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Why can't women be charged with rape?

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Ourlovelyson · 11/02/2026 20:13

My son attempted to take his life last year. Turns out his partner has been abusive and she was drugging him with Viagra being him aroused and sitting on top of him he kept telling her no but she did what she wanted to do. But rape is defined by the penetrating male, my son is not the person he once was.
I have been on Google for weeks and I can't find anything to help him. He obviously isn't the only one.
Why is this?

OP posts:
FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 13:11

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:09

Since you know rape in same sex relationships is a thing... in prisons... all institutions really...

I think about the victim(s) of this woman, for instance:

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/disgraced-cheerleading-coach-who-abused-33343735?int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

She should have a rape conviction alongside the other charges and should have a lofe sentence..instead she tried to reduce her 10 year term.

You keep presenting me with these stories like I’m not gonna be horrified. Of course I am, though I don’t feel the need to perform for YOU

I think you’re really really confused. I’m not saying female sex offenders shouldn’t be punished because they don’t have a penis. They should be, and are, punished. But it’s not rape. It’s sexual violence and should be taken seriously but it’s not rape.

Like I say if you want to change this talk to your MP. Start a campaign. Support a charity that support male victims of sexual violence. But coming into MN and telling porkies about what I have said will change nothing for nobody

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:10

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ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:09

Since you know rape in same sex relationships is a thing... in prisons... all institutions really...

I think about the victim(s) of this woman, for instance:

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/disgraced-cheerleading-coach-who-abused-33343735?int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

She should have a rape conviction alongside the other charges and should have a lofe sentence..instead she tried to reduce her 10 year term.

Disgraced cheer coach who abused teen fails to cut sentence

The Court of Appeal rejected Rosana Awan's reasons for reducing the sentence, which cited her ADHD diagnosis

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/disgraced-cheerleading-coach-who-abused-33343735?int_campaign=organic&int_medium=display&int_source=taboola

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 13:08

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:05

I am concerned about any rape victim who is forcibly penetrated by something other than a penis or who is forced to commit sex acts, especially penetrative sex acts, on the perpetrator. The sex of the victim or the perpetrator is irrelevant to me, like it is to all balanced and stable humans.

Same. Except I also care about victims forcibly penetrated with a penis.

But I also recognise that being raped with a penis is different because it Carries greater risks and consequences

Never knew it was such a controversial thing to point out

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:05

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 13:03

Yes it does, as it should.
Ghe cat rapists can impregnate women should be recognised

If you’re more concerned about the small number of men assaulted by women go speak to your MP to make life harder for female rape victims then if you want. But talking shite on MN is gonna change anything.

Rape with a penis against a woman has greater risks and worse consequences than other types of penetration. Like sorry you’re butthurt about this and the fact women suffer so much, I guess.

Anyway I’m disengaging, I don’t like liars and misogynists. Ta-ra

I am concerned about any rape victim who is forcibly penetrated by something other than a penis or who is forced to commit sex acts, especially penetrative sex acts, on the perpetrator. The sex of the victim or the perpetrator is irrelevant to me, like it is to all balanced and stable humans.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 13:05

Although I will say this - it’s futile comparing two different crimes. But perhaps see it as a good thing that rapsists get so long in jail rather than moaning about it

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 13:03

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:01

No it really doesnt have any basis on the law and shouldn't. Becauae then women who sre raped and cannot get pregnant by the rapist wil be seen as not as victimised. No sensible person wants that, no matter how much they hate men and excuse female criminals.

Yes it does, as it should.
Ghe cat rapists can impregnate women should be recognised

If you’re more concerned about the small number of men assaulted by women go speak to your MP to make life harder for female rape victims then if you want. But talking shite on MN is gonna change anything.

Rape with a penis against a woman has greater risks and worse consequences than other types of penetration. Like sorry you’re butthurt about this and the fact women suffer so much, I guess.

Anyway I’m disengaging, I don’t like liars and misogynists. Ta-ra

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 13:01

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:59

If you weren’t so busy telling lies maybe you’d see that the risk for women being raped by men is greater than for other groups. That’s not to say that other groups shouldn’t be taken seriously of course or that it’s “better”. But a man doesn’t have to take a pregnancy test when assualted by a woman, and that my MUST be taken into account

No it really doesnt have any basis on the law and shouldn't. Becauae then women who sre raped and cannot get pregnant by the rapist wil be seen as not as victimised. No sensible person wants that, no matter how much they hate men and excuse female criminals.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:59

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:55

I posted it several pages ago. Go back and look for it. It is from the sentencing Council. If.yoh werent so busy trying to type back and read what was posted, you'd see it is true and would have stopped your line of argument then.

If you weren’t so busy telling lies maybe you’d see that the risk for women being raped by men is greater than for other groups. That’s not to say that other groups shouldn’t be taken seriously of course or that it’s “better”. But a man doesn’t have to take a pregnancy test when assualted by a woman, and that my MUST be taken into account

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:58

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:58

I have

It doesn’t say what the average sentence for rape is. Unless you have different results.

It does say 5.5 years for assualt by penetration, as I said in my earlier post.

It does. I posted it earlier. Its 9 years 10 months I think it was.

