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An email sent to a news outlet in NZ re: Canadian Shooter

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2021x · 12/02/2026 21:47

I sent this email to a news outlet in NZ when reporting the recent Canadian shooter.

I would be keen to know how many people feel that I am being unreasonable.

I’m writing to seek clarification on Stuff’s editorial guidelines regarding the use of female pronouns to describe a male assailant.

I became confused when reading this article: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360937660/canada-shooting-who-was-shooter-suspect-jesse-van-rootselaar. The use of “her” pronouns, alongside a photo of a male person and references to the shooter’s mother, made it difficult to understand who the “her” in those paragraphs was referring to. Female school shooters are extremely rare and therefore, the pronoun choice stood out and created uncertainty about the factual details of the case.

My understanding is that news reporting should prioritise clarity and factual accuracy- especially for such a tragic event. Using female pronouns to describe someone who is male may suggest an ideological or political framing, which raises concerns for me about impartiality in reporting at Stuff.

I’m aware that raising questions about pronoun usage can sometimes lead to assumptions about a person’s views, resulting in my concerns being dismissed as bigoted rather than considered on their merits. My intention is not to be inflammatory, but to understand why a political stance appears to have been taken in a situation where a neutral approach—such as using the individual’s name or simply “the shooter”—could have avoided confusion and not detracted from the article.

I would appreciate clarification on the editorial reasoning behind this choice.

Stuff

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360937660/canada-shooting-who-was-shooter-suspect-jesse-van-rootselaar.

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Anonycat · 13/02/2026 09:38

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:31

I think there ought to be a trans category for collection of statistics but that we ought to respect people’s pronouns when writing articles about them in the paper which is very different

Why is it different? Unless it’s an opinion piece, surely journalism should be factual. Once a journalist starts altering facts to suit the sensibilities or preferences of the person they’re writing about, their work becomes useless.

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:35

2021x · 13/02/2026 09:34

Thanks for your opinion.
Have a lovely day.

You canvassed opinion…

Now I see you only wanted those that agreed with you, my mistake

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:35

letsallchant · 13/02/2026 09:32

And everyone has a right to be called whatever they want, do they?

With what consequences if someone refuses or does not agree with or respect this 'right?

Everyone has a right to be respected. The article retained journalistic integrity by making it clear early on in the article that the person concerned was a trans female and that’s why the pronouns being used were being used. Nobody was led to believe this was a cis woman shooter.

2021x · 13/02/2026 09:34

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:31

I think there ought to be a trans category for collection of statistics but that we ought to respect people’s pronouns when writing articles about them in the paper which is very different

Thanks for your opinion.
Have a lovely day.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 09:33

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:31

I think there ought to be a trans category for collection of statistics but that we ought to respect people’s pronouns when writing articles about them in the paper which is very different

Why ought we?

letsallchant · 13/02/2026 09:32

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:30

Because we should always respect the rights of others, even those who are evil, or we would live in a lawless state

And everyone has a right to be called whatever they want, do they?

With what consequences if someone refuses or does not agree with or respect this 'right?

Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:31

Anonycat · 13/02/2026 01:19

So do you think that when crime details are collected, it’s right for this crime to count as being committed by a female murderer?

I think there ought to be a trans category for collection of statistics but that we ought to respect people’s pronouns when writing articles about them in the paper which is very different

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 09:31

Why is it a “right” to force people to lie about your sex?

2021x · 13/02/2026 09:31

Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 09:18

Except the headline Stuff used has "shooter" and the name, not gender or sex. As far as I've seen Stuff's reporting has been very clear. Early reports overseas - well, a) there's a lot of chaos in the beginning of these events so facts are often muddled and updated later (eg death roll was revised down), and b) it sounded to me like they weren't sure where the shooter was so wanted people to be aware of someone who - at first glance - would appear to be female. If everyone was looking for a male, that female looking person might then slip the net or kill more people. That's a very brief thought from this morning, I stayed away from most reports because quite frankly I've had enough bad news for one week, and I knew the trans issue would obscure focus on the victims which will be just horrendous for the families. The absolute last thing they need is for their raw losses to be co-opted into a political firestorm right now.

As I reported further down the stuff
article referred to the shooter twice as her before outlining that they were biological male before transitioning.

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Lmnop22 · 13/02/2026 09:30

letsallchant · 12/02/2026 22:41

I guess my question is: why should we respect the pronoun choices of a mass murderer who is now also dead? Literally what is the point?

Because we should always respect the rights of others, even those who are evil, or we would live in a lawless state

Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 09:18

Except the headline Stuff used has "shooter" and the name, not gender or sex. As far as I've seen Stuff's reporting has been very clear. Early reports overseas - well, a) there's a lot of chaos in the beginning of these events so facts are often muddled and updated later (eg death roll was revised down), and b) it sounded to me like they weren't sure where the shooter was so wanted people to be aware of someone who - at first glance - would appear to be female. If everyone was looking for a male, that female looking person might then slip the net or kill more people. That's a very brief thought from this morning, I stayed away from most reports because quite frankly I've had enough bad news for one week, and I knew the trans issue would obscure focus on the victims which will be just horrendous for the families. The absolute last thing they need is for their raw losses to be co-opted into a political firestorm right now.

