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Wraparound care at school cancelled

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Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 22:37

I’ve just opened an email from our school sent last thing on Friday saying they can no longer operate wraparound care as it’s not viable due to lower numbers since last term. They said they tried to find a solution but unfortunately there isn’t one. They didn’t even consult us parents who use it and ask us for more money or even say to the wider school use it or lose it, just decided to close it in March. I would gladly have paid more or had a discussion to figure out how to make it viable.

I work in a non wfh business 4 full 9-5 days a week, Thursday I work until 2.30 so I can pick them up at 3.15pm once a week. The children attend 4 days a week after school. Husband works in a production/manufacturing role and he is going to see what his work will let him reduce hours wise but we know that means pay reduction.

there are no childminders in our area, no nanny’s on childcare websites, the last childminder closed during Covid, we sadly don’t have family in the country so no help there, and the nearest school with wraparound is over 8 miles in the other direction of my work. I don’t really have any friends to ask either, we are quite new here we do know school parents but we don’t have the kind of relationships which some seem to have with each other to ask them to take our children home to theirs after school for nearly 3 hours. That’s a huge ask and I don’t know anyone who would do it.

just so upset and stressed tonight lots of tears and worry about what we do now. I don’t even know what to say to my work, the kind of job I do I can’t do from home and we can’t afford for me to lose it. Aren’t school supposed to consult and figure out how to help make it work?

feeling so panicked about this happening and sad as the children enjoyed the activities at after school and we were able to work knowing they were looked after 😓

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SpringingOn · 16/02/2026 04:38

Can you contact the parents of other children who are also using ASC currently? Maybe arrange some kind of regular swap? Sorry this is happening- it sounds really stressful.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 16/02/2026 02:54

FancyCatSlave · 15/02/2026 23:23

Good schools don’t think like that at all. Our trust is made up of very tiny rural schools but wraparound care is provided at a loss as an essential part of the school day.

No parent should be forced to work part time or not work to facilitate schooling, that sort of attitude is why the gender pay gap still pervades. Women are are not meant to sacrifice themselves so they can hang around the school gates at 3pm.

Eurrghh, the fact that some women think that is ok just boils my piss.

It's not seen as an essential part of the school day though. Schools don't have to provide it. I was amazed DSs school don't have after school club, just breakfast club, but obviously there's not enough interest.
If ASC runs at a loss then it's taking money from other areas of the school.
That's going to annoy a lot of parents.

DrCoconut · 16/02/2026 02:08

FancyCatSlave · 15/02/2026 23:23

Good schools don’t think like that at all. Our trust is made up of very tiny rural schools but wraparound care is provided at a loss as an essential part of the school day.

No parent should be forced to work part time or not work to facilitate schooling, that sort of attitude is why the gender pay gap still pervades. Women are are not meant to sacrifice themselves so they can hang around the school gates at 3pm.

Eurrghh, the fact that some women think that is ok just boils my piss.

I have to limit my work hours to accommodate school runs. The after school club closed and then my childminder went out of business during the COVID lock downs. There is now no one else picking up from our school. Moving school is not an option as the other realistic option distance wise cannot meet my DS's needs (SEN). As a single mum it's left me stuck on universal credit as my earnings are limited. It always amuses me on here when people say "just book a childminder" or "use an after school club". There aren't any! I have some family help but not every day as that is not a reasonable ask for my elderly parents or adult DC.

Hobbit90 · 16/02/2026 01:36

Email the local authority, under the childcare act they have a legal obligation to ensure sufficient childcare places for working parents, including out of school and wraparound. Particularly at the moment there is a huge push for this due to the government agenda to support working parents. They will likely get involved and support the school to either make it viable via a cash boost or they will put it out to tender to a private company to take over.

RawBloomers · 16/02/2026 01:33

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 15/02/2026 23:10

' Aren’t school supposed to consult and figure out how to help make it work?'

Once upon a time children went to school to be educated.

Now schools are used as childcare.

Clearly the wraparound was running at a loss - 2 staff members for 2 ? or more hours on min wage = £12.60 x 2, x 2 hours or more plus all the add on expenses of NI and pension etc. plus tea ( sandwich yogurt fruit ) plus electricity plus
materials for crafts etc.

and the parents are paying what ?

