12pts in a week - driving ban

Sympathy for you, OP. I had two letters this week for speeding on the same stretch of road (journeys there and back) and am now awaiting notification of my punishment - hoping a speed awareness course will save me three points. But it's blinkin' annoying after having my licence clean for 52 years to have blotted my copybook for being 5mph over the limit.
As others have said, if you do the course you shouldn't get a ban.
Sending good wishes xx

a similar thing happened to somebody I know

OP if you have no other convictions you should get offered a speed awareness course for one of the fines. Or have they explicitly said it’s 12 points and a ban?

The probelm is if the OP choses Court she might forfeit her right to a Speed awareness course. And going to Court does not guranatee a positive outcome, however there is chance she will only get 9 points and a curse if she takes it. I would be afraid to risk it but considering people have had good experiences with Court maybe she is lucky. But even so, if she goes to court she might not be banned but given the full 12 points? Is a risk no matter how you look at it. I would not know what to do.

Haven’t they offered speed awareness course instead of points? Or maybe they don’t if it is multiple

Go to Google Maps in Street View and see if there are any signs.

Go to court and contest it. If you have such a careful record there can’t have been good enough signage. And yes they DO take loss of employment into account it’s ridiculous to think they wouldn’t.

Please stop advising people shit like that! Speeding is a mistake, lying about it take you the next step up to a criminal dishonesty offence. OP, whatever you do, don't do that!

Do you have legal cover on your insurance policy OP? It's usually always offered for an additional fee (£20ish) If so, call them for advice.

Volunteer testing an a driverless car, Op.

No, just take all legal advice and front up to court contrite.

You need a good solicitor who specialises in potential bans. They will appoint a barrister to speak on your behalf in court. It’ll cost about £1500 plus any fine you get. Plead hardship via the affects any potential ban would have on family members (or your job). Ie caring for elderly parents or children. Detrimental affect on your family etc. Ask the barrister to schedule a date where the magistrates are hearing similar cases and where they will have time to state your case in detail (20 mins). The fact that you have a flawless driving history and that all points were on same road in the same week will be looked on favourably. Last but not least wait for the paperwork to come through to make sure they are taking this to court and not just offering you a speed awareness course! Breathe. It’s not an automatic ban if you go to court - plenty of people out there driving on more than 12 points

Very self righteous and you sound ridiculous. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury was done recently.

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Somebody who worked for my husband got to 12 points - DH went to court and said the guy would lose his job if he lost his license (which was true), gave a character reference and he kept his license.

Even though it was the same thing on the same bit of road, it was still an offence (and a potential danger) each time. Check that the correct signs were there as it seems odd to miss them so many times. Then hope for leniency - and be more vigilant in future. You do have my sympathy though.

If you don’t have anything previous you should be able to do a speed awareness course for the first one. Then it’s 9 points. Still not great and very frustrating but better than a ban.

20 mph is a ridiculous low speed unless it’s outside a school. There used to be hardly any 20 speed zones, but the government has probably caught on that there’s money to be made. Amazing how the police don’t have the resources to visit a house which as been burgled (arrived 3 days later), but they seem to have enough of them to park in a car at the side of the road for 8 hours catching motorists driving at 25mph in a 20 mile zone on a quiet road. This is what happened in our local area recently. I’m all for stopping people speeding around at stupid speeds, but think the 20mph speed limit is just a money making exercise and nothing to do with trying to reduce accidents.

Years ago my mother in in law exceeded the speed limit - she did over 100 on a motorway! A camera got her. Completely out of character for her but this was before I knew her!

She was 250 miles away from home . She was summoned to court but she worked as a carer and needed to drive for her job. The judge was sympathetic and didn’t ban her- but gave her points.

She also had the inconvenience of going to court where it happened- 250 miles away. So an expensive mistake aswell as very time consuming.

I even think her employer were sympathetic and actually wrote a letter to the court- I’ve no idea if that swayed their decision though.

As for the OP’s case, because these offences happened so close together, the court will hopefully treat this as one speeding offence and offer a speed awareness course.

But I would certainly seek legal advice on this case. Yes it will cost money , but could save you a lot of hassle and a potential ban.

I used to drive buses for a job.We all make mistakes sometimes. It’s easy to mis read a sign on unfamiliar roads.

I know someone who talked their way out of a ban and my god he should have been banned for life! Definitely had a few offences previously (and at one time tried to get his wife to declare she was driving) but he said he had to be able to drive (arguable). No idea what reasons he gave.

Check Google street view

Ah ha, thank you @Lilyfreedom

Exceptional Hardship. A person who is a "totter" (i.e. have twelve points on their licence, as the OP does) must be disqualified from driving for six months, unless they can demonstrate that to disqualify them would cause them "exceptional hardship". It is a high hurdle (any driving disqualification is likely to result in hardship) but loss of employment is a strong argument, in my view.

This does not apply to offences such as drink driving, which involve a mandatory disqualification of at least 12 months.

As the parent of a child who was hit on her way home from school, by a driver doing just over 30 in a 20 (who claimed he thought it was still 30 in that part), I do not sympathise at all. Anywhere you drive, you need to be aware of the speed limit. It is your responsibility as the driver. My daughter, by some miracle, did not die, but has life long physical and mental effects from her injuries
Take the fine, suck up the ban, and perhaps be a more aware and cautious driver in future?

Exactly. Surely there has to be some flexibility and rational thinking. Each case should be judged individually.

I read a newspaper article some years back where a man drove on an unfamiliar motorway several times in a week to find he’d racked up 12 points. It went to court and it was decided that he hadn’t had the chance to essentially learn his lesson and so he didnt lose his license. Sounds like you may need a solicitor. Good luck I hope they’re able to cut you some slack