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To think the way MN lets anti trans extremists hijack a tragedy is pretty despicable

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Blu3Shoes · 13/02/2026 06:34

I’ve read several threads full of hate filled anti trans ideology diatribes with zero thoughts for the victims, Canadians upset asking for some empathy and making it clear they as a nation just need to grieve, anti trans hate speech….

Jumping on a human tragedy to push your extremist agenda whilst MN just sits back and lets it happen on multiple threads is as low as you can get.

One wonders how low MN is going to sink. It’s such an unpleasant place now. I guess all HQ cares about now is getting a good price in the sell off.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 07:39

Guess which sex commits 98% of sex crime and most other violent crime. And “trans women” are members of that sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 07:38

The data has already been posted.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 07:37

Trans identified males are statistically likely to be in prison for sex crimes more than other men and vastly more frequently than women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 07:35

As pp said, violence against women and girls is a massive problem.

TaffetaPhrases · 14/02/2026 07:35

I’m not frothing over an outrage dear; I’m irritated that you think trans women are picked on more than any other group - go and look at your own post. 2-4% would be a dream statistic for a women - 80% of women have suffered some form of sexual or physical violence by a male.

your posts stink of male entitlement as well as idiocy.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 07:34

As discussed, there is no comparison with women because hate crimes against women don’t count, so you can post the biased results of your google search as much as you want. Men are not women.

Blu3Shoes · 14/02/2026 07:29

TaffetaPhrases · 14/02/2026 07:19

I take great offence to your assertion that

“Yes because they’re harassed and experience violence more than other groups”

The onslaught of violence against females is an absolute epidemic which nobody wants to cure. Two women die a week. SEE BELOW AND EDUCATE YOURSELF

Home Office. (2022). Homicide Index data: March 2020- March 2022, England and Wales. This means 1.8 women a week – or 8 a month – are killed by a current or ex-partner in England and Wales.

meanwhile we have a bunch of men wandering around being their best girl self - taking from us the chance to define ourselves - taking from us the chance to protect ourselves - and trying to bully us women who won’t shut up.

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I really couldn’t care less .You can take offence all you like but the fact remains trans people are 2-4% to be the victims of serious crimes with the vast majority having experienced harassment and violence. The way your frothing and outrage takes precedence over a human tragedy speaks volumes.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/hate-crime/context-and-characteristics-hostility-towards-sexual-orientation-and-transgender-identity

Context and characteristics of hostility towards sexual orientation and transgender identity | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/hate-crime/context-and-characteristics-hostility-towards-sexual-orientation-and-transgender-identity

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TaffetaPhrases · 14/02/2026 07:19

I take great offence to your assertion that

“Yes because they’re harassed and experience violence more than other groups”

The onslaught of violence against females is an absolute epidemic which nobody wants to cure. Two women die a week. SEE BELOW AND EDUCATE YOURSELF

Home Office. (2022). Homicide Index data: March 2020- March 2022, England and Wales. This means 1.8 women a week – or 8 a month – are killed by a current or ex-partner in England and Wales.

meanwhile we have a bunch of men wandering around being their best girl self - taking from us the chance to define ourselves - taking from us the chance to protect ourselves - and trying to bully us women who won’t shut up.

Blu3Shoes · 14/02/2026 06:38

HelenaWaiting · 14/02/2026 05:50

They're certainly more likely to report being victims of crime.

Yes because they’re harassed and experience violence more than other groups.

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Helleofabore · 14/02/2026 06:17

Bones101 · 14/02/2026 03:23

I'm a physician and remember reading a thread and 2 accounts were saying they were nurses and basically transphobic. We study these issues in Med school and people will still think trans people are lying. It is appalling.

What do you think that people think people with transgender identities are ‘lying’ about? For instance, do people with transgender identities change sex when they transition?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 06:10

Bones101 · 14/02/2026 03:23

I'm a physician and remember reading a thread and 2 accounts were saying they were nurses and basically transphobic. We study these issues in Med school and people will still think trans people are lying. It is appalling.

What?

HelenaWaiting · 14/02/2026 05:50

Blu3Shoes · 13/02/2026 15:29

Nope there is nothing however there are plenty of links to show that the trans community are more likely to be victims of crime.

They're certainly more likely to report being victims of crime.

TheKeatingFive · 14/02/2026 05:21

Bones101 · 14/02/2026 03:23

I'm a physician and remember reading a thread and 2 accounts were saying they were nurses and basically transphobic. We study these issues in Med school and people will still think trans people are lying. It is appalling.

What exactly do you study at med school?

