People who park in child and parent spaces when they don't have kids.

This isn’t true for my supermarket as it’s also the same small car park for a huge gym and several other big shops.
It’s a ridiculous car park for the amount of traffic.
They’ve also taken half of the P&C spaces and converted them into electric car charging bays.
I’ve been cut up trying to park into one of the bays by a businessman in a huge BMW X5 😂
I found a normal space to park in, when I came back a different car had parked next to me and I couldn’t open the door wide enough to get my baby’s car seat in. I had to leave her on the path to pull my car forward.
It doesn’t bother me if people park in them if they’re disabled etc. but a lone person just running into the shop takes the piss. And no, the businessman wasn’t “picking up kids” because I bumped into him twice inside the shop as he was flying round with his basket.

First three years of my twins' lives the supermarket car park was like that riddle with the fox, the chicken and the grain. Somehow you can never get all the right people in the right place at the same time. Our Tescos had a 2 level car park and upstairs there were some random spaces next to the trolley park so I had a fighting chance of getting a double seated trolley next to the car. There were a lot of people on here at that time who acted like you were the height of entitlement if you wanted to be able to park next to the double trolley but then the same people would be in the "can I leave my kids in the car while I pay for petrol" thread telling you it was tantamount to neglect not to drag them all out onto the forecourt with you. It was a time in my life when I really learned to stop fucking people pleasing, there's nothing like looking after small children 24/7 to flush out the absolute bampots in your life and on social media.

Absolutely your needs are far higher go ahead!

I have had great fun with this in the past.

I was in a busy car park that had a few spaces left but very tight ones and someone in front took the last parent and child space with clearly no child in the car. I did manage to find a space nearby and really struggled to fit kids out the car.
On returning I noticed that I had just beaten selfish twat back to the car. So I reversed out the space and was to one side of the main lane, enough space for other drivers to get past easily but blocking selfish twat from getting out their space. My wife and I then had to put two kids (6 months and 2) in the car, disassemble the double pram, move around a few bags, make sure we have checked the sat nav, remember that we needed to get back out and get some snacks for oldest, forget that I didn't put a blanket over youngest and finally about 6 minutes later be ready to drive off cheerfully waving at other driver to thank them for waiting!

Your needs trump theirs.

Interesting, seemingly full support for use with the wheelchair pending blue badge. It honestly wouldn't have occurred to me. Thank you.

Yes, definitely do.

My youngest is 3, so about 18 months ago. Tbh I think part of the issue is everyone thinking they need a massive SUV because they have kids. I didn't buy one and never had any issues parking. If all the spaces were super tight I'd just head to the back of the carpark.

P&C parking just isn't essential, I get vaguely annoyed when I see some douchebag using it without kids for sure but it's a minor inconvenience not being able to use it. Unlike being unable to find blue badge parking which can genuinely prevent people from being able to go about their day.

Cars and car seats were designed very differently, it’s very clear to see that.

We were so glad we have you here to declare that parents of young children do not need any consideration in the spacing of parking spaces and the proximity to safe routes to the walkways.

And it’s not just the width of these huge cars either, it’s the length too. They often stick out about a foot over the line of the space!

I always park the furthest away, to get my steps in. When my children were small, these spaces did not exist. I just wonder how we ever managed.

I’ll do it if there are lots of empty ones and it’s the only shady section in a car park if I have my dog with me when it’s slightly warmer. Before you all pile on I don’t take my dog in the car where I need to park for a while when it’s hot.

I would like shady spaces in cars parks so we can all be happy.

I understand health or helping elderly parents as good reasons.

But the "my car is expensive" people deserve a nice slap of ice cream or a piece of bubble gum from a child getting to and from the next car. Just as a small karma for their selfishness.

You absolutely should.

Absolutely you should.

Of course you should use it without a second thought.

I am suggesting that nobody needs it. So it isn't a big deal to me who parks there.

You absolutely should.

This thread is making me think that maybe I should use P&C spaces when I have my brother with me, pending a blue badge after a stroke and in a wheelchair ...

I just can't get worked up over it. I think because I save my rage for people who aren't disabled and park in disabled bays. P&C parking is nice to have, but not essential. Parking in it without kids is a dick move for sure, but it's really not the end of the world if I have to use a normal space with the kids whereas when we're out with my disabled niece, we literally have to go home if we can't find adequate parking. Keeps it all in perspective I guess.

Right, but threads evolve into an open discussion, but for some reason the discussion always revolves around whether the parent actually needs the space, as opposed to saying hang on, why does the entitled childless person need it?

As someone who had newborn twins and a just-turned 2 year old, P&C spaces and a large car were a necessity. For context, I drove a Ford S-max which had 3 bulky car seats in a row (not many cars have that capability). The two year old was one end and newborns were middle and other side. Now, trying to get a newborn baby out of the middle car seat was impossible without opening the door wide. Putting the toddler in the middle wouldn’t have made a difference as I still needed to help him get in and strapped. Parking further away where it was quiet was a risk incase others parked either side of me. I tried not to shop with all of them often but sometimes I had no choice. So, P&C spaces are not a luxury but a necessity for many people.

Probably because that's who made the post 🤷🏻‍♂️

I have kids. A normal sized space is fine.

Nah, I really don't care to be honest.

Most non supermarket car parks don't have P&C spaces and we all seem to manage.