is.

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DifferentNameForQuestion · 17/02/2026 09:27

dairydebris · 16/02/2026 19:56

You find Hamas, Israel, and the Iranian regime equally abhorrent eh?

How can you honestly say this?

Which of the above 3 shoots its own citizens wothout trial in the streets?
Which of them have functional economies? Decent levels of employment?
Which of them have equal rights for women? Gay people? Which of them blind and kill women for incorrect wearing of head gear?
Which of them have a nominally secular constitution and allow freedom of religion?
Which of them follow an extremely conservative read of religion to infiltrate literally every sphere of life- with all the oppression that brings in particular to women? Which of them hold elections?

Its unbelievably ignorant to say the 3 are equally abhorrent. I can't believe how often this shit pops up on here. Its absolutely infuriating.

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It's shocking.

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DifferentNameForQuestion · 17/02/2026 09:23

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 16/02/2026 17:53

Ahhh the holding Israel to a higher standard!!
Of course!

Until you remember that post 9/11 the USA and UK wiped out half a million civilians in the Middle East during the "War On Terror".
You know that whole thing where Islamic terrorists struck our sovreign nations (don't forget the tube) and our military might went "fuck this" and dragged most of Al Qaeda out of their tunnels while levelling the landscapes and killing whoever got in the damned way.

I don't remember any desire to "boycott" UK or American products at the time.
No parading on the streets in keffiyeh's declaring the murder of American office workers to be freedom fighting at it's finest, no catchy chants advocating for the eradication of sovereign nations.
I do remember the conspiracy theories circulating that Israel was responsible though, because the hatred is old and entrenched, as well as hotly denied, obvz.

Back to higher standards though, because Israel. 😂

Yes double standards

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SharonEllis · 16/02/2026 21:51

Frequency · 16/02/2026 21:46

I agree with this. The biggest difference is not which religions are involved but that large numbers of people are not trying to justify or excuse what is happening in Iran or Sudan.

Plus, as a PP pointed out, protests in the West have little chance of affecting change in Sudan or Iran, but Israel is a Western ally.

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Nonsense. Of course we can affect change in Iran. Start by proscribing the IRGC. Listen to what Iranians tell us. What makes you think we have so much control over what Israel does anyway?

SharonEllis · 16/02/2026 21:49

Martymcfly24 · 16/02/2026 20:49

So we should have sympathy and support for innocent victims of both regimes. Standing up against the injustice suffered.

Instead we have these constant divisive threads who use Iranians suffering to point score against anyone who is deemed a "Pro Pally".

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Yes but people don't that's the point. People have explicitly said they cant support Iranians because Israel. See Misan Harriman for example.

Frequency · 16/02/2026 21:46

Martymcfly24 · 16/02/2026 21:41

You will find Sudanese flags at many Palestinian matches.

Criticism of Sudan etc is not shut down by governments or the legal system. Protesters are not arrested during peaceful protests, look at the footage from Sydney and Germany in the past weeks.

There are not loads of posters arguing that killing of Sudanese people is due to them "starting it" or disputing death figures etc.

What I would love to understand is why people aren't shouting from the rooftops about children being snipered in the head or burning in their tents no matter who they are?
Why are Palestinians the only ones whose deaths are justifiable or reduced to just seen as a reason to criticize Israel.

And finally this idea that anyone who is Pro Palestinian doesn't care about other conflicts is unsubstantiated rubbish. Posters on here have avoided the Iran threads due to posts like the OP's.

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I agree with this. The biggest difference is not which religions are involved but that large numbers of people are not trying to justify or excuse what is happening in Iran or Sudan.

Plus, as a PP pointed out, protests in the West have little chance of affecting change in Sudan or Iran, but Israel is a Western ally.

Martymcfly24 · 16/02/2026 21:41

SunsetValley · 16/02/2026 21:14

This is all very nice, but a lot of us just want to understand why these people do not care about other conflicts, only Palestine. What is the answer to that?

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You will find Sudanese flags at many Palestinian matches.

Criticism of Sudan etc is not shut down by governments or the legal system. Protesters are not arrested during peaceful protests, look at the footage from Sydney and Germany in the past weeks.

There are not loads of posters arguing that killing of Sudanese people is due to them "starting it" or disputing death figures etc.

What I would love to understand is why people aren't shouting from the rooftops about children being snipered in the head or burning in their tents no matter who they are?
Why are Palestinians the only ones whose deaths are justifiable or reduced to just seen as a reason to criticize Israel.

And finally this idea that anyone who is Pro Palestinian doesn't care about other conflicts is unsubstantiated rubbish. Posters on here have avoided the Iran threads due to posts like the OP's.

GrethaGreen · 16/02/2026 21:29

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:26

Hang on, why was my reply upthread deleted. I was asking @GrethaGreen to explain why the protestors support Palestine Action so vociferously, yet appear to give not to care at all about the ongoing atrocities in Iran and the Sudan.

