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To think male nursery workers should be banned for safety reasons?

433 replies

Carla786 · 13/02/2026 18:47

I KNOW most men who work in them are fine but sexual abuse in nurseries is overwhelmingly committed by men. No more men, much less abuse risk.
Yes we need more CCTV etc to watch bad women but it cuts SA risk immeasurably.

We can still have male primary teachers etc kids are old enough to speak up then.

And yes, you can ban on the basis of sex for safety reasons. In women's refuges, eg.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:27

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:04

We are the ones aware of the risk, hence why we don't want random men around our children.

Exactly

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:26

Blushingm · 14/02/2026 21:19

Should there be only make paediatric nurses because all the reports about paediatric nurses killing their patients have been women - Lucy letby , Beverly Allit

There are serious doubts about Lucy Letby's conviction from some respected medical people. She may be guilty but I'd be wary of using her as an example right now.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:25

AmandineChamallow · 14/02/2026 21:00

If you wanted to compare male and female abuse in childcare settings. (Which is a reasonable thing to do. No point ignoring it.) You'd need to compare the proportion of male and female childcare workers carrying it out. Since far more women work in nurseries than men.

I think the studies done have allowed for proportion, but I will check this up.

Men committing most sexual abuse would align with robust findings across areas that men are much more likely to SA children & commit sexual assault in general than women are, but I agree it should be checked.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:23

Raisedinthe90sperhaps · 14/02/2026 19:22

In all honesty, I wouldn’t send my child to a nursery where there was a male nursery worker. Wouldn’t employ a male nanny or childminder. People can be as offended as they like but I agree with you OP.

Thank you. I suspect a large number of women are the same.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:22

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 19:15

Okay but are you not just skirting around the fact that less children would be sexually abused if men didn't work in nurseries?

This is the crux for me.

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Carla786 · 15/02/2026 01:21

harrietm87 · 14/02/2026 17:41

Robust safeguarding should already be in place. Unfortunately, paedophiles (overwhelmingly male) are still able to abuse kids. Yes, in a perfect world, all nurseries would have perfect safeguarding measures in place and able to stick to them, but it’s not a perfect world, they are overstretched and underfunded and children are being abused as a result.

Exactly.

I do get this argument & ideally this is what would happen. But I suppose I'm just thinking in terms of the potential least worst option. How long will it take to sort safeguarding out properly? In the meantime, maybe men could be banned until it's sorted out properly (if that ever happens.. )

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TrishM80 · 15/02/2026 00:22

Midnights68 · 14/02/2026 21:21

Did you mean to equate stealing goods from shops with the rape and sexual abuse of human children?!

Not equating anything, just exploring the concept of collective punishment.

Anon501178 · 14/02/2026 22:50

Many won't agree on here, as it's probably classed in the 'being precious' or 'overprotective' category 🙄 and it surprises me in RL how many people aren't bothered by it, but I absolutely agree with you!
I would never send my child to a nursery with a male working there, or to a male childminder.I know they are not ALL paedophiles of course, but it's just not worth the risk.I would also never knowingly put any of my kids in a situation where they could be left 1-1 with a male (such as 1-1 music lessons, sports sessions etc)
Teachers at school i see as less risk as they are usually teaching abit older kids so not doing personal care, and are mostly with a larger group of children together. Male TA in reception would bother me though.
I don't agree that kids being older means they would necessarily speak up however....yes they have they technically have the ability to, but sadly many parents still don't chat to their kids about sexual abuse and body autonomy and sadly kids can easily be threatened, coerced or scared into silence by adults.

Rollerbarbie88 · 14/02/2026 22:34

Unfortunately, women are more likely to be stressed from carrying the mental load at home, busy gossiping, or in a peri/meni fog. I would say your children are at far greater risk of neglect at the hands of a distracted woman in a nursery, than SA by a male. I do understand the statistics with regard to pedophiles seeking employment in childcare, but a blanket ban is not the answer. Children escaping settings or being left on trips when in the care of female nursery staff happens ALL THE TIME, and at this point they are fair game for all the evil men, not just the ones with enhanced disclosures!

Parents are able to request that intimate care is only provided by female staff, and have this formally included in your child's care plan, there is no need to set back gender roles 50 years!

florenceandthemac · 14/02/2026 22:20

They’ll just transition, identify as female and work in nurseries that way

titdttlhm · 14/02/2026 22:03

Midnights68 · 14/02/2026 21:53

I think the problem with this ‘if you don’t want your child to be sexually abused at nursery then stay home to look after them’ line of posting is that it’s really just another form of victim blaming. Don’t walk alone at night, don’t wear revealing clothing, don’t put your child in a nursery.

Also - side point, but you do need to take some risks with your children to be semi-decent parent. Sending them to school is a risk.

It's not victim blaming. You should be able to trust people with your children. I just didn't.

School? Didn't do that either. I wasn't subjecting my kids to the harm female teachers inflicted on me. It's had a much more lasting impact than any SA I might have experienced. I didn't have to isolate them to keep them safe either. They've all grown up successful, social and speak highly of their childhoods.

