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To partially disagree with the argument about the 'second shift' made by some WASPIS?

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 19:47

I know that workplace discrimination was rife for women who were born in the 1950s. Lack of childcare etc. I'm not disputing that.

I disagree partly with the argument made by some WASPIS that the 'second shift' (housework/childcare) they had to do while in paid work is important to their case.

For one thing, women in the 1970s & 80s were more likely to work less hours, work part-time. Men were more likely to work longer hours, do more overtime. Obviously this was fuelled by discrimination, lack of childcare that I mentioned above.

This ties to my other point : in the 70s & 80s raising children was often less labour-intensive than today, in the sense that children played out a lot more, ferrying to many activities was less common, parental input even in primary school was generally a bit less intense than expected often today. Studies (I'll link) have shown mothers (and fathers) spend longer with their kids today, whether or not they work.

So I suppose my point is: did that many WASPI age women experience a second shift as such?
I'm not disputing the misogyny of the era often but otoh if childcare was less labour-intensive than today, and many women were SAHM, part time, and less likely to work overtime, were a lot of women necessarily experiencing a 'second shift' in the sense of spending more hours working than their husband? In this equation, housework and childcare are counted as work, as well as paid work.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 19:59

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2026/01/09/millennials-spend-more-time-than-past-generations-with-their-children%23:~:text%3DData%2520from%2520the%2520American%2520Heritage,more%2520fatherly%2520facetime%2520is%2520clear.&ved=2ahUKEwjBqb74odySAxVjQ0EAHb5FBR4Q1fkOegQIBRAN&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw20JKXEbE58iGq9ucHt0x_J&ust=1771271304443000

Here's one article claiming this, though I do need to check. There does seem to be evidence that childcare has become more intensive in the last 20-30 years.

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