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Taking 3 year old daughter into Men’s Toilets

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dadtobe22 · 11/02/2026 16:28

I just wanted a sense check here as had a horrible experience earlier.

I’m looking after my 3 year old daughter today. Took her to the zoo this morning and headed to a Toby Carvery for lunch. We were having a lovely day.

On arrival I needed to use the toilet so popped upstairs to the gents and I stood at the end urinal and told my 3 year old daughter to stand next to me by the wall.

A bloke walked in and started huffing and puffing and had a massive pop at me asking if I had “no sense” bringing a little girl into the men’s toilets. I explained I was looking after her on my own today, I couldn’t take her into the women’s and I wasn’t prepared to leave her outside.

At this point he started squaring up to me telling me I was wrong. If I’d stood up to him any further he’d have probably gone for me. I was just thinking about keeping myself and my daughter safe at this point.

I walked away and walked back down towards the restaurant. I go to sit down with my daughter and he makes a menacing bee line for me, raising his voice in the whole restaurant telling me I was wrong and how I’d made him feel uncomfortable. He also started making protestations to staff. He seemed really triggered.

Again I just walked away and took a seat in a quiet corner of the bar away from the main restaurant.

The staff were sympathetic in tone but didn’t offer any explicit support (probably because they were a bit scared of this mad bloke which I
don't blame them for. I think they were just trying to keep the peace).

Was I unreasonable to take my 3 year old daughter into the men’s toilets? I’ve been doing this since she was born and have never had a problem or complaint. I would get it if she was 8 and could wait outside by herself but she’s 3?!

It’s definitely made me re think what I do in the future in this situation.

OP posts:
MuddyPawsIndoors · 11/02/2026 17:49

Were there no cubicles at all?

YANBU though.

Wonderwall23 · 11/02/2026 17:49

How is the bar around fatherhood so low that people assume that a father out alone with his young daughter is a rare enough occurrence that using a disabled toilet can be justified!

randomchap · 11/02/2026 17:48

Cubicle next time. I made the same mistake years ago, but wasn't faced with an angry nutter

Don't use the disabled, you're not disabled. The clue is in the name.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 11/02/2026 17:46

A cubicle may have been a better choice; but men's toilets often only have one or two cubicles, so there may not be one free.

However, contrary to how some women seem to be confused, urinals are against a wall and men use them by standing facing the wall - so unless somebody is really deliberately looking intently (which her dad could easily distract her from, and the men would probably angle themselves away from her view anyway), all you will see is a man's back.

Men don't have urinals as standard because they are all either exhibitionists or simply don't care about privacy when going for a wee; they use them because their biology enables them to easily do so with nothing private showing at all. Effectively, as far as privacy is concerned, a man's back is the equivalent of a cubicle door for a woman.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 11/02/2026 17:45

The only thing you did wrong was not calling the police.

Soontobe60 · 11/02/2026 17:41

Ohthatsabitshit · 11/02/2026 16:44

Nope you were in exactly the right place and can keep taking her till she’s old enough to go into the ladies alone or wait for you outside. Spare a thought for those caring for opposite sex disabled children. As far as I can work out they are not supposed to function out and about at all.

Surely they would be using the disabled toilet?

TessSaysYes · 11/02/2026 17:39

I think you did very well to defuse a situation... when you encountered what sounds like a potentially violent and deranged thug.
Bringing your young child with you to the toilet is just normal.

PashaMinaMio · 11/02/2026 17:36

PrincessHoneysuckle · 11/02/2026 16:40

You should have used a disabled toilet imo.Not appropriate for your daughter to risk seeing random men's nobs.

This ^^
Disabled next time.

stichguru · 11/02/2026 17:36

I would have taken her into a cubicle, but you did nothing wrong. You going into the ladies would have been an issue and wrong and she is too young to go into the ladies by herself.

