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If you don’t drive your world is much smaller

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Imreallyokayipromise · 14/02/2026 12:38

I have a friend who doesn’t drive, for many reasons (anxiety, dyslexia) she also doesn’t use public transport so her world seems very small to me. She has a small child who doesn’t leave the house unless they are going to nursery school. Her partner drives but never seems to want to go anywhere either and she has to make all her plans around him and get permission and everytime we discuss it I just feel like she has no independence and her world is so small. It really got me thinking that if you can drive so many possibilities open up and your world becomes much bigger. Even if it’s just doing your own food shop or visiting a friend.

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Myoldbear · 19/02/2026 09:10

To answer the question: if you don't drive, your world is smaller in one way, but may be larger in others.

For example the people you may meet on public transport can be interesting to talk to, or the planning you do to get to where you want to be makes you think harder than just getting in your car.

I'm not sure it's possible to know how it is for your friend though, and how she is thinking.

Myoldbear · 19/02/2026 09:02

MrsBrett20 · 19/02/2026 08:58

Not everyone has to drive, and we should normalise that

Most definitely this.
It is entirely normal behaviour not to drive.

Simonjt · 19/02/2026 09:02

Playingvideogames · 16/02/2026 12:32

How would you get to (ie) the start of a rural hiking route?

Before I had old man knees I would get trains and buses and leave my car at home, taking your car limits you to circular routes unless you park on a bus route. It seemed pointless having my car in some random carpark on ten day walking holidays when I would end up 60-100 miles away from my car on the final day.

MrsBrett20 · 19/02/2026 08:58

Not everyone has to drive, and we should normalise that

ContentedAlpaca · 17/02/2026 17:43

I fancy a hike in the lake District. I've just checked and it would take me 4 1/2 hrs and two trains to get to Keswick. Not too bad.
I think bigger trips that you can plan for and stay over are probably fine. It would take me about 2 1/2 hrs to drive to Keswick. I wouldn't usually but have gone there and back in a day

To hike at a local beauty spot 50 mins away would take 3 hrs on public transport. That amount of travelling for what is usually an afternoon out involving a cuppa and 2 hrs hike up and down a local hill is less appealing.

It's the little incidental jobs that make a car worthwhile for me. Caring for an elderly parent would be a full time job rather than a half hour round trip to pop in and out. Being asked if I could just nip to the supermarket on the way (it isn't on the way but they like to say it like that) would take on a whole new level of frustration..

Fangdango · 17/02/2026 09:16

Playingvideogames · 16/02/2026 12:32

How would you get to (ie) the start of a rural hiking route?

You would hike there 😁

phoenixrosehere · 17/02/2026 08:15

OriginalSkang · 16/02/2026 18:01

I think you need to re-read the OP if that's what you think she was saying

I did and all their posts.

Please explain what I misinterpreted.

Kirbert2 · 16/02/2026 23:54

MasterBeth · 16/02/2026 22:26

And what happens if you go somewhere outside Greater London where the public transport is not very good?

Not all transport is bad outside of Greater London.

MasterBeth · 16/02/2026 22:26

JohnTheRevelator · 16/02/2026 16:04

I don't drive but I live in greater London so the public transport is pretty good. I definitely don't think my world has become smaller because I don't drive.

And what happens if you go somewhere outside Greater London where the public transport is not very good?

OriginalSkang · 16/02/2026 18:01

phoenixrosehere · 16/02/2026 15:16

I made that comment in context to what OP was saying hence my disagreement with her saying not driving is limiting one’s world.

I was not talking about other situations where people actually can’t.

There is a difference between people who choose to make/keep their world small whether they drive or not vs those who don’t have a choice.

I didn’t think that needed to be said.

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I think you need to re-read the OP if that's what you think she was saying

JohnTheRevelator · 16/02/2026 16:04

I don't drive but I live in greater London so the public transport is pretty good. I definitely don't think my world has become smaller because I don't drive.

user1476613140 · 16/02/2026 15:34

Just trying to illustrate OP that even women that can drive and have a car daily don't necessarily go out and do fun stuff with their DC.

user1476613140 · 16/02/2026 15:33

My next door neighbour does drive and has access to a car yet her 4yo doesn't go anywhere except nursery (when she can be bothered taking her). Her 4yo's world is very tiny.