Our local school gave notice 2/3 weeks ago that after half term the asc will finish at 5pm instead of 6pm as there was approx one child 3 days a week from 5-6pm

I'm not sure why you think children can't go to school for both. Schools have been childcare since the 1800s. Their role in enabling parents (mothers) to work in factories unencumbered by children was fundamental to increased productivity and safety. That politicians didn't like to talk about how important this was until the state's need for women to work was driven by WWII doesn't mean it hasn't always been a big part of the state education system. And for the last nearly 30 years the National Childcare Strategy has set out quite clearly how important schools' role as a source of childcare is to the economic health of the country.

Creepybookworm · 16/02/2026 01:17

FancyCatSlave · 15/02/2026 23:23

Good schools don’t think like that at all. Our trust is made up of very tiny rural schools but wraparound care is provided at a loss as an essential part of the school day.

No parent should be forced to work part time or not work to facilitate schooling, that sort of attitude is why the gender pay gap still pervades. Women are are not meant to sacrifice themselves so they can hang around the school gates at 3pm.

Eurrghh, the fact that some women think that is ok just boils my piss.

But if schools run wraparound care at a loss a few parents' childcare is being funded at the detriment of other children. The loss comes from other parts of the school budget. That might boil other parents piss.

Saz12 · 16/02/2026 00:51

Can you coordinate with other parents - you do Thursday, others cover remaining 4 days? Not ideal.

Ohfudgeoff · 16/02/2026 00:20

BringBackCatsEyes · 16/02/2026 00:14

Do you know how many other children use the current service? I'd be interested to find out what they will do.
I think we all understand that school isn't childcare, but it's not unreasonable for OP to have used the service they offered and to be upset that it is being removed with no consultation and very little notice.

But it would be/would have been naive to assume the service would have longevity knowing the low numbers and extremely low reception intake. Naive not to consider alternative childcare provision, particularly in a situation where there is no 'village' to lean on in times of need and in a remote rural setting.

Fifthtimelucky · 16/02/2026 00:20

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 22:58

Honestly such a disaster it’s a small school and their numbers are always a worry but why would you close a service which ideally should attract more parents who need to work and can’t do a 3.15pm pick up every day 😣

Presumably because it didn’t attract more parents who need to work and can’t do a 3.15 pick-up!

Whilst the school could run this service at a loss, that would obviously have an impact on provision elsewhere. As it’s such a small school it won’t have many options for making the necessary savings from its core provision. It could possibly sack a teacher or a TA or two, but the school presumably took the decision that the best course of action for the majority of pupils was to close the after school provision.

I’m not unsympathetic, especially given the short notice. There was no after-school provision at my children’s school until the younger one was in year 6, but I was lucky that a neighbour with children of a similar age agreed to look after mine before and after school. I hope you can find a suitable alternative arrangement.

BringBackCatsEyes · 16/02/2026 00:14

Do you know how many other children use the current service? I'd be interested to find out what they will do.
I think we all understand that school isn't childcare, but it's not unreasonable for OP to have used the service they offered and to be upset that it is being removed with no consultation and very little notice.

stichguru · 16/02/2026 00:02

GhettoSnoopystar · 15/02/2026 23:46

Now schools are used as childcare.

I’ve never understood what people mean by this?

Schools aren't there to provide childcare. They are there to educate the children. If they have lots of children who need care at the beginning and end of the day, they normally try to provide it, but it isn't what they are there for. If they run care they have to be able to pay at least two staff members, pay the caretaker long hours, pay the cleaners to come back to clean where after school club has used later in the day. Even if those people are minimum wage that's about to be £12.21 per hour - 3-6pm is 3 hours, that's £36.63 per person who has to stay on, that's at least £73.26 per night for the two staffing the club. Plus something for heating and lighting and resources, and maybe for the caretaker if they had to come back to lock up. That could easily work out at £100 per night, maybe more. I'm really sorry you are in this situation, but you can't blame the school for not running the club at a loss.

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 23:57

Does the school 30 mins away have wraparound?

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:51

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:48

That would be a great compromise if you can both do this. How old are the kids? Hopefully it won't be too long until you can go back to working normal hours once they're a bit older.

