To think male nursery workers should be banned for safety reasons?

Some discrimination is justified. We don't allow children to work because of their age. We require people over a certain age to retake their driving tests. And so on. Some groups of people are suitable for some activities, others not. It's case by case not just omg discrimination = mean and bad. In this specific case and for reasons provided at length, men should not be nursery nurses

You just see the same thing about in primary schools too, complaining they shouldn’t be teaching younger than year 3 or whatever (I’ve no idea the actual year they say as I think it’s ridiculous).

In nursery settings? On what do you base that opinion?

Most definitely can't agree that most men who work in nurseries are not good ones. I'd agree the other way around. A few men who work in nurseries are an issue, not most. Same with women.

No-one needs to be restricted. Cameras in every room, two workers present at all times (though this hasn't always protected children). There are plenty of ways that are not that hard.

No I don't agree with the equivalence you are trying to make- with the dogs happy to separate by breed knowing that some if not many of that breed are perfectly safe - but that the breed overall is more risky. So here men are the same as the dangerous breed. Woman are the other breeds - still a risk but much less.

No.

Some people just believe that banning men means very little if safeguarding policies stay the same and that children would still very much be at risk of abuse in nurseries because SA isn't the only type of abuse that can happen in nurseries.

People are so afraid of seeming prejudiced that they will sacrifice children. Wow, just wow.

We talk about all sorts, thanks.

Do you only talk about what is relevant to his career decision though? My DH and I talk about all sorts, like how some woman feel when a man walks behind them in the dark, how he was treated and felt at times as a SAHD, and general differences we experience in life as different sexes.

Exactly.
you want to ban all men from nurseries not just the dangerous ones, but when it comes to dogs putting children in hospital you’re ok with safeguards where only the most dangerous dogs are banned.

So you don't actually have stats and have fallen on the old 'do your own research' line? I've done plenty of research and trained people in this field. I am well informed about childcare centres and social issues. I also have sons (more daughters than sons). I care about both sexes equally when it comes to discrimination and the damage it can do when boys learn, from young, that their sex is a negative thing. There is a much better answer that covers all bases - make the environment safer so that abuse almost definitely can't take place. Men and women can pose a risk. Make it harder for all of them.

What no - I've said I'm in favour of banning men from nursery roles.I think it's sad that we have to because many male childcare workers are fantastic but with recent cases I've come to think the risk is too high,
Hence why my point was we have in fact banned some dogs.

No, because it's not relevant to him choosing to teach.

So you couldn’t find any statistics either.

Sorry must have missed them - they'll be very much in the minority. I'd be surprised if men in these roles don't realise a very small group of people have this view. Is it something you've discussed with your husband?

Ah so in the case of dogs, you are in favour of extra safeguards to protect children, but not in the case of humans.

interesting

No - some posters have said that perverts are more likely to want to work with kids. For obvious reasons.

that is not the same as saying everyone who wants to work with kids is a pervert. The problem is that it’s impossible to tell who is and isn’t a pervert because the perverts don’t go around advertising the fact.

Im sure you’re well capable of using Google yourself.

If you not only didn’t use any childcare for your children because it is so dangerous, and seem to think that childcare is not even a necessity at all but rather some sort of luxury, why do you care who should and shouldn’t work in it?

We have banned the most dangerous breeds. Happy to add more dogs to the list.

Please provide evidence of that. I think emotional and mental abuse are more likely by women, purely anecdotally though.