GeneralPeter · 13/02/2026 08:57

IdentityCris · 13/02/2026 08:30

But you've made it clear you could tell. And indeed the article itself explained the situation fully. So what is the point of the letter?

Let’s say the media started reporting a big spike in crime committed by “foreigners”.

It’s the word used in the headlines, and it’s how the police refer to the suspects.

Later in the articles, it becomes clear that ‘foreigner’ is used for Canada-born citizens too, provided they are non-white or descendents of recent immigrants.

Would you think something had gone wrong?

It’s an unorthodox use of the word, being applied for an ideological reason, that gives a misleading impression. I’d object to it. Would you?

2021x · 13/02/2026 08:55

Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:54

I suppose at least you were polite. I can imagine the reporter has had death threats today from the Brian Tamaki crowd, so a polite query is probably refreshing.

I can imagine they have. We also don’t know if it was the reporter or the editor which is why I asked for the standards.

Between the Trump crowd and the “Trans-Women are Women mob”. This is got way out of hand.

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Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:54

I suppose at least you were polite. I can imagine the reporter has had death threats today from the Brian Tamaki crowd, so a polite query is probably refreshing.

2021x · 13/02/2026 08:51

Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:49

Ah. So you're not at all interested in any opinion other than YANBU. Got it.

Personally I have no skin in the game, I'd prefer the shooter was referred to using male pronouns, but I'm less interested in that than the view of victims families, some of whom have pleaded for people not to focus so much on the shooter. And I'm genuinely mystified as to how the article was confusing, it takes language skills at the level of my 11yr old to decode. Raise the issue of pronouns with Stuff, sure, but it seems disingenuous to express it in terms of confusion.

Thank you for your opinion.

Have a nice day.

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Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:49

Ah. So you're not at all interested in any opinion other than YANBU. Got it.

Personally I have no skin in the game, I'd prefer the shooter was referred to using male pronouns, but I'm less interested in that than the view of victims families, some of whom have pleaded for people not to focus so much on the shooter. And I'm genuinely mystified as to how the article was confusing, it takes language skills at the level of my 11yr old to decode. Raise the issue of pronouns with Stuff, sure, but it seems disingenuous to express it in terms of confusion.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 13/02/2026 08:48

My intention is not to be inflammatory, but to understand why a political stance appears to have been taken in a situation where a neutral approach—such as using the individual’s name or simply “the shooter”—could have avoided confusion and not detracted from the article

I don’t really know why people have such an issue with the OP

she is asking news outlets to report correctly…..and she isn’t even saying that! She doesn’t even want them to use the correct sex. She wants them to use gender neutral language

Economicsday · 13/02/2026 08:45

I found the initial reports of a female shooter shocking. Then the clarification in other outlets really annoyed me further.
By all means say "male shooter identifying as female" but the whole plain "female shooter" irritated the hell out of me.

Those poor families and their children, just awful.

My daughter couldn't see the issue but for me, whilst sadly male mass shootings are common, a female one is not.
The statistics for 2025 in the US bear this out overwhelmingly.

Elizabethandfour · 13/02/2026 08:45

Yanbu. A trans woman is man. You have to be a man to be trans woman. I hate this pronoun bullshit. Some of the news reports called him a female which he never was nor never could be.

2021x · 13/02/2026 08:41

Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:39

Huh. I read that article this morning, thought it explained very clearly and early on that the shooter was born male, identified female. Not at all confusing.

Good to know.

Have a nice day.

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Boppydoodah · 13/02/2026 08:39

Huh. I read that article this morning, thought it explained very clearly and early on that the shooter was born male, identified female. Not at all confusing.

EvangelineTheNightStar · 13/02/2026 08:37

HoskinsChoice · 13/02/2026 08:28

Seriously. Go for a walk. Breathe in the fresh air. Look at the snowdrops and the buds on the trees. Listen to the birdsong. Or just watch a bit of TV or read a book. Anything to take you away from this obsession you've developed. It is incredibly unhealthy. When your obsession has developed to a point that you are writing letters to the media and attempting to justify yourself with long convoluted posts, you've gone too far. Step away or get help. He/she. It really doesn't matter.

Are you saying the same re “obsession” to those who are on here and other aspects of media who are demanding total capitulation that others believe their delusions?
why are they obsessing that others don’t do what they want?

PaterPower · 13/02/2026 08:30

And do we actually know that Statistics Canada will reflect his sex in their data? Or is that an assumption?

Several UK police forces, for instance, were reporting crimes against preferred gender identity until challenged. There’d be no such challenging in Canada (or none that would make any difference).

IdentityCris · 13/02/2026 08:30

2021x · 12/02/2026 23:18

Thank you for your comment.

It is important for me as a female to be able to tell who is male and who isn't.

But you've made it clear you could tell. And indeed the article itself explained the situation fully. So what is the point of the letter?

2021x · 13/02/2026 08:29

HoskinsChoice · 13/02/2026 08:28

Seriously. Go for a walk. Breathe in the fresh air. Look at the snowdrops and the buds on the trees. Listen to the birdsong. Or just watch a bit of TV or read a book. Anything to take you away from this obsession you've developed. It is incredibly unhealthy. When your obsession has developed to a point that you are writing letters to the media and attempting to justify yourself with long convoluted posts, you've gone too far. Step away or get help. He/she. It really doesn't matter.

Thank you for the advice.

Have a nice day.

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