Depressed that I can’t afford WLIs

You poor thing .. life can be really unfair for people on a low income. Is there any way you can appeal the NHS decision .. is it a weight thing ? If you are just under the criteria I’d be inclined to stop dieting so you can get the drugs. I’ve neither money nor weight problems but from what I’ve seen they are life changing for people if they work. Losing a lot of weight without them is significantly harder

WLI are not a magical cure, you need will power too. Would your refer you to Slimming world for free?

start cooking everything from scratch and really up your vegetables intake. Move more.

Maybe a odd idea but could you do the WLI eating plan without the WLI?
I can't take them but my husband can do I eat the same as him without the WLI
My loss is slower but happening.
High protein.

I understand your frustration; I don’t need to lose weight fortunately but I would like to have the Libre sensor but at £104 per month it’s too expensive.
I’ve had the free trial and was amazed at how much caffeine, cows milk, oat milk and homemade wholemeal bread pushed my blood sugar up.
I have seen adverts for BOLT PHARMACY which suggest their WLI is much cheaper than other suppliers. I’ve not looked into it as I’m not interested in buying any.

If they stop taking tnem and then it is back to like any other diet, what’s your point,

That makes no sense at all, did you even think about it logically? You still need to chose what you put in your mouth, you still need to ensure you’re in a calorie defecit. And no diet is permanent unless you make it so.

I don’t think I’ve ever read anything quite so Ill thought throw.

Yep! just like if I stop taking certain meds, my condition pops back up again. Unless the meds are a cure, surely it’s obvious that the food noise and hunger pre WLI returns. The WLIs aren’t claiming to be something that you take temporarily and the once you’ve lost the weight you’re cured. Anyone I know on them plans to stay on for life, and I totally understand that.

Looking online it says it costs around £25-80 per week, if you can get it for the lower or mid range then wouldn't the excess food that youd no longer be having to buy offset the cost?

Do you seriously not think that obese people don’t know this?

The OP has already sought and been denied NHS help. She knows her family budget. God knows she knows about eating the “right” stuff and so for those who say you will spend less on food, that is rubbish. If we mean nutritious foods.

Compare the cost of some good lean protein with other foods - I know as I’m in calorie deficit but my food bill is higher as I don’t eat sparrow portions and focus on protein and whole foods. Proper 0% calorie Greek yoghurt - you seen the price! I think this spend less has got to be because of reduced snacking, eating out, alcohol, etc.And tiny portions often as hey you’re not hungry! That’s how I could visualise my budget if I went on WLIs.

As for false hope? You serious? I know about the hormones and I absolutely believe it. It makes total sense. But tell me, why highlight false hope when there is NO ALTERNATIVE for many of us to buy these drugs privately? What would you recommend?

As another poster said, your post - though undoubtedly well meaning - was pointless.

You could probably get some significant initial weight loss using WLI at very low net cost.

My weekly food bill is about £30 to £35 a week. A significant saving for me to offset against the cost of the medication.

Yes but it is because (as I understand it ) they act as an appetite suppressant not because it is something as a result of an permanent lifestyle change which they are in control of.

I was directly responding to the comment about them not changing their calorie intake while on WLI, I thought that was obvious? Of course they do, or they wouldn’t lose weight.

Yes and once they stop taking them and the food noise returns,that's when the weight comes back on.

I think thays understandable, and I think if more people were honest, they’d admit envy is behind their feelings. Weight is such an emotional topic, and few people like being fat.

I also applaud you for approaching this thread in a balanced manner, and not throwing out stupid jealous comments about how she will just regain or look old or get struck down by some side effect.

i know it doesn’t help right now, but they will start becoming more accessible, and right now you’re doing a fantastic job and should be proud of yourself.

Of course people change their calorie intake on WLI, how else do you think they’re losing weight?

I think it’s a myth that fat people spend more on food. I got fat through being poor. White bread is always reduced, brown bread isn’t. Shit food is cheap, chicken breasts, salmon, pak Choi isn’t. I don’t even do a weekly shop. I just go to the yellow sticker aisle every day. You imagine some of us have a choice that we don’t actually have. So the choice is less WLI or lifestyle change, it’s stay fat or get fatter/ less healthy.

If your weight loss has slowed, then your calorie deficit has reduced. How much are you eating? Are you logging absolutely everything you eat, weighing if? Every bite, lick, taste? How many calories are you eating and drinking?

Keep going with the calorie counting/burning as you will know where the high calorie/ bad stuff is and will keep the weight reducing and stay off. (worked for me)
Now you have adjusted your lifestyle it is easier to keep to it.
From recent reports WLI are basically appetite suppressants and weight goes back on when they stop as people dont change their basic lifestyle/calorie intake.

Here we go; your friends are anomalies. Your body is not changed and you suddenly gain weight from no where, your hunger remains the same, if someone gains weight rapidly they ate enough to do so.

some of the stuff posted on here is mad. 80 percent of people who diet regain the weight, wli will no doubt be the same, the only difference is, you can restart or stay on for maintainence to endure you never regain.

looking at threads on here people eat healthy diets to lose weight on them. Studies of trial participants showed minimal weight loss at 8kg and fast regain, but real life data now coming out shows weight loss is much more signifant for most users and is staying off, likely as the time to lose it is used to relearn new habits, however due to biological factors l think it will be the same as any other diet, 80 percent will regain it all as obesity is a relapse disease.

no one said wli was a magic bullet that they work when you don’t take them and that you’d be magically slim for life after using them.

The idea is preposterous.

What are the long term health issues that mean you can’t work? Could you do part time remote with UC top up? You would still get your PIP as well?

So what do you want people to suggest for the OP. Do you want us to tell her to get into debt to pay for the jab or should we tell her not to even try because she can be one of the 2/3 that regain? What if she’s the 1/3 that don’t regain?
Your post is the pointless one here. People come and claim you’ll save on food, bla bla but as someone who doesn’t drink alcohol, don’t buy take away, I would have to only drink water for a whole month to save close to £250 on food. Many people can’t afford it and that’s the fact. These people have no choice than to try the things at their disposal WLI’s become more affordable or there are other affordable options.

I have had weightloss surgery, and considered taking wli to lose the last stone or so, but have decided against it , as a lot of people I know who have used them, have lost a great amount of weight, but as soon as they stop them , the weight flies back on faster than before.My DSis put a stone back on in just under a month and lots of my friends say the same, the weight gain is rapid and maintenance dose doesn't work apparently. So even if they work initially, there's no guarantee that once you stop them , you won't gain weight again .