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Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

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KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 17:09

TempestTost · 13/02/2026 17:07

I was with you on appropriately recording things.

But, no, actually, you can't "assume" that because something is usually true, that it is true in any particular case. That is a serious statistical error and a logical fallacy. You know what they say about assuming.

Exactly, if it is most probably, 90%+ chance a man did x crime, then the correct word to use is “presume” not “assume”

Onelifeonly · 13/02/2026 17:09

But we all know this? It's not a revelation.

The report I heard on the shooting described the perpetrator as wearing a woman's dress. That's not the same as saying they were a woman. I was very surprised that they might be.

Changedname9999 · 13/02/2026 17:08

I’m with you OP you are enraged at the ‘woman in a dress’ who killed so many innocent people in Canada. (Stating the obvious). I am also enraged.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 17:07

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 17:06

Unfortunately, the poster you’ve quoted has chosen to torpedo the thread by unleashing his/her extreme version of pedantry and literal-mindedness all over it. Just report if you see any more posts in this vein.

I have not. I agree with you and have been advising you on stronger, more accurate language you should use if you want people to acknowledge the points you are trying, but failing to get across.

TempestTost · 13/02/2026 17:07

I was with you on appropriately recording things.

But, no, actually, you can't "assume" that because something is usually true, that it is true in any particular case. That is a serious statistical error and a logical fallacy. You know what they say about assuming.

EquinoxQueen · 13/02/2026 17:06

Assuming the first three points are facts (no reason the think otherwise). What is the point of the final paragraph?

in what context are you suggesting these crimes are being recorded as female based when they should be male based?

as others have said if 90% of violent crime is committed by men the other 10% is committed by not men. Are you suggesting that the other 10% should also be attributed to men even if it was committed by a female? Or is this a trans thread and I am totally missing it!?!?

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 17:06

Fgfgfg · 13/02/2026 17:03

S1(1)(a) Sexual Offences Act 2003
To be charged with the offence of rape the law requires the insertion of a penis without consent. Only a man has a penis so, for this particular offence, the offender must be of a specific sex i.e. Male.

Unfortunately, the poster you’ve quoted has chosen to torpedo the thread by unleashing his/her extreme version of pedantry and literal-mindedness all over it. Just report if you see any more posts in this vein.

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 17:05

Fgfgfg · 13/02/2026 17:03

S1(1)(a) Sexual Offences Act 2003
To be charged with the offence of rape the law requires the insertion of a penis without consent. Only a man has a penis so, for this particular offence, the offender must be of a specific sex i.e. Male.

The offender is male, the crime is of no sex. A crime is an idea.
Ideas being concepts rather than creatures have no sex.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:05

IkeaJesusChrist · 13/02/2026 16:56

So if a female shoots up a school, which they have done in the past, it shouldn't be reported as a female perpetrator?

Women don't sexually assault? Tell that to my brother in law who's ex wife sexually assaulted him and is in prison for it.

I get what you are saying but to say that they should never be recorded as females committing those crimes, even if they do commit them is a bit of a reach don't you think?

Not sure my BIL would appreciate it if his wife was recorded as a male perpetrator.

OP didn't say any of that.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 13/02/2026 17:04

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:45

Women don’t commit violent crime, on the whole. Women are in prison for lesser crimes.

I’ve clearly failed to explain this in simple enough terms. Still.

It's the patriarchy. Men have to be favoured. So the non-raping men need praise. 'Not all men!' 'I've got a good one!' 'Pick better men.'

Fgfgfg · 13/02/2026 17:03

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S1(1)(a) Sexual Offences Act 2003
To be charged with the offence of rape the law requires the insertion of a penis without consent. Only a man has a penis so, for this particular offence, the offender must be of a specific sex i.e. Male.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 17:00

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IkeaJesusChrist · 13/02/2026 16:56

So if a female shoots up a school, which they have done in the past, it shouldn't be reported as a female perpetrator?

Women don't sexually assault? Tell that to my brother in law who's ex wife sexually assaulted him and is in prison for it.

I get what you are saying but to say that they should never be recorded as females committing those crimes, even if they do commit them is a bit of a reach don't you think?

Not sure my BIL would appreciate it if his wife was recorded as a male perpetrator.

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:55

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This is pedantry to the point of obtuseness. You’ve missed the point to prove some (unknown, arcane) point of your own. How are we meant to keep women safe if we can’t acknowledge male pattern offending?

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BillieWiper · 13/02/2026 16:53

Yeah I know. I don't know who's saying otherwise?

I don't think legally you can commit rape without using your own penis so all rape is done by men.

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WelcometomyUnderworld · 13/02/2026 16:49

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 16:41

You mean presumed, not assumed.
Also, crimes don’t have a sex.

Well the statistically do.

I, and many others, read the headline a woman had committed a school shooting and raised an eyebrow. The first thing I did after hearing that was google if the perpetrator was trans. There was no reports at that time, but lo and behold - it was not a woman who committed the crime.

There are other crimes that can be equally attributed to women. It’s not 100% and there are exceptions, but they are notable and unusual.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 16:49

Yes, but my husband's lovely!
Also, a nice man fixed my car when it broke down.
Ooh and women are so bitchy! I hate my women co-workers.

Have I got all the usual responses?

popcornandpotatoes · 13/02/2026 16:48

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 16:41

You mean presumed, not assumed.
Also, crimes don’t have a sex.

What does that even mean? Of course crimes have a sex and a huge percentage of crimes are gender based.

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:47

HeartyBlueRobin · 13/02/2026 16:44

If you need a penis to commit rape then surely it would be 100% of rapes are committed by men. Just not all men are rapists.

I referred to rape and sexual assault.

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BlueJuniper94 · 13/02/2026 16:47

What blows my mind is how the same liberal progressive feminists who were "me tooing" a couple of years ago, have now completely abandoned this and mock women who believe women and girls therefore have a right to safety and privacy. You're right, the hard of thinking is strong

LandOfFruitAndNut · 13/02/2026 16:46

I hear what you say but have zero clue why you are saying it

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 16:46

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:42

Yes they do, honestly please stop with the gaslighting. Men rape, men shoot, men commit violent crime.

Hold up now, do you not know the difference between a presumption and an assumption?

Here it is

To assume is to come to a conclusion with zero evidence, usually on the basis of bias or prejudice.

To presume is to come to a conclusion on the basis of factual evidence that indicates the conclusion is the the most probable.

So you must mean presume, not assume.

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 16:45

ThejoyofNC · 13/02/2026 16:44

Maybe we should fill the women's prisons with men then? Seeing as they're just sat there empty.

You know very well she is talking about a specific type of crime. She did not say women dont commit crimes.

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