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My head is spinning. Am I in the wrong here or is he?!

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Whataa · 14/02/2026 22:14

If I say to DP anything with the word ‘if’ in it, he says im threatening him.

Examples are, i’ll say ‘if we can’t organise the holiday asap then i will need to move the dates for work and we’ll have to cancel these suggested dates.’

the context is always dp dragging his feet with something and causing a knock on effect of stress in my life and for DS as nothing is organised. Is it threatening for me to say this in response?

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femfemlicious · 15/02/2026 10:16

EdithBond · 15/02/2026 08:43

I agree it appears pass agg. And disrespectful. Enough to drive anyone insane.

What does he do at work when dates have to be agreed, e.g. for deadlines or project plans? Surely, people at work would say something similar: ‘If you can’t confirm the dates, I’ll have to cancel’. Or if his friends are organising something: ‘Let me know by Friday if you can make it. If not, I’ll ask John instead’. Sometimes, men are perfectly capable of organising things in a work setting but then claim it’s too difficult in their personal life.

It’s definitely not threatening to use ‘if’. It’s openly communicating the way forward you plan to take “if” someone doesn’t confirm by a certain date.

I’d be booking a holiday with a friend instead. If he wants to go on holiday with you, he can organise it. And no doubt you’ll be quicker to respond.

Maybe they use all their mental energy to do it at work so can't at home. In that situation they should not be belligerent about it and realise where they are going wrong.

femfemlicious · 15/02/2026 10:13

SunnyRedSnail · 15/02/2026 08:22

This whole thing is just weird!

It's a very unattractive trait and not sometimes I'd put up with, especially someone accusing you of being abusive when you're actually trying to be decisive.

My DH puts things off. I have said "I'm taking the kids on holiday X week to this place. Let me know by X date if you want to come as I need to book it". I then give him the info and he decides. He is not keen on travel so I tend to go with me and the kids.

I think either @Whataa does this or just ends things. For her mental health.

femfemlicious · 15/02/2026 10:11

Harrietsaunt · 15/02/2026 08:20

Christ I couldn’t live like this. 💐

My teenage daughter is like this and it's extremely hard to cope with . I'm praying she changes as she grows up🙏🏿

Bonden · 15/02/2026 10:06

When you … the result is …
When x… the consequence is …
to make x happen, y has to happen first
now that x … what do you think is the result?
what do you think I should do now that y has happened?

RaisedBar · 15/02/2026 09:44

My work says that if we don’t submit our expenses forms by the 5th of the month, we won’t get reimbursed that month. Maybe I need to raise a grievance about their threatening behaviour….

everypageisempty · 15/02/2026 09:34

Whataa · 14/02/2026 22:26

@Isittimeformynapyet he says that’s a threat too. Anything where I’m ‘cancelling’ anything

He's just looking to blame you for everything. Literally. I bet nothing is ever his fault in his mind.

Sounds exhausting. Go on holiday without him if he won't commit to dates.

WelcometomyUnderworld · 15/02/2026 09:26

Lean into it. It is a threat, a threat of a natural consequence that you’re pointing out to him. You’re not threatening him, you are pointing out the natural threat that exists as he seems to be ignoring it.

(Assuming that’s true as I’m not entirely sure why you need to cancel your time off with work if your plans aren’t finalised by a certain date).

ScribblingPixie · 15/02/2026 09:25

Sounds manipulative. He won't carry out complete reasonable requests because you're 'asking him wrong'.

ThiagoJones · 15/02/2026 09:23

Happyjoe · 15/02/2026 09:13

Funny, if someone is controlling by the way OP's partner is then I wouldn't tolerate it either. Being precious when called up on own constant really bad behaviour is disgusting. 'IF' is not exactly nasty or rude and to be frank is the least of their problems. The OP's husband is being pathetic and he really is giving her no regard or working as a team.

Edited

Yes, that’s exactly what I was saying. The PP was saying she wouldn’t accept being spoken to like that and I was saying that I wouldn’t accept the controlling behaviour.

peakyblenders · 15/02/2026 09:22

Trallers · 14/02/2026 22:59

He's right in a way as it is a threat of sorts. Depends a lot on how you're saying it too. But he's so fixated on the word 'threat' that he's missing the point of how his dithering is pushing.you to all.or nothing decisions.

You could try wording more softly (e.g. I think my deadline for making a plan for those dates will need to be March 13th, if it's after that I'll have to move the holiday dates to sometime in June) but he would need to meet in the middle too and figure out why he's a) so reactive and b) hard to pin down. My guess from this tiny example would be that you are trapped in a bit of a parent/child dynamic that you both resent.

Would you advise a man to express themselves more 'softly'? Just curious.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 15/02/2026 09:21

I knew someone would be along to suggest some sort of medical reason why the DP couldn’t get his shit together.

OP, I’d book your own holiday - maybe with friends or family - and tell him the details so he can either join you or not.