9 7 and just turned 6 so a long way to go get really

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TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:48

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:45

I mentioned him in my first post he works in a business which is hands on, needs to be present line management of people operating machinery etc so not much flexibility but he is going to ask first thing tomorrow if it’s a possibility to start at 7 and finish at 2.30 twice a week. Then I’ll ask my boss the same for the other two days.

That would be a great compromise if you can both do this. How old are the kids? Hopefully it won't be too long until you can go back to working normal hours once they're a bit older.

GhettoSnoopystar · 15/02/2026 23:46

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 15/02/2026 23:10

' Aren’t school supposed to consult and figure out how to help make it work?'

Once upon a time children went to school to be educated.

Now schools are used as childcare.

Clearly the wraparound was running at a loss - 2 staff members for 2 ? or more hours on min wage = £12.60 x 2, x 2 hours or more plus all the add on expenses of NI and pension etc. plus tea ( sandwich yogurt fruit ) plus electricity plus
materials for crafts etc.

and the parents are paying what ?

Our local school gave notice 2/3 weeks ago that after half term the asc will finish at 5pm instead of 6pm as there was approx one child 3 days a week from 5-6pm

Now schools are used as childcare.

I’ve never understood what people mean by this?

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:46

RetiredGranny · 15/02/2026 23:44

If you are in England, talk to your Family Information Service or Early Years and Childcare Team at your local Council https://finder.familyandchildcaretrust.org/kb5/fct/childcarefinder/home.page as they may not be aware that the provision is closing.

Also, not all childminders advertise and your Family Information Service can contact them on your behalf to see if they can help.

Thank you I hadn’t realised this, I’ll have a good look through

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Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:45

Ohfudgeoff · 15/02/2026 23:42

Where is your partner in all this, OP? Since previous poster raised the point of sacrifice falling on women.

Does your partner/DH work flexibly?

I mentioned him in my first post he works in a business which is hands on, needs to be present line management of people operating machinery etc so not much flexibility but he is going to ask first thing tomorrow if it’s a possibility to start at 7 and finish at 2.30 twice a week. Then I’ll ask my boss the same for the other two days.

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RetiredGranny · 15/02/2026 23:44

If you are in England, talk to your Family Information Service or Early Years and Childcare Team at your local Council https://finder.familyandchildcaretrust.org/kb5/fct/childcarefinder/home.page as they may not be aware that the provision is closing.

Also, not all childminders advertise and your Family Information Service can contact them on your behalf to see if they can help.

Childcare Finder

Childcare Finder

https://finder.familyandchildcaretrust.org/kb5/fct/childcarefinder/home.page

Ohfudgeoff · 15/02/2026 23:42

Where is your partner in all this, OP? Since previous poster raised the point of sacrifice falling on women.

Does your partner/DH work flexibly?

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:42

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:38

Is there any chance you could reduce your hours for 2 of your longer days and DH reduced his hours for the other two days? I know it may be a bit of a financial hit but I can't see any other viable option for you in this situation.

I think this is what we will have to do just need our bosses to approve given our jobs it’s not going to be the easiest task

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Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:40

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:39

I'd also be concerned they might actually shut down the school if enrolment doesn't improve too.

Yes this could now be a worry too

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Ohfudgeoff · 15/02/2026 23:40

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:37

It’s a Church of England school but our numbers are down massively this year due to a few moves and a big head count of year 6 leavers last year. Reception only had 5 enrolments in sep 2025 which was apparently half what they anticipated.

So they have half the budget of last year but still the same overheads, staffing costs,. heating bills etc. Not really a wonder they've had to pull it tbh.

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:39

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:37

It’s a Church of England school but our numbers are down massively this year due to a few moves and a big head count of year 6 leavers last year. Reception only had 5 enrolments in sep 2025 which was apparently half what they anticipated.

I'd also be concerned they might actually shut down the school if enrolment doesn't improve too.

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 15/02/2026 23:38

Is there any chance you could reduce your hours for 2 of your longer days and DH reduced his hours for the other two days? I know it may be a bit of a financial hit but I can't see any other viable option for you in this situation.

Ohfudgeoff · 15/02/2026 23:38

Citytocountry1 · 15/02/2026 23:31

This is it, we are rural so it’s even more limited than it’s ever been. The school were promoting the service to try and attract new reception children this September which is why I can’t believe they are now doing this

Because they attracted the new intake, job done goal achieved.

The school were struggling, the school are still struggling.

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