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To be frustrated by friend complaining about her DD?

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Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:06

I have a friend I've known over 10 years. She has a 23 year old DD who is her only child.

Her DD is very clever and has done well academically - good degree and MA. She is now living back with her parents.

I have always strongly differed from my friend in my view of students working. I always worked during sixth form and university, albeit part time, and my parents wouldn’t have entertained anything else. My friend has worked full time since being a teenager.

Since my friend’s DD turned 16 there were always mutterings about how her DD was going to get a part time job, but she never did. Then she went away to university and was always going to get a job, and then it became a holiday job because DD was too busy to get one during term time. My friend paid DD’s bills during this time plus spending money.

I always thought it was doing her DD no favours to have her go into the world of work at 21 with no work experience whatsoever but it’s not my business.

DD then went on to do her MA, with bills and spending again covered by friend.

DD is now home and working one or two shifts a week at a local pub (this took six months from completion of the MA).

My friend is in constant despair about the situation, and worries her DD’s degree will be wasted because she won’t apply for graduate schemes and there’s obviously a new cohort each year, won’t apply for any jobs at all really and she doesn’t know what to do. Friend has even mentioned that she was going to speak to her own contacts to try and get DD a job. She has suggested many opportunities but her DD won’t apply. I have been sympathetic and suggested DD may be suffering a lack of confidence or maybe is applying but doesn’t want to discuss it with her mother.

I met my friend last month and she was again lamenting how her DD was wasting her education.

I asked how her DD was living, and how was she affording nights out and meals, trips away on just a couple of nights working in a pub?

My friend is giving her DD £850 a month.

I said that this is the clear reason why her DD did not have a job. I told my friend to stop, and my friend seemed shocked and said she’d speak to her husband about whether they should reduce the amount. I met her for lunch today and they haven’t reduced it - they want DD to be comfortable and they have the money.

AIBU to tell friend the next time she mentions it that it’s perfectly clear why her DD has no intention of getting a job, that she isn’t doing her any favours and I don’t want to discuss it any more because there is no mystery?

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Assword · 13/02/2026 19:50

converseandjeans · 13/02/2026 19:50

@Assword it’s been proven that working helps mental health. Sitting home pondering the world does not help.

Indeed!!

But dos it occur to you that someone depressed may struggle to be motivated?

converseandjeans · 13/02/2026 19:50

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:34

Have you asked your friend about her daughter’s mental health?

@Assword it’s been proven that working helps mental health. Sitting home pondering the world does not help.

Holdinguphalfthesky · 13/02/2026 19:49

@Usernamesettings Suggest that they make the allowance contingent on a certain number of reasonable job applications each month? To suitable jobs. And they see the applications so that they can see how good they are, etc.

From interest, what subject was her degree and Masters in?

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:48

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:44

Doesn’t answer my question

You’ve asked / your friend has said that her daughter is not feeling depressed about her situation?

Fucking hell, yes, I know that her daughter is not depressed. She’s having the time of her life, out for meals and drinks most nights and enjoying holidays.

What situation? Her situation is that she’s been paid £850 a month to spend on luxuries for herself without having to look for (or do) a job.

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Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:44

Alainlechat · 13/02/2026 19:42

It’s not helping but your friend has made a rod for their own back. I’m supporting my dds through university but during the weeks they are home they work when they can and I don’t give them any money. There is no way I’d be giving my DD £850 a month. I’d cover the basics that’s all.

Yes, I entirely agree. Food, heating, of course, but £850 when my friend is working long hours in a stressful job blew my mind. I cannot fathom how she doesn’t realise the lack of job searching is because this money means she doesn’t need a job.

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Assword · 13/02/2026 19:44

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:42

Her mental health is fine.

Doesn’t answer my question

You’ve asked / your friend has said that her daughter is not feeling depressed about her situation?

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:42

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:39

Have you asked about her daughter’s mental health?

Her mental health is fine.

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Alainlechat · 13/02/2026 19:42

It’s not helping but your friend has made a rod for their own back. I’m supporting my dds through university but during the weeks they are home they work when they can and I don’t give them any money. There is no way I’d be giving my DD £850 a month. I’d cover the basics that’s all.

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:39

Have you asked about her daughter’s mental health?

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:39

Fairylightsarego · 13/02/2026 19:36

She sounds like my ex husband who funds our eldest adult child’s entire life and and then complains they wont apply for jobs. Infuriating.

Absolutely this! Why do they do it? It really isn’t helping them.

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Assword · 13/02/2026 19:39

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:38

Well, is the job fairy going to knock on the door? She knows she’d have to apply for jobs.

