Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

Let me spell this out very clearly for you. Where are your statistics?? Without those you’re just ranting.

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

Because while it can be acknowledged that most violence is committed by men, women are given too much of a free pass.

if a man kills his children he’s a murdering bastard who deserves to die and rightly so.

if a woman murders her children she must be mentally ill and deserving of sympathy.

a man is an obnoxious prick he’s an obnoxious prick.

a woman must be “peri” menopausal, struggling with the daily grind.

women are raised to believe they need never take personal responsibility.

and yet in every single case where a child is murdered by a stepfather it started with a woman who allowed that man access to children before she even knew him, and 9 times out of ten becomes involved in the abuse. That is a choice.

it’s simple. If women want to be treated as equals they need to stop hiding behind excuses. Because until they do people will bring up the likes of rose west etc, because the rest have been given a get-out in the name of hormones.

we need to just accept that there are good and bad men as well as women.

Have I missed something? I don’t understand this…

The frothing AND outrage over a detail as opposed to the human tragedy itself speaks volumes.

It’s the language reform voters understand.

Because while it can be acknowledged that most violence is committed by men, women are given too much of a free pass.

if a man kills his children he’s a murdering bastard who deserves to die and rightly so.

if a woman murders her children she must be mentally ill and deserving of sympathy.

a man is an obnoxious prick he’s an obnoxious prick.

a woman must be “peri” menopausal, struggling with the daily grind.

women are raised to believe they need never take personal responsibility.

and yet in every single case where a child is murdered by a stepfather it started with a woman who allowed that man access to children before she even knew him, and 9 times out of ten becomes involved in the abuse. That is a choice.

it’s simple. If women want to be treated as equals they need to stop hiding behind excuses. Because until they do people will bring up the likes of rose west etc, because the rest have been given a get-out in the name of hormones.

we need to just accept that there are good and bad men as well as women.

I don’t disagree but what I disagree with is that it’s all men. That is always fundamentally my issue, there’s a big difference between all the crimes and all the men. I don’t think anyone ever sensibly disagrees that these crimes are committed by men, it’s statistically impossible to argue that point.
The crimes in question are overwhelmingly likely to have been committed by a man but that doesn’t mean a man you know or meet is likely to commit one of those crimes.
The government website tells me there were 86,038 males in prison in Nov 2024, google tells me 35% of them have committed a violent crime, which is 30,113.
Using population statistics (UK population, less how many children Unicef says there is in the UK and adjusting then adults to the male proportion) there’s 25,785,146 males. So that means 0.12% of men will be convicted of a violent crime. Assuming a large number of crimes go unreported we can triple that and we get 0.36%.
So my issue is always the all men vs. all crimes point. I don’t even count myself as lucky not to have come across men who commit those crimes because I don’t perceive it as particularly likely. I appreciate many will disagree with me and I’m not looking to get into an argument, it’s just my view.

What I genuinely don’t understand is why some women, when presented with the incontrovertible statistics of male violence and sexual crimes, immediately go to “But what about Myra Hindly?” or “What about my appalling, bullying ex-boss?” rather than “Shit-we’re obviously doing something wrong as a society-where do we go from here?”

Awww because your frothing and outrage is more important than community and frontline services dealing with a tragedy.

Is it "frothing and outrage"when the facts are known?

When it is know that the violent male was and remains male and yet the frontline services continue to pretend he was ever any kind of female?

In that circumstance which part is "frothing" and which part is "outrage"?

Awww because your frothing and outrage is more important than community and frontline services dealing with a tragedy.

I don’t disagree but what I disagree with is that it’s all men. That is always fundamentally my issue, there’s a big difference between all the crimes and all the men. I don’t think anyone ever sensibly disagrees that these crimes are committed by men, it’s statistically impossible to argue that point.
The crimes in question are overwhelmingly likely to have been committed by a man but that doesn’t mean a man you know or meet is likely to commit one of those crimes.
The government website tells me there were 86,038 males in prison in Nov 2024, google tells me 35% of them have committed a violent crime, which is 30,113.
Using population statistics (UK population, less how many children Unicef says there is in the UK and adjusting then adults to the male proportion) there’s 25,785,146 males. So that means 0.12% of men will be convicted of a violent crime. Assuming a large number of crimes go unreported we can triple that and we get 0.36%.
So my issue is always the all men vs. all crimes point. I don’t even count myself as lucky not to have come across men who commit those crimes because I don’t perceive it as particularly likely. I appreciate many will disagree with me and I’m not looking to get into an argument, it’s just my view.

OP, while I do agree with you, YABU because you've just accused the entirety of MN of being 'hard of thinking'.

Well, I certainly do-at least when people in RL persist in the “I’m going to persist in ignoring the facts and asserting that women are actually much more violent and rapey than men are-I know that because I’ve met some horrible women in my time”

Not exactly. As of 2023 data, 74% of people prosecuted for the offense of TV licence evasion are women. It's the offence with the highest proportion of female vs male defendants and accounts for 12% of all female prosecutions. TV licencing put this disparity down to women being more likely to be at home during the day when checks are carried out.

People don't go to prison for TV licence evasion though, they can only be fined...although they can be given a custodial sentence in extreme circumstances for willfully refusing to pay the court ordered fine for the original offence. It's extremely rare though. The data shows a 'zero or near-zero' number of people in prison for the offence of not paying a TV licence fine, male or female.

Shoplifting was the most common indictable (more serious) offence for women, making up 27% of all indictable offense prosecutions. In 2022 it accounted for 36% of women's prison sentences of less than 6 months, vs 13% for men.

Women who murder babies (under 1 year) are often experiencing post partum psychosis