Presumably DP is an adult, has agency over his own decisions and can plan things that matter at work.

I could not be wasting time on someone who finds your reasonable requests as threatening. Using that word is done to shut you down. I’d be out of the relationship with a DP like that.

BoudiccaRuled · 15/02/2026 09:17

Hiptothisjive · 14/02/2026 22:26

It isn’t threatening but it is an ultimatum and confrontational approach. He isn’t helping at all and I get you are frustrated but I certainly wouldn’t be responding well if I was spoken to that way.

So you would end up saying to him, "I've cancelled my leave because we didn't book the holiday in time." Super😕

BellesAndGraces · 15/02/2026 09:16

Whataa · 14/02/2026 22:31

They’re conversations that go on for weeks. If i have a boundary he calls me threatening. Which I find very hurtful.

Classic case of tone policing. It’s a tactic used to shift the focus away from his behaviour or accountability and instead places the focus on your delivery, making you feel guilty or question yourself. As soon as he says you’re threatening him, the conversation suddenly shifts to whether or not you’re threatening and away from the consequences of his failure to make decisions. You then find yourself posting on MN about whether or not you have a threatening tone rather than the fact your DH’s indecisiveness is having a negative impact on you and your DC’s life. Sounds like he’s executing this tactic perfectly.

This is a good explanation of it and suggests ways to respond to your DH: www.instagram.com/reel/DUn6HYZDOCk/?igsh=MWVld2c2cGZ2N243ZA==

MissSpindle · 15/02/2026 09:15

Whataa · 14/02/2026 22:31

They’re conversations that go on for weeks. If i have a boundary he calls me threatening. Which I find very hurtful.

Honestly he sounds like a child.

LTB.

godmum56 · 15/02/2026 09:14

Evaka · 14/02/2026 22:34

He sounds like a mountain of hard work. I could not, would not be fucked.

This.
usual question from me. What does he bring to the party?
and don't tell me he is/would be a great dad.

Happyjoe · 15/02/2026 09:13

ThiagoJones · 15/02/2026 08:58

Well I’d find your behaviour unacceptable and wouldn’t tolerate it, so I guess we’d be even.

Funny, if someone is controlling by the way OP's partner is then I wouldn't tolerate it either. Being precious when called up on own constant really bad behaviour is disgusting. 'IF' is not exactly nasty or rude and to be frank is the least of their problems. The OP's husband is being pathetic and he really is giving her no regard or working as a team.

Inthebleakmidwinter1 · 15/02/2026 09:13

Could you just book it and go on your own if he doesn’t get organised

Sassylovesbooks · 15/02/2026 09:11

Either your husband has an issue like ADHD for example and finds planning/organising difficult/anxiety inducing or he's being deliberately manipulative to control you.

The wording you are using isn't unreasonable or inappropriate. You are merely stating facts, and giving consequences if plans aren't finalised.

None of us on MN know your husband, so we don't know if he's difficult in other areas of your relationship or not. Look at your relationship objectively, can you see other behaviours that could be considered controlling? Sometimes when we're in the thick of it, and emotionally involved, we can't see the wood for the trees.

SauronsArsehole · 15/02/2026 09:10

He needs to get his head out of his arse and actually organise the family stuff.

you, OP, need to book your holiday time and tell DH this is the holiday time ‘book it’ then book your holiday. If DH doesn’t organise himself. Well, you go without him.

Zanatdy · 15/02/2026 09:08

How does he want you to phrase it? As if he just organised himself, doesn’t sound like you’d need to say anything at all. I’d tell him that his lack or sorting his shit out means you feel like his mother.

Happyjoe · 15/02/2026 09:08

usedtobeaylis · 15/02/2026 09:07

So basically it's the age-old issue of a man needing to be told what to do but objecting to being told what to do because it's 'nagging'. YANBU.

In a nutshell!

borntobequiet · 15/02/2026 09:07

He construes “if” as threatening? Time to leave.

Life is too short for this sort of nonsense.

usedtobeaylis · 15/02/2026 09:07

So basically it's the age-old issue of a man needing to be told what to do but objecting to being told what to do because it's 'nagging'. YANBU.

Happyjoe · 15/02/2026 09:06

It's not threatening. But sounds like you've laid down the line and are fed up. I'd be fed up too if lived with someone who can't organise anything. In fact, if it was turned around on me like that then I would probably start liking them a whole lot less. My partner can be like this sometimes, blames his lack of memory, for which I am understanding. Funny though when it's something he really wants to do he remembers and is organised just fine.

We shouldn't have to mollycoddle our partners to do basic things when they are adults. It's unreasonable.

ThiagoJones · 15/02/2026 08:58

Hiptothisjive · 14/02/2026 22:33

Yes

Well I’d find your behaviour unacceptable and wouldn’t tolerate it, so I guess we’d be even.