Bones101 · 14/02/2026 03:23

I'm a physician and remember reading a thread and 2 accounts were saying they were nurses and basically transphobic. We study these issues in Med school and people will still think trans people are lying. It is appalling.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 01:35

Anyway, this is AIBU not FWR.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2026 01:33

TalkingintheDark · 13/02/2026 17:22

What an extraordinary claim.

I’m female and, having the privilege of knowing several of the posters on this thread IRL, can attest that they are too.

And there’s no reason at all to suspect that anyone arguing the pro woman side on this thread is posing as anything they aren’t.

Makes one wonder if this is a yet another case of TRA projection.

It is, the only poster I know is a man posting on this thread is on the TRA side. Yes there are men on FWR but not on this thread that I know of. Silly goady comment.

TalkingintheDark · 13/02/2026 20:31

Hoardasurass · 13/02/2026 18:03

The majority of men who post on fws are TRAs who falsely claim to be gc women and then spout the usual TRA misogynistic bs and blame women. Their post usually start im as gc as the next woman and then spin off into blaming evil terfs for all the ills of the world. It's a well known strategy by certain posters who also like to merail threads and throw squirrels aswell, sort of like certain posters on this thread.
Yes its tiresome but it shows that they have nothing else as their fighting a loosing battle with inadequate amo and everyone can see that now

Spot on.

TheKeatingFive · 13/02/2026 18:11

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 17:34

I think you're struggling to follow along

All just deflection with you isn't it? Why not just answer the question?

Hoardasurass · 13/02/2026 18:03

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 17:36

You mustn't know the men irl then.

Makes one wonder if this is a yet another case of TRA projection.

Nope given I and other women have reduced posting there due to the number of men. Hardly projection or extraordinary when posters have admitted to it either.

The majority of men who post on fws are TRAs who falsely claim to be gc women and then spout the usual TRA misogynistic bs and blame women. Their post usually start im as gc as the next woman and then spin off into blaming evil terfs for all the ills of the world. It's a well known strategy by certain posters who also like to merail threads and throw squirrels aswell, sort of like certain posters on this thread.
Yes its tiresome but it shows that they have nothing else as their fighting a loosing battle with inadequate amo and everyone can see that now

Petrolitis · 13/02/2026 17:44

Blu3Shoes · 13/02/2026 06:55

They clearly couldn’t give two shiny shits about the victims in their eagerness to race in to push their irrelevant hate filled agenda. Canadians have begged them to stop.

I can’t imagine the damage such hate and such a continuous harassing crusade at every opportunity has on the MN of young trans teens.

It’s truly awful and not what MN used to be like.

Of course one can care about the victims whilst being fiercely wedded to the idea that appropriated female identity must not be used to mask male violence.

I thought Charlie Kirk was an utter cunt. A stain on human society. A perpetrator of hate. I still don't believe in murdering people because of their opinions.

Not everything is binary.

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 17:36

TalkingintheDark · 13/02/2026 17:22

What an extraordinary claim.

I’m female and, having the privilege of knowing several of the posters on this thread IRL, can attest that they are too.

And there’s no reason at all to suspect that anyone arguing the pro woman side on this thread is posing as anything they aren’t.

Makes one wonder if this is a yet another case of TRA projection.

You mustn't know the men irl then.

Makes one wonder if this is a yet another case of TRA projection.

Nope given I and other women have reduced posting there due to the number of men. Hardly projection or extraordinary when posters have admitted to it either.

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 17:34

TheKeatingFive · 13/02/2026 17:07

I thought you wanted to get back on topic?

Why not just answer the question I asked?

I think you're struggling to follow along

TalkingintheDark · 13/02/2026 17:22

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 16:47

And yet I know of many more than one! On this thread even. Are you going to get defensive and drawn off topic from arguing for the right to discuss people's murders so ghoulishly soon? 😂

What an extraordinary claim.

I’m female and, having the privilege of knowing several of the posters on this thread IRL, can attest that they are too.

And there’s no reason at all to suspect that anyone arguing the pro woman side on this thread is posing as anything they aren’t.

Makes one wonder if this is a yet another case of TRA projection.

TheIceBear · 13/02/2026 17:18

Jrisix · 13/02/2026 06:45

So many threads on this site where someone will jump in with some barely relevant or tenuously connected anti-trans hate.

I'd call myself gender critical, but I find the hate and vitriol from some users incredibly off-putting.

I’m gender critical. I don’t disagree with people discussing gender critical issues in relation to the Canada shooting. but I find some people try and bring gender critical issues into threads that have absolutely zero to do with the subject . It’s a joke.

TheKeatingFive · 13/02/2026 17:07

Genericfestiveusername · 13/02/2026 17:05

I don't need to get back to anything as I wasn't having a conversation with you that I can recall? 🤔

I thought you wanted to get back on topic?

Why not just answer the question I asked?

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