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To think Lowe is going to wipe the floor with Farage?

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BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 11:11

Just that. AIBU to think this is the end of Farage?

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cardibach · 15/02/2026 22:24

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:34

32 million people have viewed Lowe's manifesto over the last 48hrs and he now has over 50,000 paid up members to his party. Have a look on X.

X? Really?

phoneisoff · 15/02/2026 22:21

ScreamingBeans · 15/02/2026 12:21

Do you think that premiership footballers came to Britain illegally in small boats and were housed in hotels prior to getting their contracts with their clubs?

You make no distinction between anyone who lives and works here who wasn't born here and you think people who support Reform are stupid and racist?

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of either Farage or this other guy but the snobbery and viciousness of the Mumsnet class about ordinary working-class people's concerns is so vile that I don't blame anyone for voting for them.

Lots of middle classed and public school types who support Reform. Last time I looked , Lowe, Farage the lot of them are public school boys.

Why do people always bring up 'snobbery against the working class' if Reform voters are called out for being fucking stupid ( which they are) ???

Its a trick Farage uses. The most vocal supporters have been the opposite of working class people, billionaires ....I wonder why?

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/02/2026 22:15

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 22:10

I don’t think it will be only UK users, especially if Musk has promoted them, but X is hardly a beacon of truth and that poster sounds as gullible as they come.

In what way am I gullible? I was just quoting some figures.

You’re gullible for believing anything you read on X without question.

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/02/2026 22:14

He says a British passport doesn’t make you British - I’d love to know what he thinks does?

No voting rights for foreign born people and mass deportations that seem to be reaching far beyond what reform are telling us they plan to do at the moment.

This country’s political trajectory is getting utterly fucking repulsive. I can’t believe it’s happening in my life time.

I wonder if the goal is to make reform appear more moderate?

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 22:10

I don’t think it will be only UK users, especially if Musk has promoted them, but X is hardly a beacon of truth and that poster sounds as gullible as they come.

In what way am I gullible? I was just quoting some figures.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/02/2026 22:04

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/02/2026 22:02

I don’t think it will be only UK users, especially if Musk has promoted them, but X is hardly a beacon of truth and that poster sounds as gullible as they come.

Sorry, quoted wrong person. It was meant for @Efacsen

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I’d be happy to put money on them mostly not being U.K. users and not being able to vote.

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/02/2026 22:02

Talkinpeace · 15/02/2026 21:42

Lowe stands in one seat at a yet to be determined General Election.

The UK is not the USA

I don’t think it will be only UK users, especially if Musk has promoted them, but X is hardly a beacon of truth and that poster sounds as gullible as they come.

Sorry, quoted wrong person. It was meant for @Efacsen

Efacsen · 15/02/2026 21:58

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:34

32 million people have viewed Lowe's manifesto over the last 48hrs and he now has over 50,000 paid up members to his party. Have a look on X.

32 million?

I'm sorry I don't believe you - the total adult population of the UK is only 55 million

Talkinpeace · 15/02/2026 21:42

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:34

32 million people have viewed Lowe's manifesto over the last 48hrs and he now has over 50,000 paid up members to his party. Have a look on X.

Lowe stands in one seat at a yet to be determined General Election.

The UK is not the USA

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:34

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:30

Well Reform don't seem to be able to find people who don’t have to be sacked or who don't just resign. Why do you think this will be different?
Do you have a reliable source for that figure? What does membership mean? How many are just nosing?

32 million people have viewed Lowe's manifesto over the last 48hrs and he now has over 50,000 paid up members to his party. Have a look on X.

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/02/2026 21:32

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:28

In just 48hrs, 50,000 people have joined Restore Britain! Candidates will follow very soon it is inevitable.

😂😂😂 that’s if those numbers are to be believed. We are in an age where facts don’t seem to matter and the far right aren’t well known for their impeccable honesty. They feed people any old shit and they swallow it.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 21:32

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:21

They know it’s an issue the right and the press have fixated on so they have to be seen to do something. I actually wish they wouldn’t - they’ve a massive majority, just do really important stuff at a faster pace.

You might get your wish, the policies still need to be voted on and backbenchers might not be so beholden to say yes now McSweeney has gone.