Newyearsameme26 · 11/02/2026 17:32

I remember being really young and going in the male changing rooms at the swimming baths with my dad. I saw quite a few willys flapping about. It wasn't a big deal. I guess other options are cubicle, leave with member of staff, shout to bloke that your dd is there and you'll only be 30 secs.

lessglittermoremud · 11/02/2026 17:30

I work in a building that has public toilets and because of the range of classes etc on offer we have loads of small people coming in with parents of either gender.
Ive seen Dads in your situation do 3 things

  1. Knock on the door of the gents stick a head around and say they are bringing in their little girl, once inside they use the cubical (4 cubicles and a urinal)
  2. Ask me to check the ladies is empty, take their daughter in and ask me to stand by the door to let any women about to enter know there is a bloke in there with his daughter.
  3. Use the disabled toilet.

Any of the above are all perfectly reasonable, sadly the chap you encountered today was an idiot and if he had children probably never accompanied them to the loo.
If I’m out with my children (all boys) the two older ones (not quite teenagers) use the gents but go in as a pair and I stand outside the door. My youngest who is 6 comes in with me if his brothers aren’t with us or goes in with them into the gents if they are. When DH is with us they obviously all go to the gents…

xOlive · 11/02/2026 17:27

He was a nutter.
You didn’t do anything wrong but I’d suggest taking her into a cubicle to shield her view next time and when leaving the cubicle just take a peak out to check everyone’s decent.

KilkennyCats · 11/02/2026 17:27

Why didn’t you go into a cubicle, op? What made you feel standing your toddler next to a row of urinals was a good idea?
The bloke sounded unnecessarily aggressive but like it or not he had a point. Were you going to leave her standing there while he had a piss??

QuickPeachPoet · 11/02/2026 17:24

I really do feel for dads. They can't do right for doing wrong. My DH had to change our baby on the floor of the men's loo once as there was no disabled toilet and no baby change facility in the men's loos.

Ohthatsabitshit · 11/02/2026 17:23

Sahara123 · 11/02/2026 16:59

But that is what the disabled toilet is actually for ? If my husband is out with our disabled daughter that’s what he’d do .

The disabled toilet isn’t for carers actually though to be honest I know most disabled people are fine with it. Your husband is perhaps lucky he’s not a menstruating fifty year old woman with an adult male person (related or not) to support.

Gabbycat245 · 11/02/2026 17:21

Another vote for a cubicle. But he sounds insane.

ComtesseDeSpair · 11/02/2026 17:15

I’d have taken her into a cubicle, that’s what my dad always did with me. Apart from anything else it’s much easier to keep an eye on her, and she isn’t risking getting in the way of anybody else’s splashing.

Smeegall · 11/02/2026 17:10

You should have gone into a cubicle... That's all. Not a big deal tho

TwilightAb · 11/02/2026 17:03

It's quite ironic that he was concerned about your little girl's safety whilst being aggressive himself and probably the biggest threat in there.

Jhm88 · 11/02/2026 17:03

If it was your only option then fair enough, but agree with posters saying a cubicle is much better.

Heyheyitsanotherday · 11/02/2026 17:02

This is a him issue. Not a you issue

Sahara123 · 11/02/2026 16:59

Ohthatsabitshit · 11/02/2026 16:44

Nope you were in exactly the right place and can keep taking her till she’s old enough to go into the ladies alone or wait for you outside. Spare a thought for those caring for opposite sex disabled children. As far as I can work out they are not supposed to function out and about at all.

But that is what the disabled toilet is actually for ? If my husband is out with our disabled daughter that’s what he’d do .

Sirzy · 11/02/2026 16:58

PrincessHoneysuckle · 11/02/2026 16:56

I mean the risk of her seeing a man's genitals while walking in or out

Much better to risk a disabled person soiling themselves because someone is using the disabled toilet when they don’t need to.

in most places there is ONE toilet anyone with a disability to access (and often it doesn’t even meet the needs of a lot of disabled people) please don’t use it if you don’t need it.

WonderingWanda · 11/02/2026 16:56

He didn't need to feel uncomfortable, he could've just waited for a second. That said if there was a disabled loo available (they normally have the changing table in) dh would've used that to help dd feel less uncomfortable.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 11/02/2026 16:56

Sirzy · 11/02/2026 16:53

There are no risks to going into the toilets with her dad.

The disabled toilets shouldn’t be a go to for everyone.

I mean the risk of her seeing a man's genitals while walking in or out