Depressed that I can’t afford WLIs

No, the hunger is the same afterwards. And you do get used to eating less when on WLI, because you eat less. That’s the mechanism by which you lose weight.

That’s not correct, the hunger is the same as before injections, and if you’re at maintenance you shouldn’t be hungry on a healthy balanced diet,

I understand folks are trying to make the op feel better, but better to keep it accurate.

If you dont work id go swimming most days
Calorie control is also where its at.

I'd love the time to do more meal prep.

Id also look at low impact exercise like walking

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I think the difference is that after “natural” weightloss you don’t experience the same huge hunger afterwards as you’ll be used to eating less
In any case, if weight gain is the same, I’d say save your money!
it’s the cause that needs addressing and not the outcome.

Keep on with the calorie counting. You've already lost a stone which is a great start! Yes, it will slow down the closer you get to a healthy weight and you may need to re-check your TDEE and adjust your calorie intake, but it will work if you keep at it. WLI might make the process easier but the end result will be the same. You can do it!

The rate of weight gain following WLIs injections is broadly the same as the rate of weight gain following any significant weight loss via any weight loss method.

Have a watch of the BBC show What Happens When (it’s on iplayer). It’s the episode about what happens to people when they come off GLP1s. It turns out that it’s not quite the magic bullet everyone was thinking and many people wi have to take them forever.
Try to remedy the problem and not the outcome ie concentrate on why you eat as you do rather than trying to reduce your weight. Once you get to the bottom of it and get some strategies in place, the weight takes care of itself. The weight is just the outcome of the issues you have with food and not the issue itself.
I hope you find what you need.

If it helps, I was in a very similar position to you last year. 5ft7 15st10. Multiple chronic health conditions, on PIP do work part time. Joined team RH. Increased steps gradually. Calories counting with focus on protein and fibre. Today I'm 12st 8. Size 16-18 to 12-14. It does work when you stick to it, as soon as i slack off calorie counting weight loss stalls.

You can do it without the jabs, be better for you long term as you will make sustainable changes to your eating habits

WLI aren't all sunshine and roses.

DH qualifies for them as he's overweight and diabetic - he had horrendous side effects on the lowest dose and had to come off them as they made hmim feel so unwell.

Don't be fooled by all the positive stories on here - while they can clearly be amazing, the majority of people can't afford them!

Yanbu at all to be fed up OP. I very much hope you're able to get access at some point. Good luck with the dieting efforts.

Funnily everyone talks about upping protein but I’m working on upping my fibre and I actually feel full. Might be worth a go?

I have used WLI OP, they worked well and I could just about afford them, but the side effects got too much for me.

I’m mostly keeping it off via calorie counting/ tracking using an app, mine is a paid one called Lose it and it’s fine but I won’t pay again I’ll just get one of the free ones that does the same job.

Prior to WLI I had a lot of success with Slimpod - there’s a cost implication with that too but it’s fractional of what WLI would cost. There’s a thread or two about it on here too. It really really worked for me until one day it just didn’t. There’s absolutely lots of people who have lost the weight and kept it off this way, but there’s others that it doesn’t work for. You can get your money back after a few weeks trial if you don’t think it’s working for you so it’s maybe worth a go - or do some research/ reading around it and see what you think. I’m actually listening to the recordings again now and I think they’re helping me - not like ‘magic’ which is how it felt the first time I tried, but they do seem to help me keep in the right, positive mindset and if nothing else they help me sleep.

It sucks though doesn't it! But it made me miserable. And with calorie counting, as hard as it may be, atleast I'm now not throwing up and feeling like I have a tummy bug every day.

I told my Doctor why I came off them and he said the same as you @DeluluTaylor that many people are now giving them up as the side effects aren't worth it.

@Lovebeingadoredsame!! There’s more of us than you think

I hope this helps you OP, I was on Mounjaro and managed 6 months before throwing in the towel. I was ill on it pretty much every day and it made me so unwell I couldn't keep taking it anymore. I then put on the 2 stone that I'd lost! So trust me they aren't a miracle drug for everyone.

Keep up with calorie counting and have a goal to reach. You've done well so far!

Our monthly grocery spend for a family of 5 is £800. My share is about £180 of that. I’d have to eat nothing for it to remotely made an indent into the cost.

And I only eat the apple and small pack of blueberries daily as lunch dessert

I was like this . Weight loss stalled and calorie deficit didn’t work. I then decided to cut out every single sweet food and sugar except apples and blueberries. I have only savoury food and after 3 months I’d lost 2 stone. My body just can’t handle sugar in any form 1500-1700 calories of savoury food lots of veg etc great if I had the same 1500-1700 with any sugar or sweet foods added I can’t lose weight and gain ??!!

Honestly, if you pay for the jabs you'll probably end up saving a significant proportion of the cost of them by eating less. It might not make them work out 'free' but the cost isn't really the price of the jab. It's the price of the jab minus the amount you would have spent on food that you knock off.

But I'm prob the anomaly here in thinking health absolutely comes first over anything, and that if you can possibly manage to get them you should. Once you're at a healthy weight it's far easier to maintain it than it is to lose it to begin with. I started at BMI 27, got down to BMI 20 and have maintained it for the past six months without using the jabs anymore. Eating at maintenance is easier than eating at a calorie deficit.

Maybe if now isn't possible you can look at more hours or another job to save up? Idk if your LTCs are the type that can be improved by weight loss.

This is what stopped me from going on WLI but recent developments mean GLPs will be available for long-term maintenance and I’m good with that. People take statins, bp tabs for life, this will be no different.

Just keep going as you are doing, it’s slower but you’re still losing weight as well as changing your life style. If you can’t afford it, it’s not advisable to get into debt for this as you’ll simply be replacing one issue with another. My colleague that’s on it can’t afford it but she can’t afford to stop either. Now all she’s complaining about is money. She lost the weight too fast and is not happy with the loose skin either so WLI has not solved everything.
Just know you’re not alone and a large number of the population can’t afford it either so just keep going as you are.

We8ght loss jabs are great on theory but im not sure about long term outcomes. People have to stay on them forever or need significant behavioural therapy to change eating habits to avoid rapid weight gain

I can’t have the injections as I’m a type 1 diabetic. So calorie counting it is, which works as long as you stick with it!

Do you work? If not can you claim UC and or ESA? If you do could you up your hours?

Could you motivate yourself financially to lose weight? Like think of how much you'd lose on WLI in a month, and try and get as close to that as possible without spending money? So you could say you've 'saved £350' as well as lost a few lbs?

If you calculate what you can eat in deficit you will lose weight. And can still eat all foods. It might not be as easy as with WLI but it would give you a lot of self belief.

I was listening to a doctor the other day talking about the downsides. On balance I'd stick with dietary changes and exercise. You're doing well, maybe visit your GP for some guidance.