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:58

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:56

Of course it’s a greater risk!
Women can’t get men pregnant
The fact that some women can’t get pregnant is totally irrelevant - the rapist doesn’t know or care about this.
you think it is worse when it happens to a woman

Why do you keep lying by saying this?? It’s baffling. Or is it because you aren’t winning?

No it is because you are adamant that only men who rape women should be rapists because women can theoretically get pregnant.

That is the foundation of your argument.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:58

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:57

Google

Average sentence for rape UK

Then Google

Average sentence for assault by penetration UK.

You'll come up with something that showed in recent years, the Average sentence for assault by pen was 5.5 years and just under 10 years for rape.

I have

It doesn’t say what the average sentence for rape is. Unless you have different results.

It does say 5.5 years for assualt by penetration, as I said in my earlier post.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:57

You just want men who rape women to get the most extreme sentencing and women who rape anyone to be able to get a lighter sentence

What is it like to be such an unhinged liar?

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:57

Google

Average sentence for rape UK

Then Google

Average sentence for assault by penetration UK.

You'll come up with something that showed in recent years, the Average sentence for assault by pen was 5.5 years and just under 10 years for rape.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:56

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:54

But they aren't necessarily greater risk. You just perceive it that way because you think it is worse when it happens to a woman. We get it. Your views arent concealed or abstract. You just want men who rape women to get the most extreme sentencing and women who rape anyone to be able to get a lighter sentence and not cast as a rapist in the same way as a man because you believe it is less of a violation. You have posted your thoughts many, many times now.

Of course it’s a greater risk!
Women can’t get men pregnant
The fact that some women can’t get pregnant is totally irrelevant - the rapist doesn’t know or care about this.
you think it is worse when it happens to a woman

Why do you keep lying by saying this?? It’s baffling. Or is it because you aren’t winning?

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:55

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:51

Source please

I posted it several pages ago. Go back and look for it. It is from the sentencing Council. If.yoh werent so busy trying to type back and read what was posted, you'd see it is true and would have stopped your line of argument then.

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:54

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:51

Stop making things up - I didn’t say it was more traumatic, I said the potential consequences and the risks were greater.

And what do you mean assualt by penetration isn’t related to forced sex?

Materially, sexual assaults all carry hefty sentences. So what’s the problem?

But it is clear that you want female rape victims to be seen as more harmed than anyone else..we get that.

They have potentially worse consequences yes. You may want to pretend that’s not the case but I don’t.

But they aren't necessarily greater risk. You just perceive it that way because you think it is worse when it happens to a woman. We get it. Your views arent concealed or abstract. You just want men who rape women to get the most extreme sentencing and women who rape anyone to be able to get a lighter sentence and not cast as a rapist in the same way as a man because you believe it is less of a violation. You have posted your thoughts many, many times now.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:51

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:49

I have posted the source many times. Average term for assault by pen is 5.5 years. 10 years for rape.

Source please

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:51

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:49

Yes because it is not relevant to forced sex. It should be any forced sex. I understsnd that you think it is more traumatic to be penetrated with a penis by a man and that any other rape pales in comparison, but that isnt how victims feel when they are raped in other ways.

But it is clear that you want female rape victims to be seen as more harmed than anyone else..we get that.

Stop making things up - I didn’t say it was more traumatic, I said the potential consequences and the risks were greater.

And what do you mean assualt by penetration isn’t related to forced sex?

Materially, sexual assaults all carry hefty sentences. So what’s the problem?

But it is clear that you want female rape victims to be seen as more harmed than anyone else..we get that.

They have potentially worse consequences yes. You may want to pretend that’s not the case but I don’t.

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:49

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:47

What have you based this on?

I have posted the source many times. Average term for assault by pen is 5.5 years. 10 years for rape.

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:49

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 09:12

By saying “let’s include all forced sex” you are getting rid of the “penis” definition.

why do you really want to get rid of that definition?? It’s nothing to say that men will have sentences reduced due to infertile women, because WThats been completely debunked.

And BTW there IS a specific law for forced sex without a penis. It’s called assault by penetration. The charge rate is 10x that of rape; and results in an average of 5.5 years in prison.
Happy now?

Yes because it is not relevant to forced sex. It should be any forced sex. I understsnd that you think it is more traumatic to be penetrated with a penis by a man and that any other rape pales in comparison, but that isnt how victims feel when they are raped in other ways.

But it is clear that you want female rape victims to be seen as more harmed than anyone else..we get that.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 12:47

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:46

Shes likely to half the sentence a convicted rapist would get on average.

What have you based this on?

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:46

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/02/2026 09:38

They do have clear definitions.
There is a number of laws which the OP’s DS’s ex has broken, he won’t be worse off materially if she’s convicted just because it isn’t legally “rape”

Shes likely to half the sentence a convicted rapist would get on average.

ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 12:45

burnoutbabe · 13/02/2026 09:36

All these laws need clear definitions. What is forced sex? You need to define sex then. But then you have to include penetration of x orifices by y items. And still some situations would not be covered by that and have to be sexual assault.

I did earlier. It would cover all nonconsensual oral, vaginal and anal sex. Regardless of whether the victim "gave" or "received".