What is going on? Epstein

If you’re charged with a crime in the United States, you have the right to a speedy trial.

Nearly half a million people are held on remand awaiting trial in America, many for many years. The delays in the system are notorious.

There is an email in the files discussing a male victim clearly stating they had been raped by george bush previously.
whether you believe it’s true or not is a different matter i suppose

Did you mean that to be so funny.

Intestines literally are tripe!

Michael Jackson, as we all know, was a child molester. The suggestion that he was trying to protect children is bizarre. Sounds like a lot of Jackson superfans trying to make him look innocent by spinning these stories. Don't buy it. It's laughable in itself.

What a load of tripe. Hardly evidence based 🙄

There's no suggestion that Andrew is a pedophile though right? Or that he raped anyone (unless you're counting having sex with Virginia Giuffre as statutory?).

He couldn't have gone on trial for the Guffrie incidents because the statue of limitations had passed. That's why she sued in civil court.

What are you suggesting he goes on trial for?

I get there is a movie coming out to make even more money out of MJ- but come on this is ridiculous.

This man shared his beds with CHILDREN by his own admission. Any other man would have been locked in jail years ago.

You can argue until the sun is blue that he never had sexual contact with minors, but he did groom their families for access and he did separate them for his own personal benefit.

In my opinion that is child abuse.

Thanks. 😊 I’m a SAHM currently, but I’ve had an active law license in my state since 2012.

Oh ok it just seems odd that you brought it up as a drawing as you say means nothing at all. Just an image the artist thought was funny, provocative etc

not sure if you mean my post but i said picture, not photo. A picture can also be a drawing or a painting right? like i tell my DD she’s drawn a nice picture 🤷‍♀️ Either way, the drawing itself isn’t incriminating but is weird and nothing would surprise me these days

I’m not saying that, the picture could mean nothing says all but it’s weird 🤷‍♀️ I like Obama and haven’t seen anything in the files from what i’ve read so far to imply he was involved in anything. There’s many on here though along the lines of Obama could never do that, too nice etc.
But in my opinion, as with most politicians the nice guy image is an act. I doubt you become president being a nice guy all the time. Im sure he had to ruin a few lives along the way 😬

My brother sexually abused me and my sister when she was a pre-teen and I was in my early teens. We have almost no contact with him, in fact I can't recall the last time I saw him. So in answer to your question, yes I would cut him loose to fend for himself.

Lol @ Michael Jackson protecting young boys who were never going to be taken to Epstein's island ffs.

He was a fucking peado and anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally unstable and I certainly wouldn't trust them to look after my kids.

But the list just lists anyone whose name is mentioned in the files. Not just people who were involved with Epstein directly. Sometimes it’s just that Epstein asked to meet someone. The Mail has a handy collection outlining what connection each of the names mentioned had with Epstein.
https://mol.im/a/15530667

Maybe the wrong file has posted but that’s a drawing not a photo?

"There’s also a picture from the files, allegedly a bathroom in Epstein’s house with a plane of Obama and other presidents boarding it (holding a red bag, which has occult links apparently)."

Oh well, lock them up so 🤣 🤣 🤣

there was no call on Clinton to release the files- none of us had any idea about this in the late 90s when he was president and in fact it seems like Epstein was most powerful and active after Bill Clinton was no longer president.

no surpise at all that he’s in there though, and I can well believe he would’ve hidden them if they’d come to light when he was in office

i think it’s unfair to accuse Biden of the same though

maybe now

ah shit i can’t work mumsnet

here’s the pic

There’s also a picture from the files, allegedly a bathroom in Epstein’s house with a plane of Obama and other presidents boarding it (holding a red bag, which has occult links apparently).

There is a lot of speculation and exaggeration, but the files do confirm what has been speculated for years re. Paedo code language, and when it’s applied to the emails it is horrific what it actually implies if true. I first heard about satanic sex abuse from a book i’d read from a victim of a belgian ring in the 90’s that was busted involving prominent politicians. It said there were wider global networks and at the time I wondered if it was genuine or exaggerated as it seemed so crazy and far fetched. Then 8+ years later this all happened along with pdiddy and so on.

It sounds crazy, and it will be hard to separate the truth but it wouldn’t surprise me if there are nice ones on the list who are guilty as well, even if we don’t want them to be (Obama isn’t on the named list but Michelle is). They’ll want us to not believe it, roll our eyes and get back to work (before you start ‘they’ are the ones on the list and those in power who knew and didn’t care).

Outstanding post and very well explained. The hope is that an army of prosecutors are building up a case against these men that is water tight.

That’s the hope.

That said, It’s utterly sickening that they may very well get away with their heinous acts 😞

Who would put him on trial for what and what would AMW go to jail for?!

Doesn't matter whose brother. Andrew should have a trial and go to jail like all other rapists and pedofiles.

Wasn't it the queen who paid Virginia Giuffre?