EnglishBreakfastTea1 · 16/02/2026 15:19

I don’t drive but I do use public transport a lot, plus I use my bike around the town where I live.

Ultimately it’s up to her how she lives her life but some gentle support for her anxiety might be beneficial.

phoenixrosehere · 16/02/2026 15:16

YesSirICanNameChange · 15/02/2026 22:01

You said The only thing limiting one’s world is one own choices to be limited.

I didn't make the choice to not drive; I didn't make the choice to be too poor to afford taxis; I didn't make the choice to be reliant on public transport in an area where it isn't reliable or regular.

How have I limited my world through my choices?

I made that comment in context to what OP was saying hence my disagreement with her saying not driving is limiting one’s world.

I was not talking about other situations where people actually can’t.

There is a difference between people who choose to make/keep their world small whether they drive or not vs those who don’t have a choice.

I didn’t think that needed to be said.

Noonshine · 16/02/2026 13:03

BMW6 · 16/02/2026 12:41

Well you could choose to hike in an area served by a train station or bus route for starters! 🙄

Yes, a lot of them are very well served by public transport precisely because hikers bring so much tourism to an area with good walking and/or long distance paths, it makes sense to support that with bus or other resources.

I've walked around Loch Lomond and the Trossachs by getting the train from Glasgow and using the waterbuses, along the Pembrokeshire coast (good national park bus network with buses you can hail) and I walked the entire South Downs Way in chunks from London, using public transport. There's a dedicated bus network to various routes up Snowdon/Yr Wyddfa from towns, and an excellent bus along the length of Hadrian's Wall, and the Lake District is also very good for getting to and around on trains, buses and ferries.

BMW6 · 16/02/2026 12:41

Playingvideogames · 16/02/2026 12:32

How would you get to (ie) the start of a rural hiking route?

Well you could choose to hike in an area served by a train station or bus route for starters! 🙄

Playingvideogames · 16/02/2026 12:32

Mh67 · 16/02/2026 11:48

We have no drivers in our family and we have always done whatever we want. There isn't anything we can't do. But on the flip side drivers have no clue how to cope without a car.

How would you get to (ie) the start of a rural hiking route?

Mh67 · 16/02/2026 11:48

We have no drivers in our family and we have always done whatever we want. There isn't anything we can't do. But on the flip side drivers have no clue how to cope without a car.

XenoBitch · 15/02/2026 23:16

I can't drive, and I also can't use buses, so my world is tiny. But I have made peace with that.

CottonCandyCake · 15/02/2026 23:14

I am 52 and I never learned to drive. I lived in London for a long time where it wasn’t necessary. Now I make sure I live near bus routes. My children can navigate trains, buses and the underground, and they are good walkers too. So neither my kids life or mine has been made smaller. It kind of sucks your friend can’t use public transport either though

Flamingojune · 15/02/2026 22:02

The car mindset is very limiting

YesSirICanNameChange · 15/02/2026 22:01

EatYourDamnPie · 15/02/2026 21:18

It’s not like every single driver out there is jaunting off to the coast just for a dog walk and exploring the uk. Plenty of them barely drive to the neighbouring town, much less the next county or leave the country.

So yes , it is about choices and what you want to do.

You said The only thing limiting one’s world is one own choices to be limited.

I didn't make the choice to not drive; I didn't make the choice to be too poor to afford taxis; I didn't make the choice to be reliant on public transport in an area where it isn't reliable or regular.

How have I limited my world through my choices?

OriginalSkang · 15/02/2026 21:51

EatYourDamnPie · 15/02/2026 21:18

It’s not like every single driver out there is jaunting off to the coast just for a dog walk and exploring the uk. Plenty of them barely drive to the neighbouring town, much less the next county or leave the country.

So yes , it is about choices and what you want to do.

Its also about being limited physically and mentally, which is most certainly not a choice

FunnyOrca · 15/02/2026 21:28

500daysofspring · 14/02/2026 12:40

Her world is small because she has severe anxiety and a controlling partner.

This.

My husband and I don’t drive. I’d argue that our world is bigger because every journey is different! Even the same daily commute can be changed by a different bus driver, American tourists using public transport for the first time in their lives at 7am, a bus obsessed child on their way to nursery.

And going further a field is an adventure! Not just a grey road and roadside services.