Why was that deleted? It’s a very pertinent question. I’m still waiting for an answer, as are other posters on this thread.

I don’t know why you are asking me that when I haven’t said anything about supporting PA and where do I get that I don’t care about Iran?
Please dont make things up. My absolute last response to this nonsense.

HappyFace2025 · 16/02/2026 21:27

Frequency · 16/02/2026 21:23

Who said they don't?

Child Poverty Action Group doesn't actively campaign against violence against women and children, but I imagine they still condemn it.

Speaking out about one thing does not automatically mean you don't care about similar atrocities.

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But it's the greater 'speaking out' on this one issue that is strange, especially when there are issues like the Child Poverty Action Group or Women's charities here at home that we rarely hear about often, let alone protest for at Parliament Square or Downing Street.

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:26

Hang on, why was my reply upthread deleted. I was asking @GrethaGreen to explain why the protestors support Palestine Action so vociferously, yet appear to give not to care at all about the ongoing atrocities in Iran and the Sudan.

Why was that deleted? It’s a very pertinent question. I’m still waiting for an answer, as are other posters on this thread.

Frequency · 16/02/2026 21:23

SunsetValley · 16/02/2026 21:14

This is all very nice, but a lot of us just want to understand why these people do not care about other conflicts, only Palestine. What is the answer to that?

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Who said they don't?

Child Poverty Action Group doesn't actively campaign against violence against women and children, but I imagine they still condemn it.

Speaking out about one thing does not automatically mean you don't care about similar atrocities.

SunsetValley · 16/02/2026 21:14

Frequency · 16/02/2026 18:01

Personally, I find the actions of Hamas, Israel, and the Iranian government equally abhorrent, and I don't get this rampant desire to pick a side when there are no good sides to pick.

I also don't get the "if you think X is wrong, then you obviously don't care about Y", sentiment that seems to be rife around this topic. It is a childish and unintelligent argument.

This is all very nice, but a lot of us just want to understand why these people do not care about other conflicts, only Palestine. What is the answer to that?

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:14

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Gnomer · 16/02/2026 21:14

Surely the 'standards' are just Western standards and Israel are held to them because they are considered a Western ally. As a Western ally I guess it feels like the UK could have some influence in a way that they're really not going to in Afghanistan, Iran or Sudan.

I don't think it's rocket science really.

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:13

Martymcfly24 · 16/02/2026 21:10

Why do posters care so little about Palestinians that you think people only care about their brutal slaughter in the tens of thousands as "Jew Hate" and no other reason?

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Ignoring your whataboutery. I’m waiting with interest for @GrethaGreen ’s response to the lack of interest in Iran or Sudan. (Although we all know the answer really).

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:10

FasterMichelin · 16/02/2026 20:53

Let’s see if they protest for Afganistani women…

Spoiler: they won’t.

(Sorry about that, they definitely should. I do (or donate to that cause at least)

Martymcfly24 · 16/02/2026 21:10

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:06

How very convenient for you not to “award with a response” an argument that you find difficult to counter.

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Why do posters care so little about Palestinians that you think people only care about their brutal slaughter in the tens of thousands as "Jew Hate" and no other reason?

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:08

Go on @GrethaGreen, do enlighten me. Why is it that we see thousands of Palestine Action protestors each weekend, yet they don’t protest again the atrocities in Iran or Sudan. Please do favour me with your response rather than copping out entirely

BlakeCarrington · 16/02/2026 21:06

GrethaGreen · 16/02/2026 20:23

This is such a ridiculous argument. I see it all the time on MN. Shouldn’t be rewarded with a response.

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How very convenient for you not to “award with a response” an argument that you find difficult to counter.

crackofdoom · 16/02/2026 21:00

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 16/02/2026 17:53

Ahhh the holding Israel to a higher standard!!
Of course!

Until you remember that post 9/11 the USA and UK wiped out half a million civilians in the Middle East during the "War On Terror".
You know that whole thing where Islamic terrorists struck our sovreign nations (don't forget the tube) and our military might went "fuck this" and dragged most of Al Qaeda out of their tunnels while levelling the landscapes and killing whoever got in the damned way.

I don't remember any desire to "boycott" UK or American products at the time.
No parading on the streets in keffiyeh's declaring the murder of American office workers to be freedom fighting at it's finest, no catchy chants advocating for the eradication of sovereign nations.
I do remember the conspiracy theories circulating that Israel was responsible though, because the hatred is old and entrenched, as well as hotly denied, obvz.

Back to higher standards though, because Israel. 😂

Millions and millions of people in the UK joined protests against the war in Iraq.

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FasterMichelin · 16/02/2026 20:54

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why are you calling people bots?

If they’re not people, prove it?

FasterMichelin · 16/02/2026 20:53

Let’s see if they protest for Afganistani women…

PersephonePomegranate · 16/02/2026 20:51

HermioneWeasley · 16/02/2026 15:43

Because it’s not about human rights at all. Not even a little bit. It’s a convenient excuse to bash Jews.

Awful, but true.