£850 after all of your bills and food is a lot for a 23 year old.

As I say - go for it. Tell her to basically zip it!

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:38

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:33

I would think she’s probably depressed

she has worked very hard and done well
come home
surviving on £850 a month handout

Well, is the job fairy going to knock on the door? She knows she’d have to apply for jobs.

£850 after all of your bills and food is a lot for a 23 year old.

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Fairylightsarego · 13/02/2026 19:36

She sounds like my ex husband who funds our eldest adult child’s entire life and and then complains they wont apply for jobs. Infuriating.

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:35

MuddyPawsIndoors · 13/02/2026 19:31

I mean she's clearly spoilt her daughter but you've gone this long without pointing it out so why start now?

I'd probably bite my tongue and change the subject.

I think it’s different supporting a student to an out of work 20 odd year old who just isn’t applying for jobs, even if I did expect my kids to work during uni, and was expected to myself.

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Assword · 13/02/2026 19:34

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:32

She’s not applying for jobs.

Have you asked your friend about her daughter’s mental health?

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:33

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:32

She’s not applying for jobs.

I would think she’s probably depressed

she has worked very hard and done well
come home
surviving on £850 a month handout

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:33

Snorlaxo · 13/02/2026 19:27

Your “friend” clearly likes moaning for the sake of it and isn’t looking for you to provide solutions (unless you can offer the dd a job!)

I think that you’re right in that it could be a lack of confidence or being too comfortable thing but you’ve also not told us what kind of place you live in - is it a place with jobs? You’ve also forgotten that obvious - when the economy isn’t doing well there’s fewer jobs around. Did she study a subject that leads to good job prospects?

She’s not applying for jobs.

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Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:32

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:26

So you don’t.

I think relevant.

Her daughter at 23 sounds intelligent and has worked hard. She won’t want to be living on £850 a month. It’s a crap desert out there for grads. She no doubt is starting to feel very bleak about her future, as many are, and her mother is worried, very worried, like many are about their young adults trying to get work

She’s not applying for jobs.

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edwinbear · 13/02/2026 19:32

I was all set to hit YABU until I read she’s giving her £850! That’s a lot and I agree there’s no incentive for her DD to work. DS is in Y12 and asked to do a lifeguard course in the October half term (which cost £350) as he allegedly, wanted a job as a lifeguard. He’s done sweet FA to actually get one since he passed. I’m letting it slide at the moment as he’s studying and also a competing athlete so runs 6 days a week and doesn’t have a huge amount of time without giving up his training. But come the summer holidays, the pressure will be ramped up.

I know when I interview at work for our grad scheme, I do expect to see some sort of employment by the time they’ve hit 21 - it’s quite apparent as well which ones have worked and who hasn’t. They come across far more self assured and just more mature. Duke of Edinburgh and Young Enterprise just doesn’t seem to develop the same life skills as working in a pub, coaching kids football, I’ve even had a few who ran their own side hustle businesses and they were super impressive.

MuddyPawsIndoors · 13/02/2026 19:31

I mean she's clearly spoilt her daughter but you've gone this long without pointing it out so why start now?

I'd probably bite my tongue and change the subject.

Snorlaxo · 13/02/2026 19:27

Your “friend” clearly likes moaning for the sake of it and isn’t looking for you to provide solutions (unless you can offer the dd a job!)

I think that you’re right in that it could be a lack of confidence or being too comfortable thing but you’ve also not told us what kind of place you live in - is it a place with jobs? You’ve also forgotten that obvious - when the economy isn’t doing well there’s fewer jobs around. Did she study a subject that leads to good job prospects?

Driftingawaynow · 13/02/2026 19:27

You’ve tried to rescue your friend, she doesn’t listen so you feel like a victim in that you’ve wasted your time, then you’re annoy with her (persecutory). Check out “drama triangle”
Round and round you go until you choose a heathy adult response, which might be just a mild reply then changing the subject.

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:26

go for it @Usernamesettings
Next time you see her… basically tell her to zip it
job done

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:26

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:23

Usually I see how this question is relevant. I don’t in this case.

So you don’t.

I think relevant.

Her daughter at 23 sounds intelligent and has worked hard. She won’t want to be living on £850 a month. It’s a crap desert out there for grads. She no doubt is starting to feel very bleak about her future, as many are, and her mother is worried, very worried, like many are about their young adults trying to get work

Usernamesettings · 13/02/2026 19:25

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:23

Ok so no

Do you have adult kids? Do you transfer just shy of £1000 to them each month that you work for so that they can sit at home?

If you do, why? What is the logic?

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