To think male nursery workers should be banned for safety reasons?

I'm referring more to being physically violent, which is what SA and rape are, towards other people. In which case, yes. If women were frequently in the news for SA other members of staff then yes, it should be acceptable. As it happens, it's men that are frequently reported for sexual harassment in the workplace.

See the recurring theme here. Men.

Absolutely. We need more staff. Only 2 staff for 16 three year olds. If a child needs changing due to having an accident in the toilet, an adult goes to change them where they are (in the toilet).
The other adult then has 15 children to oversee. The soiled or wet child can't be brought back into the room with the other staff member and children. They have to be cleaned up where they are. This can take a good 5 minutes! The adult with 15 children is merely fire fighting at this point, trying to keep them all safe, so can't be watching what is happening in the toilets.

This doesn't take into account the large number of children age 3-4 in a nappy. Its not dignified for them to be changed in the classroom even if you do have a screen. The toilet door is open obviously, but staff are vulnerable. Until funding is addressed, ratios will never improve.

Women are more likely to be bullies in the workplace should women be banned from working? They can all stay at home with their children protecting them from the males (potential kiddy fiddlers)

Maybe we need stronger education for children.

There is a charity who said teaching toddlers empathy in nurseries helps to lower attacks on girls later
Maybe it needs to become a priority.snd respect for girls drummed in.

I was told some awful things being said by year 6 primary schools boys to the girls and when I told the school I got silence back.

Another teacher said it's only banter

Not "because they are men". Because they pose a greater risk.

You're phrasing it wrong.

If women posed an increased risk in certain areas of the workplace, it should be acceptable to stop them also. It's about risk. Similar to the argument re trans in womens toilets. Most women don't feel safe with a biological man in their spaces. Why are so many women okay to impose this on their vulnerable children when they're not accepting of it for their own safety?

Male Primary school teachers are ok cause kids are 'old enough to speak up'
You have no idea!!!!!
The majority of children will not 'Speak up'

Im not saying there shouldnt be male teachers.
Im saying your ignorance is quite something!

Women commit the majority of child abuse though. It's only sexual abuse where men are the main perpetrators.

De facto this is the real world choice that exists, yes.

My daughter's former nursery employed two men the term after she left and there was quite an exodus of customers.

It would be inconvenient to move a tot, sure- but not the worst case scenario

Yep. Those defenceless babies right not to be sexually abused trumps any man's "right" to work with them.

How could that be an option legally with gender discrimination and equality laws in the work place?

Nurseries are not female only spaces and are not protected under that.

It would send the message that caring for babies = women's work which is already an issue in society.

Not to mention the issues surrounding equality laws in the work place and the can of worms it could very well open. If we can decide that men can't do a job because they are men, the same thing will absolutely happen to women in the work place because it would become more acceptable.

The list of reasons to keep men in childcare is getting more ridiculous.
If a man is too stupid to distinguish between men not being able to work in childcare because of the greater risk the male sex poses in terms of sexual abuse versus women being better at changing nappies then he shouldn't be breeding in the first place.
And if his argument is that it isn't safe for him to change nappies then he shouldn't be anywhere near a baby, his own or otherwise.

Yes 100%. I also think all nurseries should have full cctv which parents can access via an app.

I refuse to send my DC to nursery or have a childminder. I come from a village where one of the nursery nurses/sons adult son abused half of my brother class. Dozens of lives ruined. I keep men as far away from my DC as I can.

This is a whole other issue that you're apparently completely unaware of somehow.

Well 25% of children grow up in a single parent family including my own.

If you just ban men from working in nurseries and its stops there there probably isn’t much impact.

But I think it’s more pervasive. You give men the impression that wanting to care for a young child is suspicious and they won’t do it, even if family.

Sports coaches might have some relationship with a kid but many would probably keep a degree of distance now. Same with teachers etc.

My uncle talked about his football coach taking him home after every match and what an important figure he was to him. I don’t think that would happen now. And I wouldn’t let my own children drive home alone with a coach.

So I actually don’t think a lot of children do have strong male role models. They might have some relationships with men but they’re often quite distant/ professional or overseen by a parent. Which is good from a safeguarding perspective but something is lost for it. And I’d put that partially to blame for the mental health issues teenagers are having now.

I think this is what you would call a "slippery slope."

Line of sight can be overcome - the nursery we used had an L-shaped room with the changing area in the shared corner, walled off from one "leg" by lockers but visible (end-on) from one side of the other room for the full length of the room. Children's toilet cubicles and potties were also in this area. When someone was using the changing area to change a baby another member of staff stood in the half of the room where they could see behind the lockers and kept an eye out but were still physically in the main area with the rest of the children and could see what was going on there too - the other children couldn't see anything as the table was above their head height and the top of the changee's head was all that was visible to them. Parents could come in at any time (via the many entry security measures) but would be briefly guided away from the angle where they could see behind the lockers if there was a change in progress.