To deliberately use public funds as an income for courses you have no intention to pay back or use to get a job forever?

You don’t have the full story here because in order for her not to have a work seeking criteria under her UC she must be telling them she’s in education. They will then deduct her student loan off her UC total. She will still be entitled to some UC due to having children but a large percentage will be deductible due to student loan.

As others said the government will only fund one completed degree unless it’s in something like healthcare (and if she wasn’t going in she’d be booted off the course) so how is she getting funding to do all of these degrees? If this is what she’s telling you then it’s what she would like you to believe.

Very easy. Sign up to 1, great. Sign up to 2nd because you have dropped out of 1st, possibly OK. Sign up to 3rd. You pay for it AND NO STATE BENEFITS. Quite frankly I don't care what you do as a private citizen, but if you want me to pay for you then you complete the course and get trained. Mental health - couldn't give a fuck. Issues - couldn't give a fuck. Whatever - couldn't give a fuck. Etc. I was happy to pay to support people to get training. But no longer, when people take the piss. Don't complete the training, no state benefits. It needs to be that simple. An offer to improve your skills for work in exchange for support from the state. Yes of course there will always be people who cannot access the workplace but that number needs to be much smaller than current numbers.

How do you stop people signing up to courses?
I have started (and dropped out of) loads. It is always with the best of intentions.

My brother did a lot of short term state funded courses when he was claiming benefits and thought he was too good to apply for jobs @25k,yes London, and years ago. He would actually have been very competent at many of them eg coding. It angered me. A lot. He needed to work, not prat around pretending to be a film maker. He died recently in his 50s. Not having ever achieved his dream nor having ever used anything from the state funded courses. That has to stop. NOW. As a country we cannot afford to support people who choose not to contribute. Mental health has become a cop out. My brother perhaps did have mental health issues but also chose to manipulate the system. Fuck it - i am not paying for that any more.

Yep know several of these characters - it is nothing but playing the system and they gleefully boast about it. Why do people not wake up to this?

Also, I have not attempted full time education since being on UC, but I have a friend who wanted to do a uni course whilst on ESA and she was told she would lose her ESA entitlement as if she could attend a full time course then she would be considered fit for work.

Thank you, I thought it was impossible. I'll look into what I could do.

@PaperBlueCornflower List of NHS careers and funding details
https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/nhs-learning-support-fund-lsf

The second degree unless a specific type like said above, she won’t get finance for

I opened this thread and genuinely thought it was about me. It isn't though (I don't have kids).
I am on UC due to several mental health issues, and I am awaiting assessment for both ADHD and autism.
I have worked, but I have also spent a hell of a lot of time and money attempting courses.
I have been to uni twice, and had a conditional offer for another time (I failed the Access course and gave up trying again). My last uni attempt was fully funded by the NHS, and I had a small amount of bursary too. I had to drop out due a massive breakdown. I still have student loan hanging over my head from my first attempt at uni which was about 27 years ago.
Lots of money spent and wasted on OU courses, evening courses, and recently I tried one of the government funded level 2 courses (in mental health), and I could not even do that. Turns out I can not do self directed study. I need a class room and a teacher.
At school, I just about got my GCSEs. I dropped out of A-levels.
Every few years I come up with a career I want to do, and burnout just trying. It is exhausting, and I hate I am like this.

Teaching, nursing and some other health jobs.

It sounds like a really uncomfortable situation for you.

It's four years funding for a degree. If they accept exceptional circumstances you may get five. If she's managed to get a degree she won't get funding for another one unless it's teaching or health related and she wouldn't be able to take the piss because of having to work on placements.
Another course may accept her but then she'll be billed personally for the fees, wouldn't get the support funding and if she becomes a debtor to the university they'll exit her. There's a separate loan system for postgraduate but if she's not got a good degree she's unlikely to be accepted for that.

Can you tell me what sort of thing might I be able to get funding for in order to retrain? Decades since first degree and looking for a route to retrain after years of caring.

Universal credit deduct student finance pound for pound.

You can’t get SF for multiple degrees.

Are you sure your “facts” are right OP?

You can't. There's no way you can get multiple loans to do multiple degrees. Just saying it's the case doesn't make it the case.

Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it but Student Finance England (SFE) will only give you loans to fund for 4 years.

If she'd started a course and later dropped out, that would be one of her years gone. If she dropped out after 2 years and then started a new degree she would only get funding for 2 years and would have to self fund her 3rd year.

It is not possible to secure funding to do multiple degrees.

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