Although Starmer appears to want someone supportive of Mahmood as CoS so could be a factor.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:30

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:28

In just 48hrs, 50,000 people have joined Restore Britain! Candidates will follow very soon it is inevitable.

Well Reform don't seem to be able to find people who don’t have to be sacked or who don't just resign. Why do you think this will be different?
Do you have a reliable source for that figure? What does membership mean? How many are just nosing?

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:28

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:22

Where do you think he’ll find enough candidates of sufficient quality?

In just 48hrs, 50,000 people have joined Restore Britain! Candidates will follow very soon it is inevitable.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:22

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:11

Rupert Lowe will be PM in 2029.

Where do you think he’ll find enough candidates of sufficient quality?

cardibach · 15/02/2026 21:21

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 21:01

No need to invoke Jesus it’s not that controversial. Why do you think Labour brought in Mahmood to switch policy so markedly?

Even they know it’s a major issue. Honestly I don’t care if they get it wrong and people vote them out accordingly but Starmer and Labour know why they lagging behind Reform, hence major policy changes,

They know it’s an issue the right and the press have fixated on so they have to be seen to do something. I actually wish they wouldn’t - they’ve a massive majority, just do really important stuff at a faster pace.

PickAChew · 15/02/2026 21:19

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:11

Rupert Lowe will be PM in 2029.

You keep telling yourself that, love 😂

awakeandasleep · 15/02/2026 21:11

Rupert Lowe will be PM in 2029.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 21:01

cardibach · 15/02/2026 20:57

You think the only thing that matters is asylum numbers? Jesus. When did people get so narrow minded? It’s a tiny issue. The number of asylum seekers in government accommodation would only about 2/3rds fill Wembley Stadium.

No need to invoke Jesus it’s not that controversial. Why do you think Labour brought in Mahmood to switch policy so markedly?

Even they know it’s a major issue. Honestly I don’t care if they get it wrong and people vote them out accordingly but Starmer and Labour know why they lagging behind Reform, hence major policy changes,

cardibach · 15/02/2026 20:57

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 20:21

I think Labour are struggling given their GE pledges and if they can’t do as they thought they’ll probably be out. I didn’t believe it then so it’s no big deal but many did.

You think the only thing that matters is asylum numbers? Jesus. When did people get so narrow minded? It’s a tiny issue. The number of asylum seekers in government accommodation would only about 2/3rds fill Wembley Stadium.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 20:56

taxguru · 15/02/2026 20:19

Rwanda??

Only small numbers agreed and we had agreed to take a similar number of ‘vulnerable’ refugees from Rwanda, so no, not really.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 20:54

taxguru · 15/02/2026 20:18

Don't you understand the difference between immigrants who positively contribute whether they're footballers, doctors, engineers, nurses, etc., compared with the dinghy people who are going to end up undocumented/illegal working in car washes, turkish barbers, modern slaves or unemployed - who contribute nothing to the country?? Very few people have a problem with the former, but it seems more and more people are realising the ever growing problems of the latter.

Why would ‘dinghy peiple’ end up undocumented? They are literally claiming asylum to get documentation!

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 20:47

persephonia · 15/02/2026 20:26

Ok, but even if they smashed the gangs tomorrow and that was that, no more people arriving on board, you still have people here now whose claims are being processed AND people who were evacuated from Afghanistan by us who haven't got permanent places to live yet. So they need to be somewhere in the meantime.

I don’t think that would matter as much. The issue for Labour is if they try to sell in not using hotels by just moving to barracks over the course of their term.

I don’t think they can smash the gangs, but maybe they will do more with the one in one out who knows. Plus the French presidential elections could be a factor on bilateral policy.

persephonia · 15/02/2026 20:26

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 20:18

If you go back to the GE and voting I think people believed they would smash the gangs. So I guess that.

Ok, but even if they smashed the gangs tomorrow and that was that, no more people arriving on board, you still have people here now whose claims are being processed AND people who were evacuated from Afghanistan by us who haven't got permanent places to live yet. So they need to be somewhere in the meantime.

Ronathediva13 · 15/02/2026 20:25

Let’s hope so. Both terrible human beings so hopefully they’ll split the far right vote and obliterate each other.

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