Scared of growing resentment towards people of colour

I can’t imagine ever being influenced by that shower of racist wankers.

He has stoked race war for ages via being the guy who is in charge of X. He champions Tommy Robinson and made a Nazu salute at the US inauguration. He's extremely powerful so has got a lot of clout and millions believe the bullshit.

I couldn't care less who's the minority or majority, all this stupid tribal racist BS is causing real harm to people.

Because this whole thread is about any immigration not just illegal immigration. And how people think about non whites. And how they perceive us to be taken over by immigration, when only a small amount is illegal
Its an obvious issue re perception. Which you demonstrate aptly...

I'm sadly feel a war is likely - but not a civil one, which is what ignorant right wing blow-hards from other countries like Musk go on about. Which goes to show how little they know about Britain. I mean, how would it even work? No one has arms to take up against one another!

There will always be war.

There always have been wars. There are wars happening right now. The UK is absolutely not immune.

The shitshow going on in the US has made the liklihood of it happening in the UK even more real.

Who knows the reason it will happen now, but we will certainly see war again at some point.

The people who would actually be of an age to fight a war are too fat , too lazy and too consumed by anxiety to ever leave their houses.

It is reasonable to want to live in any type of environment but not everyone can afford to hand pick the place they live in.

“British values” mean different things to different people. Same with culture, it really differs across the regions and across the generations and even across classes too. You will find that my London born nephews who attend public school (but have also lived abroad in the past) find some of the posh country Brit aristo types really dull, boring and one dimensional, for example. Where you are born and how much you travel and what you eat and consume from an early age defines your expectations. There is no one type of Brit. I do not think there ever was, but it is more and more multifaceted now, especially since most people are immigrants going back 4/5 generations.

Elon Musk and Ratcliffe are both immigrants themselves so are they going “home”? Or do they think they are superior because they are white and male and happen to have money? And do not get me started on Musk thinking he should spread his sperm as far and wide as possible.
Of course these bastard billionaire men want to stoke fear to gain more control and power for themselves. Ultimately though, they too will get sick, old and die and sooner rather than later. for Trump. That must really bug them, that they cannot beat death despite all their money and power. And if they are going to be remembered for being nasty villain bastards primarily, how miserable.

People have just had enough of our own culture pushed aside, it's got nothing to do with what colour people are at all, its just certain groups of people refusing to accept British values and expecting us to change.

But isn’t it just as reasonable to want to live in a non multi cultural environment (and I don’t white- I just mean mono cultural not mono ethnic)

I don't think anyone is having a moral panic. The problem with talking about immigration online is that everyone is assumed to be one extreme or the other. When really it is a mixed bag. I've been an immigrant for much of my life. I like living in multicultural environment.

I understand the impulse to hide this thread. These views are horrible, it hurts to engage, and you're also opening yourself up to some nasty personal abuse. But I also feel that we have to speak up against racism.

(Mind you, I don't engage with all these threads, only when I have the strength and energy to ).

I know. 🤣

Well OP never came back.
Is she wearing a tin hat and shitting herself in her understairs cupboard?

Got us all talking and arguing though didn't it.

Culture wars are made of this drip, drip, drip of hatred and division by unknown sources who then fuck off laughing at and profiting from the mess they make.

Have you watched "The Zone of Interest?"

Highly recommend. Hugely powerful.

What a stupid comment with literally no point.

I feel like you think chatgp has made some kind of profound point for you but it's really missed the mark.

That doesn't make any sense.

The OP has evidently done one.

A zombie thread.

This sums it up perfectly.

But that's the equivalent of when posters are talking about male violence, domestic violence or sexual violence and someone pipes up saying 'some women do that too'.

Yes they do, and we know but it's a way to try and distract from the topic in hand and shut down discourse.

Womens rights have improved in the same way as workers rights, disability rights etc because of changing times.

It's completely disingenuous to suggest that has anything to do with immigration.

Unless you're saying that womens rights in the UK to not be forced into arranged marriages, be subjected to FGM etc are a consequence of immigration in which case yes, you're right, but they are directly a causation of immigration where the UK had to put laws into place to prevent that where such laws were previously not needed.

Violence towards women is an epidemic everywhere but the rights of women have increased in the UK exponentially whereas they have not in other countries and cultures so when those cultures choose to live here but maintain those cultures and beliefs, there is a conflict.

And that is why specific legislation is brought in to prevent or attempt to prevent child marriage, forced marriage, FGM, forced virginity tests etc, girls being excluded from education based on sex etc. Which were not part of British culture in the later half of 20th century and not now.

And abuse and child sexual exploitation of DC exists everywhere. But when certain cultures or Religions use that culture or religion to target DC of different religions or cultures, that is an issue.

Many of the non-white CSA gangs used their religion or culture to facilitate their abuse.

The UK is responsible for it's citizens, including their crimes. It isn't responsible for the wellbeing or comfort of people who came here, ignored our laws and committed crimes.

And when non-British born men who are convicted of rape or multiple rapes of women or DC and use the asylum system or human rights legislation to avoid deportation to their countries of origin which was part of their sentence given when they were convicted of serious crimes, that is a problem that British sex offenders simply don't cause.

I'm going to have to hide this thread so I won't respond beyond this: don't call me ignorant. This poster said whites were becoming the minority by a date. Didn't say where (since whites are the global minority). Didn't give any evidence beyond having 'heard' it. It is not my responsibility to find evidence for someone else's bullshit claim.

Your evidence illustrates it's bollocks too. You can ask AI anything you want to get the answer you want and it makes things up (I know this because I work with AI) and what you found didn't even say what you wanted it to! Show me actual evidence AND why that's the end of the world anyway, or just say "I'm a massive racist" and have done. Seems to be perfectly acceptable on here these days anyway.

I don't think outstanding girls' are creating a moral panic!

YANBU that growing resentment to people of colour is a worry. I don't think it's going to be 'civil war'. I mean, who would that be against who? And we don't have guns here, thank God.

As a Jewish person, and the daughter of someone granted asylum here, I am really disgusted and upset by the campaign of hate being ramped up against immigrants, often by people like Musk who know absolutely nothing about the UK or what life is like here.

The vast majority of immigrants want to work hard and will integrate, and they contribute hugely to the economy, often doing the jobs no one else wants to do. But because immigrants are human beings, like any human beings some people will be bad people and criminals. I think by all means there should be improved systems so countries can refuse to take people with violent or sex-crime-related criminal records and send them back. But to take the attitude 'we shouldn't let anyone in in case they're a violent criminal' is ridiculous.

What is it about seeing black and brown faces on the streets of our city that brings you to tears? Because in all honesty, that sounds like something probably better addressed through therapy than a vote for the Advance Reform Segretate Everyone party or whatever they're called.