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ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 08:47

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 08:40

I was hoping to find out more given that the thread is in AIBU, not FWR, and is called "at least 7 dead after school shooting in BC". I thought it might be a news and information focused thread....

I thought it might be a news and information focused thread....

It is. We are discussing why so many news outlets are spreading such overt disinformation.

CraftandGlamour · 12/02/2026 08:46

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:46

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

Do you descirbe all disagreement with your personally held views as hate? That doesn't seem particularly healthy or wise.

ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 08:46

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 08:19

@ThatCyanCat show me where I said I 'think it's hateful to have a word for female people that doesn't include male people and vice versa"? That didn't happen.

I've already quoted your absolutely disgusting post in which you made the equivalence, which doesn't get less disgusting because you're now trying to change the context. Nothing that has been said in this thread is equivalent to mass murder.

I am done with your time wasting and disingenuousness and frankly revolting false equivalences. Your tactics are not new.

Helleofabore · 12/02/2026 08:45

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 08:40

I was hoping to find out more given that the thread is in AIBU, not FWR, and is called "at least 7 dead after school shooting in BC". I thought it might be a news and information focused thread....

The incident has been very widely reported and analysed by media around the world. Why would you attempt to control threads discussing different aspects of the incident and the reporting to suit yourself? You have the internet at your fingertips if you cannot find commentary that you want to engage in. Yet you took to time to post your complaint here.

borntobequiet · 12/02/2026 08:43

SaturdayNext · 12/02/2026 08:40

That's quite a claim, when you look at the massive numbers of murders carried out by non-trans people.

I think you mean “people who do not claim to be trans”.

Most of us are not “non-trans”, in the same way that women are not “non-men”.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 08:40

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 08:40

I was hoping to find out more given that the thread is in AIBU, not FWR, and is called "at least 7 dead after school shooting in BC". I thought it might be a news and information focused thread....

Well, go get the news and information you find and post it here.

SaturdayNext · 12/02/2026 08:40

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That's quite a claim, when you look at the massive numbers of murders carried out by non-trans people.

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 08:40

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:50

You could just post about the tragedy and the victims yourself, rather than complain about what everyone else is posting about.

I was hoping to find out more given that the thread is in AIBU, not FWR, and is called "at least 7 dead after school shooting in BC". I thought it might be a news and information focused thread....

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 08:38

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 08:19

@ThatCyanCat show me where I said I 'think it's hateful to have a word for female people that doesn't include male people and vice versa"? That didn't happen.

Dude this thread is not all about you.

You clearly have come to this without knowing anything about Canada, about what has been going on for the last decade in terms of 'trans' and are up in arms that anyone should want actual facts to be out in public.

There is over a decade's worth of info on the board linked below for you. What we are seeing now is the reality of lying to kids and when ideology meets reality, things often do no go well.

It isn't about 'hatred', if it was then we'd all go home and think 'let them fuck their lives up with puberty blockers and hormones, what do we care'. That is the opposite to what is going on.

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ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 08:19

@ThatCyanCat show me where I said I 'think it's hateful to have a word for female people that doesn't include male people and vice versa"? That didn't happen.

borntobequiet · 12/02/2026 08:11

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:08

I think the writer made the mistake because in their head, trans=victim, always.

Agreed. The writer, like the rest of society, has been groomed or duped into believing this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 08:09

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:08

I think the writer made the mistake because in their head, trans=victim, always.

I agree.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 08:09

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:53

Yeah you did when you used the words 'equally reprehensible'.

Indeed.

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:08

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

That’s clearly a typo/error though

I think the writer made the mistake because in their head, trans=victim, always.

ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 08:07

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:46

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

Even if that were indeed what you were referring to (and it clearly isn't, as you also think it's hateful to have a word for female people that doesn't include male people and vice versa, it still wouldn't be in any way equivalent to a mass shooting.

But this is what you lot have to do. Your entire ideology is based on the lie that men can be women. There is not one single honest, true or decent assertion you can make when such an absolute lie is what the whole thing rests on. Hence your tedious, worn attempts at time wasting now as you go riiiiiiight back to "well what is a woman" as if that hasn't been answered extensively, as if you aren't here precisely because you know it's mainly women and as if you don't know which of your parents is your mother.

Lies, deflection, absurdity, false equivalence and accusation...it's all you've got because you're resting on a lie. You'll notice that we have several GC people on here who did point out the inaccuracy of that particular claim and were not attacked for it either. GC people have dissent, and honesty. Whereas every single person who says men can be women is a liar. And no, changing the definition of words doesn't change reality. It's just Newspeak, another form of lying and silencing

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:06

Chersfrozenface · 12/02/2026 08:05

It's a Freudian slip, is what it is

Well possibly but I suspect it’s time pressured writing and careless editing/checking

Chersfrozenface · 12/02/2026 08:05

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

That’s clearly a typo/error though

It's a Freudian slip, is what it is

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:03

According to the Guardian, the gunman is the victim in all of this.

That’s clearly a typo/error though

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:03

According to the Guardian, the gunman is the victim in all of this.

At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia
Helleofabore · 12/02/2026 08:01

Is this where we need to then further define ‘female’ to the established definition in human terms of being a human that has a body formed around the production of large gametes regardless of whether that body has, is or will produce those gametes?

Because there are some people who are male yet describe themselves as female.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:57

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:57

Called it <fistbumps>

Backatcha 🤜

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.

I agree with your definition

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:57

W0rnout · 12/02/2026 07:21

One wonders if some posters ever stop to consider that the bile, vitriol , hate speech and lack of understanding that the transgender community face on threads such as this escalate MH difficulties and tragedy.

I might have guessed it would be our fault.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.

Called it <fistbumps>

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:11

@Ereshkigalangcleg what is your definition of a woman? Please educate me

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.