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fartoomuchtoblerone · 12/02/2026 17:38

I’m not creeped out but I’m not surprised to see Reform politicians blaming women for demographic change. Let’s ignore all the elements of the system that are contributing to people having kids later - housing costs, job insecurity, the ridiculously unequal divisions of labour in households with children that many women see and understandably are put off by. What we need is to be lecturing teenage girls telling them to get knocked up for their country, right?

Elle771 · 12/02/2026 17:32

ObsessiveGoogler · 12/02/2026 17:30

Well for a start it's assuming women make decisions about fertility in a vacuum. What about men? What about discussing how they can become supportive and respectful partners so women might want to have children with them earlier? And what about exploring why financially women find it difficult to have children younger due to the cost of housing and childcare and the hit to our careers. Nope - we just need to accept our primary purpose is to breed. And I think everyone knows now that fertility declines with age.

This. Everyone knows about fertility rates but there are lots of very valid reasons women dont have kids younger anymore to the same extent they used to. None of which appear to be something Reform are interested in addressing.

SerendipityJane · 12/02/2026 17:32

Pollqueen · 12/02/2026 17:23

I suppose it's no different to the French govt writing to all 27 year old women urging them to procreate ot freeze their eggs which i think the govt will pay for. May be wrong on that one tho

Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with that either.

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cardibach · 12/02/2026 17:31

Pistachiocake · 12/02/2026 17:29

Agree. Sure, we all know people who have babies in their 40s/beyond (including some of the best parents I've met), but the sad truth is a lot of us have issues at an older age. It is not creepy to point this out.
I actually wish we had a lot more education about our bodies. More info about periods, and problems that shouldn't be ignored. Childbirth, and choice. Peri and menopause might (just recently) have been all over the news, but there was a poster the other day who said her gynae had no interest in HRT-all doctors, and everyone for that matter, should have a working understanding of things that affect half the population. We now talk about mental health-great. Let's talk about physical health, with no stigma about "women's issues".

Did you really not know your fertility had declined a lot by 40? I’m 61 and it was well known when I was in my 20s.

ObsessiveGoogler · 12/02/2026 17:30

LightningMode · 12/02/2026 17:15

I'm not seeing the problem? There is no harm in ointing out to girls and young women that their fertility rates change with age. I was of a generation who were constantly told not to get pregnant, that it would ruin our lives, and then we did start trying, in our thirties, our fertility rates had lessened.

Well for a start it's assuming women make decisions about fertility in a vacuum. What about men? What about discussing how they can become supportive and respectful partners so women might want to have children with them earlier? And what about exploring why financially women find it difficult to have children younger due to the cost of housing and childcare and the hit to our careers. Nope - we just need to accept our primary purpose is to breed. And I think everyone knows now that fertility declines with age.

cardibach · 12/02/2026 17:29

LightningMode · 12/02/2026 17:15

I'm not seeing the problem? There is no harm in ointing out to girls and young women that their fertility rates change with age. I was of a generation who were constantly told not to get pregnant, that it would ruin our lives, and then we did start trying, in our thirties, our fertility rates had lessened.

You think they don’t already learn that in biology? This man’s interest is a bit Kinder, Küche, Kirche
Especially alongside their nonsensical more tax for the childless policy. And their see sawing on the 2 child benefit cap.

Pistachiocake · 12/02/2026 17:29

LightningMode · 12/02/2026 17:15

I'm not seeing the problem? There is no harm in ointing out to girls and young women that their fertility rates change with age. I was of a generation who were constantly told not to get pregnant, that it would ruin our lives, and then we did start trying, in our thirties, our fertility rates had lessened.

Agree. Sure, we all know people who have babies in their 40s/beyond (including some of the best parents I've met), but the sad truth is a lot of us have issues at an older age. It is not creepy to point this out.
I actually wish we had a lot more education about our bodies. More info about periods, and problems that shouldn't be ignored. Childbirth, and choice. Peri and menopause might (just recently) have been all over the news, but there was a poster the other day who said her gynae had no interest in HRT-all doctors, and everyone for that matter, should have a working understanding of things that affect half the population. We now talk about mental health-great. Let's talk about physical health, with no stigma about "women's issues".

LadyCrustybread · 12/02/2026 17:26

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 17:13

What did he actually say?

That universities are now too politically correct because they’re filled with childless women, that a negative child benefits (childlessness tax) should be imposed and that people who agree with trigger warnings and other political correctness have ‘female temprements’ and that British women are having children too late.

Pollqueen · 12/02/2026 17:23

I suppose it's no different to the French govt writing to all 27 year old women urging them to procreate ot freeze their eggs which i think the govt will pay for. May be wrong on that one tho

SerendipityJane · 12/02/2026 17:22

LightningMode · 12/02/2026 17:15

I'm not seeing the problem? There is no harm in ointing out to girls and young women that their fertility rates change with age. I was of a generation who were constantly told not to get pregnant, that it would ruin our lives, and then we did start trying, in our thirties, our fertility rates had lessened.

Could just be me then ? Thread title is a question, not a directive.

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YorkshireGoldie · 12/02/2026 17:21

Taxing women who don’t have babies? What is the real agenda here?

LightningMode · 12/02/2026 17:15

I'm not seeing the problem? There is no harm in ointing out to girls and young women that their fertility rates change with age. I was of a generation who were constantly told not to get pregnant, that it would ruin our lives, and then we did start trying, in our thirties, our fertility rates had lessened.

Conkersinautumn · 12/02/2026 17:15

The human population of earth is too big, it doesn't matter if it shrinks a bit. Politicians banging on about women being solely responsible for reproduction smacks pretty hard of dystopia.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 17:13

What did he actually say?