At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

That would be, if Eresh doesn't mind me interjecting 'Adult, human, female'.

Yeah you did when you used the words 'equally reprehensible'.

Transgender individuals have significant mental health issues. Those mental health issues may well be exacerbated by having to accept that others do not share their beliefs. But it is fact that a very significant percentage of people do not share their beliefs. That does not make the views of others hate speech.

It’s akin to a religion - say Scientology. most of us would say that people are free to believe in the great space pirate god if that’s what they want but they cannot expect the rest of society to also believe that he exists or for us to change our behaviours to accommodate other Scientology beliefs or practices. Scientology is a cult. An extremist religion with very rigid practices which are at odds with the way most of society acts and which impinge on the rights of others (particularly women). Scientology hides behind the “friendly” faces of high profile movies stars such as TC whilst preying on the vulnerable for their own ends (generally cash extraction in the case of that particular cult).

Other cults exist. Ones which prey on the vulnerable for their own ends. Ones which insist on their own version of reality which it might be argued is more bizarre than space pirate gods. Ones which go further than Scientology by insisting that everyone must believe what they believe and change their views and behaviours to accommodate them,

This is not the thread for a deep discussion about trans people in general. It’s a shame that the marketing team has descended. The point was a valid point about the way in which this tragedy was reported. The fact remains that innocent people have lost their lives. The person who did this has severe mental health issues. We cannot keep denying that people who are transgender have a very serious mental health issue (albeit that of course nobody is saying that all transgender people go out and commit acts of appalling violence)

You could just post about the tragedy and the victims yourself, rather than complain about what everyone else is posting about.

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

I have looked at loads of pages of this though not the full thread. Almost every post I read is about the reporting of this person as "female in a dress" and how these are not women's crimes, moving on to more general posts about definitions of women, transgender people as mentally ill, in a cult etc.

Are there any posts that focus on the tragedy and the victims?

I welcome people like @ChickenCooper onto threads like this because they so clearly demonstrate both the falsity and the stupidity of transgenderists.

One wonders if some posters ever stop to consider that the bile, vitriol , hate speech and lack of understanding that the transgender community face on threads such as this escalate MH difficulties and tragedy.

@ChickenCooper mouthing that expressing the view that men can't be women is the same as murdering children so I think we can safely disregard the rest of your views.

@Ereshkigalangcleg what is your definition of a woman? Please educate me

Yesterday you likened women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting, and now you're calling it cultish to acknowledge objective reality, so with all due respect, why should anyone intelligent or decent listen to anything you have to say?

ChickenCooper · Yesterday 10:42
It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.
The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.
The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I see the MN anti trans hate speech activists are crawling out of the woodwork as per usual ,jumping on tragedy to further their cause. Just vile.

devastating to the families

What’s a woman @ChickenCooper

That’s nice dear

Being a lesbian is just a woman sexually attracted to females and not males. Supporting women’s rights is the movement for equality and liberation of the female sex. Being “transgender” means that your stereotyped view of what the opposite sex is means that you think your stereotypes are more important than biological, scientific reality. It’s certainly a quasi religious belief, even when expressed relatively benignly.

The gender critical movement appears to be more of a cult to me

I have so much to learn obviously...

You said it.

Okey dokey, so the trans rights movement is a cult you say, is the women's rights movement also a cult? What about lesbians, are they all in a cult?

Are all transgender people in this cult you speak of, or just some? How do you define who is in and not? I have so much to learn obviously...

I really have lost confidence in the ABC. Everything I read or listen to from them (and I read and/or listen most days ) I take with a grain of salt and check anything that I am keen to know more about. And the beeb.

At least in that article they eventually clarified the shooter was male. But if anyone skimmed they would probably miss that.

Just watching the BBC news. They've made it clear that the suspect was born a biological male, but then have talked about the victims in the family home as being "her" mother and step brother

There is almost no way to secure guns from family members other than having them stored off-site (eg range) with a person controlling access.

@ProfMummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking the polive will no doubt have had pressure on high to not do anything that would been seen to victimise or other this man, despite all the concerns, his being upset or not having what he wanted would be at huge expectations to be avoided at all costs.

Mother and step brother dead, where is his father/step father. Who was the registered gun owner. Why were the guns not better secured.