Midnights68 · 14/02/2026 21:53

titdttlhm · 14/02/2026 21:37

There might not be a pattern but any risk is too big when it comes to my children. Hospitals - I stayed with them 24/7. Childcare - I did it myself.

I think the problem with this ‘if you don’t want your child to be sexually abused at nursery then stay home to look after them’ line of posting is that it’s really just another form of victim blaming. Don’t walk alone at night, don’t wear revealing clothing, don’t put your child in a nursery.

Also - side point, but you do need to take some risks with your children to be semi-decent parent. Sending them to school is a risk.

AprilinPortugal · 14/02/2026 21:51

GrethaGreen · 13/02/2026 19:01

I understand the point, but I went to nursery and remember the male nursery workers as my favourites and my children also had wonderful male nursery workers. I also think it’s important especially for my sons to see men in caring roles. So it’s a no from me.

Absolutely. It's very important for our male children to see men in caring roles so they don't think it's just "women's work"

AmandineChamallow · 14/02/2026 21:39

Blushingm · 14/02/2026 21:19

Should there be only make paediatric nurses because all the reports about paediatric nurses killing their patients have been women - Lucy letby , Beverly Allit

None of us are suggesting banning male doctors because of Harold Shipman because it was a rarity, same as Lucy Letby. Male sex abuser nursery workers much less rare, especially as they are 3% of nursery workers

titdttlhm · 14/02/2026 21:37

AmandineChamallow · 14/02/2026 21:34

That's not a specifically female crime and Beverly Allitt and Lucy Letby were 2 cases 25 years apart in the UK in a profession dominated by women. So it doesn't show a pattern.
There have been three cases of male paedophile nursery workers in the news in the UK since November 2025.

There might not be a pattern but any risk is too big when it comes to my children. Hospitals - I stayed with them 24/7. Childcare - I did it myself.

AmandineChamallow · 14/02/2026 21:34

Blushingm · 14/02/2026 21:19

Should there be only make paediatric nurses because all the reports about paediatric nurses killing their patients have been women - Lucy letby , Beverly Allit

That's not a specifically female crime and Beverly Allitt and Lucy Letby were 2 cases 25 years apart in the UK in a profession dominated by women. So it doesn't show a pattern.
There have been three cases of male paedophile nursery workers in the news in the UK since November 2025.

To think male nursery workers should be banned for safety reasons?
sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:27

Sirzy · 14/02/2026 21:05

If you’re downplaying the risk from women then I don’t think you are aware. Your so focused on one form of abuse that your ignoring others.

No, I'm not. You must have missed where I said I won't have my son in nursery because I don't want any risk of harm to come to him.

This thread is about sexual abuse by men in nurseries. It's factual that many men who want to abuse children will seek out employment settings in which they can do so. They're called professional predators.

Also,

To think male nursery workers should be banned for safety reasons?
Midnights68 · 14/02/2026 21:21

TrishM80 · 14/02/2026 21:16

Most shoplifting is committed by women, should we ban women from shops?

Same principle, no?

Did you mean to equate stealing goods from shops with the rape and sexual abuse of human children?!

Blushingm · 14/02/2026 21:19

Should there be only make paediatric nurses because all the reports about paediatric nurses killing their patients have been women - Lucy letby , Beverly Allit

TrishM80 · 14/02/2026 21:16

Most shoplifting is committed by women, should we ban women from shops?

Same principle, no?

Midnights68 · 14/02/2026 21:13

Reflecting on this, and I’ve realised that if you think of positions of trust in our society you’ll also be able to think of at least one example of a man who’s abused that trust to sexually abuse, rape, and/or murder women or children.

Police officer. Teacher. Other school staff, such as school caretaker. Priest. Doctor. Surgeon. Paramedic. Nursery worker/childminder. Sports coach. Children’s entertainer. Celebrity. Aid worker. Taxi driver. Foster carer. Care worker. The list could go on and on.

I do agree with what the OP has said about the particular risks posed to pre-verbal children and providing them with intimate care. But when you zoom out and think about the scale of male abuse of trust in society it becomes quite overwhelming.

titdttlhm · 14/02/2026 21:12

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:04

We are the ones aware of the risk, hence why we don't want random men around our children.

If you really wanted to mitigate all risk to your children, you wouldn't want them around random people (men and women). Even if most are fine, you only need one bad egg. The safest option for your children, assuming your home is a safe place of course, is at home with a parent in the preschool years. That's what I chose, and chose to make work, because I didn't want random people of either sex taking care of my vulnerable young children.

Sirzy · 14/02/2026 21:05

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:04

We are the ones aware of the risk, hence why we don't want random men around our children.

If you’re downplaying the risk from women then I don’t think you are aware. Your so focused on one form of abuse that your ignoring others.

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:04

Sirzy · 14/02/2026 21:03

Anyone who thinks “ban men”’is the answer is downplaying the actual risk of abuse.

We are the ones aware of the risk, hence why we don't want random men around our children.

Sirzy · 14/02/2026 21:03

sharkstale · 14/02/2026 21:00

I haven't downplayed anything.
If anything, those supporting men working in nurseries are the ones downplaying things.

Anyone who thinks “ban men”’is the answer is downplaying the actual risk of abuse.