12pts in a week - driving ban

repeater signs are not mandatory

I don't think it would make any difference. You could have 9 points on your licence and still be eligible for a speed awareness course.

wisdom from @grumpygrape But you don't necessarily use solicitor to do it. Read up about it online and you could easily do it yourself.

The actual purpose of keeping somebody on nine points is not to be kind as such, but it means they're under the cosh to drive well for three years! 🙄 (until the first lot of points fall off)
totting only gets you a mandatory min six months ban

OP, I’ve only read your posts so sorry if this is saying what you have already been told.

If you can afford a solicitor, do so and go to Court. If you are a ‘totter’, some one who is in danger of getting 12 points and having their License taken away, you should be able to go to Court to argue your case.

You or your solicitor needs to explain the circumstances, strange location, not realising the limit, not exceeding the 30mph you thought it was, time proximity of journeys so not getting the first ticket and continuing to break the limit regardless.Apologise, be contrite, explain previous clean record and confirm you have learned to take more notice in strange environments in future. Offer to take a course if offered and ask for the number and proximity of time to be taken into account. Ask if the Magistrates can see their way to not give the full 12 points, or if they do, to not disqualify.

If you do get 12 points and face disqualification you may be able to plead Exceptional Hardship. This really should be exceptional. Losing a job is not usually a valid reason because most people will be able to function without their license for a while. A solicitor would be able to advise you.

Try not to minimise what you have done by criticising the signs (unless you can prove there weren’t any or they were covered by foliage etc., and/or you don’t think it’s fair or the limit is wrong, or that boy racers get away with it all the time; this is about you and the law.

First thing, as someone else proposed, go back and check the entire route with a video camera to see if the road is correctly signposted.

second thing, contact an expert barrister here:

http://www.counsel.direct

he specialises in traffic law and he is fairly priced and excellent, he is honest and not money grabbing, if he can help you legally it’s worth every penny.

good luck, you made a mistake and unfortunately repeated it over and over, with awful consequences. Seems insanely harsh punishment.

You'd have to ask the council - I'm not in charge of how the signs work, I'm just saying what our town is like.

There is a speed limit sign as you enter (one side is 20, the other is 30) and that's it. There's no other signs until the 30 "side" changes (to NSL on one road and down to 20mph on another).

They'll still know you've had tickets prior to that one though. It's all computerised.

Not really - we live very rurally. If you've not driven here, someone else has driven you. There's no pavement access from anywhere else.

Not if you send in the lowest speed first then wait until you get offered the course then send the others in

I spent 20 years of my life sentencing on this, and I'm definitely rusty, but some of the stuff being spouted on this thread is a load of shit

And why would you not just increase the likelihood that people would drive within the speed limit by putting up signs?

Yeah, they're tightened up on this a lot recently

Presumably it is possible to enter the town without driving a car?

Friend of mine, who was nabbed for speeding, successfully appealed in court against a driving ban on the grounds that it would cause him exceptional hardship due to him not being able to do his sales job. He had no dependents - if you have them, you use them as an argument, but his job was his sole source of income, and he was important to his employer, so the hardship would have spread to them. Loss of employment can be used as part of a successful "Exceptional Hardship" argument if you can prove that the consequences of losing your job are "exceptional" and go far beyond standard inconvenience.

It doesn't matter - because you'll have had to drive over the bridge to park your car there to begin with (there is no other road in).

It doesn't work like that, though.

They'll be dealt with in date order, not from "lowest to highest".

What if you get in a car and start driving on the other side of the bridge? If there are no signs, the default speed limit where there is regular street lighting is 30mph.

ETA: in England obvs. its 20mph in Wales.

Why ever not? Can’t you drive properly?
Best you don’t rally if you can’t. Better not go t9 London, or Bristol or Birmingham or any one of 60 local authorities in England which have 20mph zones. Could be quite limiting. Or you could learn to drive properly.

Have you checked the signage on Google earth? Take some screenshots and also go back there if you can

Apparently the offences have to have been incurred on the same day to be treated as one

That sounds reasonable, @PrincessofWells; after all, depending on how many cameras there are, someone could easily be caught by more than one after failing to notice signs once ... but if it's been on four separate days I fail to see where the defence comes in

And for the few sneering about people being "holier than thou", try being half crippled by someone else who "didn't see" and you may well feel differently about this

They’ll do it in date of offence order not date received

We live next door to Wales.
We don't visit any more.

In wales it doesn’t have to be on the road at regular intervals. 20 is the default speed limit

Can you do a speed awareness course for the first offence? That would mean you would only get 9pts for the remaining offences.

If not then I would also try the court route and hope the judge takes mercy on you given your previously long and clean driving history, and perhaps agrees to reduce it to 9 so you’re essentially on your last chance, which I think would be ‘fair’.