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KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

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rwalker · 14/02/2026 18:41

RichardOnslowRoper · 14/02/2026 18:25

Why are you so concerned about the hurty feelings of my husband and son? Neither are rapists.

But neither are offended if women are wary of them, say in a dark alley or alone in the woods, because how can women tell?

Who cares more about men's delicate feelings than women's safety?

Who said anything about sparing there feelings absolutely no idea where you’ve conjured that up from
I was replying directly to OP original post

RichardOnslowRoper · 14/02/2026 18:25

rwalker · 14/02/2026 18:03

now we’ve established the gender carries out the overwhelming majority of these crimes these crimes
it might be better to find out what % of the individual overall gender are responsible for these offences
otherwise your just stating your husbands , brothers and dads are all violent rapeist

Why are you so concerned about the hurty feelings of my husband and son? Neither are rapists.

But neither are offended if women are wary of them, say in a dark alley or alone in the woods, because how can women tell?

Who cares more about men's delicate feelings than women's safety?

TheMorgenmuffel · 14/02/2026 18:22

rwalker · 14/02/2026 18:03

now we’ve established the gender carries out the overwhelming majority of these crimes these crimes
it might be better to find out what % of the individual overall gender are responsible for these offences
otherwise your just stating your husbands , brothers and dads are all violent rapeist

some of them will be.

Cheese55 · 14/02/2026 18:19

rwalker · 14/02/2026 18:03

now we’ve established the gender carries out the overwhelming majority of these crimes these crimes
it might be better to find out what % of the individual overall gender are responsible for these offences
otherwise your just stating your husbands , brothers and dads are all violent rapeist

The point is we can never tell.

rwalker · 14/02/2026 18:03

now we’ve established the gender carries out the overwhelming majority of these crimes these crimes
it might be better to find out what % of the individual overall gender are responsible for these offences
otherwise your just stating your husbands , brothers and dads are all violent rapeist

AnSolas · 14/02/2026 17:28

chipontheoldtable · 14/02/2026 12:07

Correct, as all the evidence shows.

Yet its mainly men by a massive number.

Ask yourself or do a real life check

How many women (and men) have been subjected to sex offending?

Of which sex were the offenders

How many men (and women) do you know who admit to being sex offenders?

TheMorgenmuffel · 14/02/2026 13:30

EstherGreenwood63 · 14/02/2026 12:50

Lots of menz trolls on this site too so don't assume these 'namalts' are women. Menz trolls are the exactly the type of subpar man to minimize male violence. Yes indeedy.

True.
Who is most scared of and angry about women talking about male violence and not accepting it? Violent males.
Who feels like something spoken about in general terms is an attack on them specifically? No prizes for guessing who!

Imdunfer · 14/02/2026 13:18

chipontheoldtable · 14/02/2026 12:06

My multiplier by 3 was a complete guess and is likely low. I looked at estimated unreported violent crimes and it was lower than a multiplier of 3, which seemed astonishingly low. Even multiplying by 20 only takes it to 2.4%, an overwhelmingly low percentage. As I’ve said, my point is not that men don’t commit these crimes, it’s that it’s a tiny minority that do.

I do agree with you, but sadly it's not a tiny minority of women, or men, who have been affected in some way by that tiny minority of men.

Aluna · 14/02/2026 12:54

AnSolas · 14/02/2026 09:09

Cool
Now do "She was asking for it"

To the tune of “Killing Me Softly”.

EstherGreenwood63 · 14/02/2026 12:50

Lots of menz trolls on this site too so don't assume these 'namalts' are women. Menz trolls are the exactly the type of subpar man to minimize male violence. Yes indeedy.

TheMorgenmuffel · 14/02/2026 12:48

chipontheoldtable · 14/02/2026 12:07

Correct, as all the evidence shows.

Indeed. It shows not all men but almost always men.

Cheese55 · 14/02/2026 12:42

I think people take comfort in thinking there are just a few bad men...and women too of course. Then nothing needs to be done or changed and the patriarchy is not that bad anymore because my boss is a woman.

Thattimenow · 14/02/2026 12:39

KillTheTurkey · 14/02/2026 09:54

Those are stats.

Do you mean that you want a breakdown? I cannot possibly legislate for that, you could be after any micro-perspective.

Google.

Asking for the source of your stats is surely a reasonable question and one, as a teacher, you would no dismiss? @KillTheTurkey

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 14/02/2026 12:09

Personally since online porn has become more mainstream I think this has contributed to men’s treatment of women as lesser beings.

What are the recent stats of crimes against women?

And yes I know these crimes have been committed since the start of time.

Cheese55 · 14/02/2026 12:07

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 14/02/2026 08:24

Because while it can be acknowledged that most violence is committed by men, women are given too much of a free pass.

if a man kills his children he’s a murdering bastard who deserves to die and rightly so.

if a woman murders her children she must be mentally ill and deserving of sympathy.

a man is an obnoxious prick he’s an obnoxious prick.

a woman must be “peri” menopausal, struggling with the daily grind.

women are raised to believe they need never take personal responsibility.

and yet in every single case where a child is murdered by a stepfather it started with a woman who allowed that man access to children before she even knew him, and 9 times out of ten becomes involved in the abuse. That is a choice.

it’s simple. If women want to be treated as equals they need to stop hiding behind excuses. Because until they do people will bring up the likes of rose west etc, because the rest have been given a get-out in the name of hormones.

we need to just accept that there are good and bad men as well as women.

