To think Lowe is going to wipe the floor with Farage?

Reform and Lowe's new even more right wing party are not parties for ordinary working class people though, they are Parties run by and for rich people exploiting poorer people's anxieties.
I was born and brought up in a council house, my family is firmly working class, I resent the implication that all working class people are concerned about is immigration and therefore drawn towards these far right parties. Most of us are not.
Most of us are much too intelligent to be taken in by the rhetoric and more concerned about the price of food and rent to worry about the very small number of asylum seekers.
Besides latest numbers actually suggest we could have negative migration soon anyway and we will probably have to beg people to come over here.

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.

Rupert has done more than any of the other parties to highlight the abuse of British girls by "grooming gangs".

Yep, that's the hope.

Repatriate, Remove, Regress. A party who's values are on its R's.?

Rupert has done more than any of the other parties to highlight the abuse of British girls by "grooming gangs".

What's his new party, again? Refurbish? Recycle?

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.

None of the parties support or speak for the common man. They all universally despise the working class.

Rupert has done more than any of the other parties to highlight the abuse of British girls by "grooming gangs".

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.

The thing is and I say this as someone married to a highly clever working class man who doesn'tvote Reform. The reason people think the Reform voters are stupid is because they can't see that they're being played.
Its not to do with immigration, it's about making billionaires richer and more powerful.
I'll tell you who has the most contempt for working class people, its Farage.

Goodness me! How do you know these people?

Rupert has done more than any of the other parties to highlight the abuse of British girls by "grooming gangs".

Rupert has done more than any of the other parties to highlight the abuse of British girls by "grooming gangs".

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.

I know quite a few ex reformers that now support Lowe, as they think reform taking conservative MPs will dilute the party and as conservatives didn't ' solve' the problems when they had the chance as reform they won't either..
Bluntly they don't think reform are extreme enough.
They want mass deportations whilst supporting premiership football teams 95% foreign players 🙈🤣

If you're so concerned about the way working class people are viewed on MN perhaps you'd like to practice what you preach and stop linking being WC with support for racism? Because as a WC person, I'm sick to death of being told that anti immigration rhetoric and support for racist politicians are 'the concerns of the WC'.
In my WC opinion, Reform are 'vile' and I'd take being thought stupid any day of the week over being lumped in with their supporters.
Many of us WC people live quite happily in diverse communities and care far less about immigrants than we do about wealthy white people exploiting us as they have for centuries.

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.