Could it be that because it is rare for women to kill, there is a reason behind it?

chipontheoldtable · 14/02/2026 12:07

AnSolas · 14/02/2026 07:32

Summary NAMALT

Correct, as all the evidence shows.

chipontheoldtable · 14/02/2026 12:06

Imdunfer · 14/02/2026 08:32

I think your reasoning is good but your multiplier for under-reported crimes is way off.

I'm not sure I've ever met any woman who I've had a conversation with who hasn't seen the actions of a violent man in person.

Men very often don't report being hit by a man. Abused women either leave physically abusive men and don't look back, or suffer in silence in their homes. Children generally don't report their own fathers for thumping them. Women don't report rape they know won't result in a conviction due to lack of evidence.

I suspect that rather than multiplying by 3 you should be multiplying by at least 20.

And of course it's not all men, I'm with a 100% non violent man myself, but the fear of violence from men is legitimate and ever present.

Last week I was run into by a young man on a very narrow pathway who deliberately rode a bike at me thinking I would step into the road out of his way. I pushed him into a bush instead, after which he followed me up the road threatening me and circling me on his bike. I'm an older woman and he could see that. He actually said I was lucky I was female or he would have hit me. His reticence might also have had something to do with the fact that I was with a 90kg man of 6ft 2.

My multiplier by 3 was a complete guess and is likely low. I looked at estimated unreported violent crimes and it was lower than a multiplier of 3, which seemed astonishingly low. Even multiplying by 20 only takes it to 2.4%, an overwhelmingly low percentage. As I’ve said, my point is not that men don’t commit these crimes, it’s that it’s a tiny minority that do.

TheMorgenmuffel · 14/02/2026 10:59

CurlewKate · 14/02/2026 06:49

What I genuinely don’t understand is why some women, when presented with the incontrovertible statistics of male violence and sexual crimes, immediately go to “But what about Myra Hindly?” or “What about my appalling, bullying ex-boss?” rather than “Shit-we’re obviously doing something wrong as a society-where do we go from here?”

Crazy, isn't it?

Facts are facts. The statistics speak for themselves.

We all have men in our lives that we love and who are decent people. That doesnt mean that most sexual and violent crimes are not committed by men.

We probably all know or know of some violent or abusive women. That doesn't mean women are as violent and sexually abusive as men or commit those crimes in similar numbers.

When people rush to deflect focus or deny the reality of statistics, there is normally a personal reason in that desperation. What that reason is will vary but it is always there, waiting to be discovered.

Catiette · 14/02/2026 10:49

ToughC00kie · 14/02/2026 07:42

The frothing AND outrage over a detail as opposed to the human tragedy itself speaks volumes.

Hm, I'm not so sure about that.

On the one hand, we have an OP and many posters offering thoughtful, rational and cautiously-worded responses as they seek to understand the potentially dangerous implications of misreporting male crime - ie. to learn from this tragedy. There's clear evidence of concern that we should do what we can to minimise the likelihood of reoccurrence.

On the other hand, we have some emotively worded posts which misrepresent this complex discussion, and coming close to reducing it to ad hominem arguments - "frothing and outrage".

It does seem clear to me which side of this debate is more likely in general to adopt a respectful and empathic tone, and such a tone suggests a genuine desire to look outwards, understand and progress... as opposed to focussing on implicit personal attacks for... what reason? I'm never sure. I do know they come across as being quite angry that this very necessary discussion is even taking place.

Tone and content do, indeed, speak volumes.

AnSolas · 14/02/2026 10:40

Sadcafe · 14/02/2026 09:44

Well yes, but there is still that very small percentage that are female

Since you asked before

Can you please produce your stats?

AnSolas · 14/02/2026 10:38

RichardOnslowRoper · 14/02/2026 09:26

Here you go.. This figure from the Rape Crisis Centre says 91% are men. Either way, it's overwhelmingly men.

And note the 91% number is male and over 18

KillTheTurkey · 14/02/2026 09:54

UncannyFanny · 14/02/2026 09:13

Let me spell this out very clearly for you. Where are your statistics?? Without those you’re just ranting.

Those are stats.

Do you mean that you want a breakdown? I cannot possibly legislate for that, you could be after any micro-perspective.

Google.

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RichardOnslowRoper · 14/02/2026 09:50

Sadcafe · 14/02/2026 09:44

Well yes, but there is still that very small percentage that are female

And? Do we legislate and frame policy for the tiny percentage of violent criminals that are female?

A woman was sexually assaulted at my local Tube the other day. The perpetrator is still at large. Immediately I thought when reading the headline " Well, that must be another woman that did it. Because men always take responsibility".

Sadcafe · 14/02/2026 09:44

Well yes, but there is still that very small percentage that are female

RichardOnslowRoper · 14/02/2026 09:26

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